0 to 60mph in?

[Junction27]

Im wanting to time how long it takes my car to get from 0 to 60mph.

I have not got access to special equipment.

Can the speedo be classed as accurate at 60mph? (standard size wheels are on)

The gearbox is from a 2000 w 1.4 furio, does it hit 60mph in 2nd gear? what rmp would this be at?

Im going to use a stopwatch and do it on the flatest road possible.

This is purley just out of interest to gauge the affect of mods and im aware it wont be properly accurate.

Thanks for any info.

[mtpagey]

1)Can the speedo be classed as accurate at 60mph? (standard size wheels are on)

2)The gearbox is from a 2000 w 1.4 furio, does it hit 60mph in 2nd gear?

3) what rmp would this be at?

Im going to use a stopwatch and do it on the flatest road possible.

This is purley just out of interest to gauge the affect of mods and im aware it wont be properly accurate.

Thanks for any info.

1) wouldnt class a speedo as accurate personally but its the best you've got

2) wouldnt have thought so but try it before hand and see.

3) If it was to hit 60 in 2nd it wouldnt be far off the limiter i'll bet

so many factors to take into consideration though, weight in the car, windspeed and direction (you'll need to do runs in opposite direction and take an average time), also what car do you have? - *big factor for number 2 above*

[D--R--E--W]

get the stats from the net, chances are it aint goin to be mega far from them tbh

[dispin]

iirc mk1 vtr are 10 and mk2s are 9.5

Also I got mine up to 125 on the speedo which Im sure was wrong

[Cutz]

I have a modded 2001 Furio and 0 - 60mph i have only ever done once and it was 9.53 and i hit the limiter in first by accident.

Cutz

(Mine just touches 60 at limiter in second.)

[Ashleyp]

am i the only one who hasnt seen what car he drives?

no you cant do 60 in 2nd

you may be shit at driving

etc

[Matts-VTR]

Whats the book 0-60 on a VTS then? wouldnt mind knowing :)


matt

[JamesR]

If its standard then just get the times of the internet. If its modified, can always do two runs then get the average as above :)

[de51_Hodgey]

Im wanting to time how long it takes my car to get from 0 to 60mph.

I have not got access to special equipment.

Can the speedo be classed as accurate at 60mph? (standard size wheels are on)

The gearbox is from a 2000 w 1.4 furio, does it hit 60mph in 2nd gear? what rmp would this be at?

Im going to use a stopwatch and do it on the flatest road possible.

This is purley just out of interest to gauge the affect of mods and im aware it wont be properly accurate.

Thanks for any info.


where was you thinkin of doing it?

cause i cant think of anywhere around walsall or near there.

[Cal]

And people wonder why Saxo's carry a chav tag...

EDIT: I think he may actually be taking the piss lol

[hellonpluto]

whats the book 0-60 on a vts then? Wouldnt mind knowing :)


matt

7.6 iirc

[Aly]

I've got an app on my iPhone that says I did 0-60 in 6.02 seconds and it says it's accurate to 0.3 seconds. Still find it hard to believe.

[JamesR]

I've got an app on my iPhone that says I did 0-60 in 6.02 seconds and it says it's accurate to 0.3 seconds. Still find it hard to believe.

I have that app aswell, find it hard to use tbh

[DevilDamo]

Can the speedo be classed as accurate at 60mph? (standard size wheels are on)

No.

gearbox is from a 2000 w 1.4 furio, does it hit 60mph in 2nd gear? what rmp would this be at?

No and it's RPM, not RMP.

Im going to use a stopwatch and do it on the flatest road possible.

So it will not be accurate and how can YOU determine whether a road is flat or not!?! No roads are flat.

Thanks for any info.

Get it done properly? At Trax last year, they timed people on their 0-60 and at Santapod, you get timed on your 1/4 mile. Just find out places where they have the speciailist equipment to do so if you're that concerned about 0.1 of a second... if that.

