Hi Everyone, First Post Here and a Problem with Car :(

[Amy88]

Hi Everyone!!!!

My name is Amy and i have recently passed my test (few days ago!) I have a 1998 Citroen Saxo Scandal and love it!!!!

Slight problem though is that the immobiliser (standard key with transponder not keycode) keeps kicking in intermitently, and of course and the moment you least want it to happen!

Is there anyway to disconnect this? Bypass it, or something? Someone i know says that they can replace the ignition coil for me and that would do the job?

Im posting this in the problems forum as well, but thought i would add it here as it is my official first post :)

Thanks

Amy
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[J222JRA]

Hi Amy....welcome to Saxperience.

Im sure the problems and queries section will help you with your problem.

James

[wardy123]

welcome amy!!!!!!!!

[AlexR]

Hi!

The immobiliser shouldn't kick in when you're driving, it is only supposed to be active when turning the ignition on before starting.

If you remove the immobiliser black box(small box under dashboard next to fuse box) while the engine is running, it permanently disables it.

[Amy88]

Hi!

The immobiliser shouldn't kick in when you're driving, it is only supposed to be active when turning the ignition on before starting.

If you remove the immobiliser black box(small box under dashboard next to fuse box) while the engine is running, it permanently disables it.

Hi Alex,

It doesnt kick in whilst driving but when i try to start the car. (I have found that its on cold and mainly wet mornings)

So when you say disable the immobiliser. Is it literally a case of unpluging the box under the dash? (I havent looked for it as i didnt know what to look for, first car and all :oops:)

And i have to do it whilst the engine is running?

Silly question but, it wont just stop the and permanently immobilise the car will it?

Thankyou again for helping me :)

Amy
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[ukgaz]

Hi Amy,

Welcome to the nut house!

If you wish to disable your immobiliser you can look here http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224599 obviously down to own risk!

You said about it "kicking in" Do you mean whilst you're driving it the light flashes now and again?

[Petee]

Hi amy :)

[Amy88]

Hi Amy,

Welcome to the nut house!

If you wish to disable your immobiliser you can look here http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224599 obviously down to own risk!

You said about it "kicking in" Do you mean whilst you're driving it the light flashes now and again?


Hi Gaz,

Sorry dont think i have explained myself very well :oops: .

It doesnt kick in whilst driving, only when i try to start the car. Took me half an hour to get out of work car park yesterday as ithe immobiliser kept coming on. :wall:

Thankyou for the link, i have no idea what immobiliser I have without looking at all the documentation or at the box itself.

Ill have a look afterwork tonight and hope that it works. It wont cause any long term damage to the car though will it? Or invalidate my insurance?

Thanks again everyone, your all being wonderfully helpful!!!!

Amy
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[ukgaz]

Hello Amy,

Yes it will invalidate your insurance if you declared you have it on there. When you start up the car do you turn it straight away of, turn it 3/4, hear some sort of whiring noise, let it stop then start the car?

Also might be worth disconnecting the battery for 24 hours for the ECU to reset as this can help.

[Amy88]

Hello Amy,

Yes it will invalidate your insurance if you declared you have it on there. When you start up the car do you turn it straight away of, turn it 3/4, hear some sort of whiring noise, let it stop then start the car?

Also might be worth disconnecting the battery for 24 hours for the ECU to reset as this can help.


Hi Gaz,

I turn it so that the electrics come on (the immobiliser light then flashes) then when i turn it fully the engine trys but it wont turn over. The guide you gave me looks really helpful. Im going to have a look at it afterwork and try to sort it out.

Thanks again to everyone, you have all been really helpful!!!

Amy
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[Tontsy]

hi amy!

welcome!
Scandals FTW! . . . pics please...oh and of the car :y:

[BazzaC]

Hello Amy, Welcome to Sax-P :D

[Paul]

Might sound stupid, but try cleaning your key.

Had a simular issue with one of my previous cars, a quick clean of the key and it worked perfectly from then on.

[Amy88]

Ok got home from work, and removed the panel that is pretty much under the glove box.

I found a large fuse board but inside and to the left i found what i think to be it. I have taken a photo of each but have no idea how to post photos on here.

Erm...could someone help will that too? ha ha.

(Ever get the feeling your useless ha ha ha)

[Tontsy]

put the photo on to a hosting site such as Photobucket... copy and paste the URL code into the comment box :)

[Amy88]

Ok,

This is the first one, this is the fuse board:

<a href="http://s885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/?action=view&current=FuseBoard.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/FuseBoard.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

And this is what i think is the immobiliser (the blue thingy) :

<a href="http://s885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/?action=view&current=Immobiliser.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/Immobiliser.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Small caveat.....bet i have somehow done this wrong ha ha ha

[Amy88]

See ha ha.

Ok here goes again:

Immobiliser

http://s885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/?action=view&current=Immobiliser.jpg&newest=1

Fuse board:

http://s885.photobucket.com/albums/ac57/bassplayingmonkey/?action=view&current=FuseBoard.jpg&newest=1

[Amy88]

So does this help anyone? :)

and thank you all again

Amy
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[mickyfinn]

hi any welcome to sax p :)

[Amy88]

Hi Micky!

Thanks for the welcome.

Sorry to ask again, but has anyone looked at the links i provided?

Amy
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[Davo106]

The orange wire looks like a seatbelt pretensioner wire which is wierd for it to be up there...

Thats not the imobiliser though... Check behind the fuseboard, Thats where mine was.

[ukgaz]

The immobiliser should be just to the right of the fuse box.

[Amy88]

Thanks guys,

Sorry for the late reply, i have been recovering from new years ha ha!

Right I think i know which one it is now, im going to attempt to remove it tomorrow morning.

So just to double check:

Start the engine.
Follow the guide that your wonderful people have supplied (i printed it out :) )
turn off the engine, leave for a while and then restart with all extremities crossed!!!!

Wish me luck everyone!!!!!!

Amy
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[mickyfinn]

good luck :)

[sexylittleass]

Good luck & welcome :)

[joka456]

welcome

[BambiHan]

I had this exact same problem with my car, took us ages to work out what was actually wrong. Had to disable the immobiliser in the end.

[mozzy]

Hi amy the blue plug you showed in your first photo is from the wiring of your airbag and seat belt pre-tensioners so dont unplug that. ive had the same problem with my car and it was caused by a bad earth. try checking your 2 earth point on top of your gear box there easy to get to ones a big think black wire and ones a small green wire both just bolt to the outside of the gearbox. check there tight and then were go from there. hope this helps. james

[Amy88]

Hey everyone,

IT WORKED!!!! YAY YAY YAY!!!! It was removed this morning by my boyfriend (doesnt drive so completely at a loss like me) and it started everytime without a problem!!!!!!!

WHOOP WHOOP!

Thankyou so much everyone! :) :) :)

Amy
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[wa11y]

did you sort it out then ?
welcome to sax-p aswell

[ukgaz]

Glad to hear the good news, now you got that sorted, get posting on rest of the forum !

[-NVY-]

Welcome to sax-p! Well done on fixing your car!

[SimonsSaxo]

welcome to sax p hun x

[wa11y]

hi amy good luck with the car .