smoke from starter motor???

[saxo_furio2000]

i recently tried to start my car in the cold weather and i was turning it over for say 5 minites with no success.

i tried again and bit of smoke came from back of my engine, later to find that the starter motor was really hot! now the battery is dead so i changed this for a new one. even with the new battery the car just doesnt want to crank the car quick enough for it to fire. would this maybe be a burnt out starter motor??
or maybe burnt out some wires going to the starter motor?
wanted to try find the source so i know if i should order another starter:)
thanks
wayne

[grumpypants]

Definetly sounds as though your starter motor is on its way out. The only wires going to the starter are the live from the battery (the thick wire) and the wire from the ignition switch (the thin one). The brushes may be very worn and the brass connectors touching the commutator sparking and producing the smoke. Only stripping the motor down will reveal the real extent of the condition of the starter motor.

[Railroader]

i recently tried to start my car in the cold weather and i was turning it over for say 5 minites with no success.

i tried again and bit of smoke came from back of my engine, later to find that the starter motor was really hot! now the battery is dead so i changed this for a new one. even with the new battery the car just doesnt want to crank the car quick enough for it to fire. would this maybe be a burnt out starter motor??
or maybe burnt out some wires going to the starter motor?
wanted to try find the source so i know if i should order another starter:)
thanks
wayne

If it doesnt start in a few seconds there is a reason why it doesnt start. Keep cranking it for 5 mins is pointless and will just knacker your starter motor and flatten your battery, as it has done. Sorry if it sounds obvious to some.

[KrisB]

Sounds like smoke coming from your battery cables to be honest, they got hot when cranking for prolonged periods of time.

[Meto]

You shouldnt crank the car for more than say 20 seconds at a time as it will quickly ruin the starter motor so its possible the smoke was from the starter motor.

[saxo_furio2000]

If it doesnt start in a few seconds there is a reason why it doesnt start. Keep cranking it for 5 mins is pointless and will just knacker your starter motor and flatten your battery, as it has done. Sorry if it sounds obvious to some.

the reason i tried to get it started was i had my wideband setup the day before and me and andy had to tinker with the cold start. this is why it didnt start.
i didnt continuasly crank it for 5 , there were breaks in between. it was very late and i was getting very cold lol
after bumping the car the next day me and andy have tinkered with the cold start so with a new starter it should do the trick.