[Matts-VTR]

7.6 iirc

Thank you and might i say thats a very respectable 0-60 for a 1.6 16v engine :)

for the comparison:

Clio 172: 7.2 ( '172bhp' )
Clio 1.8 16v: 8.0 ( '137bhp')

7.6 is a very respectable time indeed.

matt

[RichM]

am i the only one who hasnt seen what car he drives?

no you cant do 60 in 2nd

you may be shit at driving

etc

+1 tbh.

[hellonpluto]

Thank you and might i say thats a very respectable 0-60 for a 1.6 16v engine :)

for the comparison:

Clio 172: 7.2 ( '172bhp' )
Clio 1.8 16v: 8.0 ( '137bhp')

7.6 is a very respectable time indeed.

matt

It is i cant believe it either! But as your comparison shows its not all about the powaaarrrr BHP that gets you to 60 in a quick time. I bet that clio 1.8 16v is heavy as fuck!

The saxo vts comes in at c. 920kg curb weight.

here is all of them
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring/car-specifications/Citro%EBn/Saxo+(1996-03)/

[Mochachino]

On a furio gearbox:

185/55 R14 tyres with 6250rpm rev limit youll get 55.7mph
195/45 R15 tyres with 6250rpm rev limit youll get 55.5mph

195/45 R15 tyres with 7250rpm rev limit youll get 64.4mph

So yes you will get 60 in second if you have a vts with 15" rims. Or a vtr with raised limiter.

[dispin]

how can YOU determine whether a road is flat or not!?!

Use a vbox mini

http://www.vboxusa.com/performancedrift/vboxmini.php

[D--R--E--W]

saxo vts is 7.2 .....0-60mph

[Phsyco_Paff]

You didnt say witch engine size just that it's a 1.4 box

You wont hit 60 in secound even if it a vts lump with a 1.4 box.

My vts hits 60 in secound at 7500+ RPM with a vts box ftw :hug:

[stiffler69]

I done 70 on clockin my vtr








cammed with raised limiter

[Phsyco_Paff]

I done 70 on clockin my vtr








cammed with raised limiter

what type of cam you running ph5's lol

[stiffler69]

piper bp285 i think not sure now had a video and everything

[Phsyco_Paff]

piper bp285 i think not sure now had a video and everything

That sounds extream for a vtr did you also do a dial coversion

[Ashleyp]

saxo vts is 7.2 .....0-60mph

thats only if your variables are exactly the same as citroens when they did their test.

theres a lot to consider.

just look at the "official" readings for the VTS and 106 GTi. completly different because of different variables

[Mochachino]

You didnt say witch engine size just that it's a 1.4 box

You wont hit 60 in secound even if it a vts lump with a 1.4 box.

My vts hits 60 in secound at 7500+ RPM with a vts box ftw :hug:

With 1.4 box:

195/45 R15 tyres with 7800rpm rev limit 2nd gear = 69.2mph

Vts box:

195/45 R15 tyres with 7800rpm rev limit 2nd gear = 66.2mph

[Phsyco_Paff]

With 1.4 box:

195/45 R15 tyres with 7800rpm rev limit 2nd gear = 69.2mph

Vts box:

195/45 R15 tyres with 7800rpm rev limit 2nd gear = 66.2mph

sounds right tbh

I take it this is from new spec without age and lost horses ;)

[furiomike]

Thank you and might i say thats a very respectable 0-60 for a 1.6 16v engine :)

for the comparison:

Clio 172: 7.2 ( '172bhp' )
Clio 1.8 16v: 8.0 ( '137bhp')

7.6 is a very respectable time indeed.

matt
Makes it look like a bit of a lie, but i'm sure it's all to do with weight. In theory it should take 8.1 seconds in a VTS, but everyone lies.

[Bean]

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/summary.aspx?model=127

hope this helps, probs factory facts though

scott

[Jazz]

saxo vts is 7.2 .....0-60mph

Very optimistic.

Mid/late 7s on a standard VTS with a great launch and decent shifting. About 7.6s/7.7s irrc...

[Mieran]

Isn't the 60-100 time on the VTS something like 14seconds or something?

Thats slow!

[Jazz]

Isn't the 60-100 time on the VTS something like 14seconds or something?

Thats slow!

Yeah its poor, thats the lack of power showing itself up after 60. Up to legal speeds though its a laaaffff lol...

[D--R--E--W]

Very optimistic.

Mid/late 7s on a standard VTS with a great launch and decent shifting. About 7.6s/7.7s irrc...

well for the amount of threads that get started about gti and vts 'whats faster' everyone always says the vts is 7.2 and gti is 8.1 and tbh parkers is alot of shite, it says that the top speed of a vts islike 126mph or close to it when tbh the saxo vts will go off the clock at 140mph

[Ashleyp]

well for the amount of threads that get started about gti and vts 'whats faster' everyone always says the vts is 7.2 and gti is 8.1 and tbh parkers is alot of shite, it says that the top speed of a vts islike 126mph or close to it when tbh the saxo vts will go off the clock at 140mph

i doubt 140 on a standard engine is accurate lol

as i said, so many variables.. it's all pub talk

[Bean]

well for the amount of threads that get started about gti and vts 'whats faster' everyone always says the vts is 7.2 and gti is 8.1 and tbh parkers is alot of shite, it says that the top speed of a vts islike 126mph or close to it when tbh the saxo vts will go off the clock at 140mph

not on public highways i hope:fcuk:

check your speedo to your satnav next time you do :y:

scott

[D--R--E--W]

all i had on my car was a de-cat when i got it and i had it off the clock coming home from leeds with a sat nav on and the sat nav was at 139mph with the needle off the clock, the clocks i know are out by a bit but sat nav are pretty accurate

[Bean]

ah right yea my speedo's about 10 mph out on my saxo compared to my nav, says 136 on the clock but actually doing 125 on the nav

[Mieran]

Pug released those figures for the 106, I don't blame parkers.

[D--R--E--W]

ah right yea my speedo's about 10 mph out on my saxo compared to my nav, says 136 on the clock but actually doing 125 on the nav

when i am at 100 on the clocks the nav says 96

[Heliosphan]

All you can say is that a Vts is "around" 7.5 seconds.

It's no use saying it's this or that because you're basing that on 1 test and every test is different. Also, manufacturer claims are often way out!

A Vts is certainly "capable" of 7.6 seconds because that has been proven.


Does anyone have an actual roadtest of a Vts clocking any less than 7.6?

[D--R--E--W]

someone at trax this year took there ''breather modded saxo'' down the 0-60 test and got a 6.71

[furiomike]

This websites quite good for all this kinda shit http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.asp

[Heliosphan]

someone at trax this year took there ''breather modded saxo'' down the 0-60 test and got a 6.71


Sounds quick :fcuk:


I know Evo magazine achieved 7.6secs but for all we know that could have been done in the pissing down rain.

[D--R--E--W]

that saxo was nothing compared to the speed of some other cars though. iirc an old mk1 escort got 0-60 in something like 2.6 secs

[Ashleyp]

that saxo was nothing compared to the speed of some other cars though. iirc an old mk1 escort got 0-60 in something like 2.6 secs

2.87, the mk3 escort iirc

was immence

the time attack focus did it in 2.64! lol

jp's throttle boddied saxo did arount 6.5 seconds iirc

[Mochachino]

someone at trax this year took there ''breather modded saxo'' down the 0-60 test and got a 6.71

My mates breathed and stripped VTS got 6.3 or 6.4 down there aswell.

[EazyDayz]

My mates GTi does 60 in around 6.9 quite easily, very capable of fast 0 to 60, my Furio is low 9s :oops:

[Lew_C]

8.5-9 secs 2-up with a full tank in my vtr :)

[Junction27]

Thanks for everyones input!

I've got 2 saxos at the mo, a 1.4 furio and a vtr with a 106 engine in but not fully wired yet.

The 1.4 is on standard steel wheels, lowered 35mm apex springs and dampers, has the kam racing/ss race exhaust and backbox which de cats the car. Home built cold air feed and open cone filter.
Rear seats removed, spare wheel, back wiper motor, sound insulation removed apart from the back of the engine.
Soon to have Newman PH1 cam.
The furio is now my daily drive as i like it so much!
It is the car I am most curious about as it feels pretty nippy up to 80mph.

O and on the ECU there is "D'Injection" written, at first glance looks to me as a deisel ecu but am prob wrong?

So basically im going to use a stopwatch and a video camera to record the times. Repeat about 10 times to get an average.
Just found out a friends dad has an old style police speed camera gun, im going to use this to get a better idea of a true 60mph.
Im going to try it on what i percieve to be a flat road and then do it on a slight but obvious uphill stretch of road.

Kind of pointless I know, but the devil makes work for idle hands...

[titchster]

sounds right tbh

I take it this is from new spec without age and lost horses ;)
Even if you've lost horses you'll still hit the limiter at the same speed. ;)


I've got a printout for mine with a 0-60 of 6.62s from York, which i'm quite happy with.:panic:

[Natalie]

thats only if your variables are exactly the same as citroens when they did their test.

theres a lot to consider.

just look at the "official" readings for the VTS and 106 GTi. completly different because of different variables

Yeah wasn't it that peugeot did there's with a full tank of fuel or something? They tweaked a few things to get a slower 0-60 time hence why they are 1 insurance group lower than a VTS.

Thank you and might i say thats a very respectable 0-60 for a 1.6 16v engine

for the comparison:

Clio 172: 7.2 ( '172bhp' )
Clio 1.8 16v: 8.0 ( '137bhp')

7.6 is a very respectable time indeed.

matt

I think that the 0-60 time on a VTS mainly down to its ability to be able to do 60 in second gear so there is no time loss in an extra gear change

[Ashleyp]

Yeah wasn't it that peugeot did there's with a full tank of fuel or something? They tweaked a few things to get a slower 0-60 time hence why they are 1 insurance group lower than a VTS.

I think that the 0-60 time on a VTS mainly down to its ability to be able to do 60 in second gear so there is no time loss in an extra gear change

tis correct, pug used more passengers & more fuel to be slower. although even if you used the same fuel as citroen, times could be out. wind factor, road surface, how level is the road, driver ability etc etc all have to be considerd. 0-60 times dont mean much tbh

and a saxo cant do 60 in 2nd gear lol

[wicked-vtr]

Repeat about 10 times

hope your not too attached to your clutch lol

[Prickle]

first left at Junction27, that should get you there mate. :y:

[Natalie]

and a saxo cant do 60 in 2nd gear lol

A Saxo VTS can!

[titchster]

195/45/15 tyres on a VTS with a 7250 limit (aka completely standard) does 61.5mph in 2nd according to Alex's guide.

[stiffler69]

just buy a evo 4 pick one up for around the same price most people on here are trying to sell their vts for.

0-60 4.8 seconds standard, bang some nice breating mods and a map on their what most already have done and hello low 4's for me its pointless argueing or even talking about 0-60 times in a not so quick car anyway.

the tt 225 i just bought only has a 0-60 time of 6.9 according to audi and it feels a hell of alot quicker than my saxo vts used too. Im guessing they did the test with a full tank of fuel and two passengers because i recon it could easily do the 0-60 in low 6's but i have never attempted timing it.

As said variable are always to be considered.

[deans2k8]

in my vtr i get 63 in 2nd and thats redlining

[Ashleyp]

in my vtr i get 63 in 2nd and thats redlining

lol...

195/45/15 tyres on a VTS with a 7250 limit (aka completely standard) does 61.5mph in 2nd according to Alex's guide.

in the real world youd change gear at 6600 rpm if driving hard ;) unless just testing 0-60 times

[titchster]

Doesn't change the fact that it can do it though, does it. ;) :p

[Matts-VTR]

Yeah wasn't it that peugeot did there's with a full tank of fuel or something? They tweaked a few things to get a slower 0-60 time hence why they are 1 insurance group lower than a VTS.



I think that the 0-60 time on a VTS mainly down to its ability to be able to do 60 in second gear so there is no time loss in an extra gear change

Tbf The clio 1.8 16v is alot faster than a VTS to 60 and with the extra grunt it carries on quicker same as the 172 but i find that has traction problems 0-60 :)

Either which way i know a vts sets a very respectable time for a small engined car.

matt

[JamesR]

Saxos = Low weight ftw :D