roads being gritted??

[1-1dicky]

am i the only one that thinks this country is pathetic? especially the government! none of the roads are grittet at all, and nobody seems to know how to drive on snow! ended up abandoning car today to walk to were i wanted as people were blocking road!

[jamieross]

thats because theres no grit anywhere?

the borders has no grit at all just now, every school and college is closed, buses are stopped, and no one can get to work

[Ryan]

The worrying thing is it comes down to money and not a grit shortage as some people believe.

They wont pay the haulage companies good £££ and there are ques at gritting depots etc... because the councils wont buy it till they absolutely need it

[Chloeex]

i agree in a way, some areas like mine, had a tiny bit of snow but everything came to a standstill.. really wasnt needed, the roads were fine, just people need to learn how to drive properly

[Predator_R32]

should be sunny by the end of the week

goverment give salt to each council to last 6 days but there using a lot of it tbh, and the salt being delivered cant get through

best to just stay in tbh, go to work if you can but if you cant ring in, they know about it and wont question you

should be gone by weekend apparently

[smiith]

We have a mine just outside town, we arnt short of it :)

Stop been a fanny and drive in snow

[Viper]

England doesn't get enough snow like this to warrant spending much on equipment for dealing with this snow, as it just wont get used enough!

[stiffler69]

haha been driving a few years and half of sax-p think they are experts driving in snow.

You hit one bad patch of snow covering black ice and its lights out anyone can be caught with their panse down even the most experienced drivers

But hey some sax-p members are the bomb in snow hey they can drive normal

Do me a fcking favour and grow up people who have been driving 30 years are struggling with the snow and ice and people are dyeing out their

You cant tell me some sax-p punk is a top driver in the snow its unpredictable and hits at anytime and you wont always be prepared for it thats why the country comes to a stand still ot because they dont know how to drive in it because they are level headed and understand and appreciate the problem it causes, i suppose common sense and experience helps them understand the logic in taking their time in these conditions

[Predator_R32]

i learned to drive in the snow on about 6 lessons and did pass plus in it, only expierience i have, im not the best in the snow, nobody is but i know how to control the car and pull away, down to the tyres and driver at the end of the day and Eagle F1s on a FWD car arent good for it so i just sit my arse in and let the world go by

[stiffler69]

i learned to drive in the snow on about 6 lessons and did pass plus in it, only expierience i have, im not the best in the snow, nobody is but i know how to control the car and pull away, down to the tyres at the end of the day and Eagle F1s arent good for it

Yeah im not directing that at everyone im just saying its unpredictable and its not something somone can turn around and say england is stupid cause they cant handle some snow, thats not the case here you might know how to drive in it, that still wont help the fact that their maybe some black ice under the snow that will cause your car to veer off or spin its uncontrollable and even if you were doing everything correct it could still happen, thats the point im trying to get across here its happens to the very best drivers and thats why people take their time with it not because they dont know how to drive because the slower you are going to easier you can control the unexspected

[1-1dicky]

yh were not saying were the best drivers were saying theres some right tw*ts out there! i saw something today which started me off, a women driving very fast towards a downhill slope doing about 50 then gained tones of speed going down the hill, when her car went sideways spun numerous of time ended up through a fence in a field then you cant say people with 30 years or more experiance are capable of driving can you?

[shooorn94]

I mininterpreted you at first stiffler thinking you were stating that we all should not bother driving in snow because of what can happen as a result of not expecting the unexpected... but I agree with "thats why people take their time with it not because they dont know how to drive because the slower you are going to easier you can control the unexspected" Take your time in the snow and imo you'll be fine. On ice aka unused roads I do no more than 10mph personally, even at that speed it's enough to damage a wheel/wishbone/harm a child if you were to lock up and hit something.

On the subject of gritters where I'm from they stopped gritting around 7pm tonight, will continue again a bit later and again before the morning rush. But they're trying to break up the spreading as it's just a waste otherwise, which they found in december.

[1-1dicky]

i agree with shooorn94, all we was saying is there are some bloody idiots out there escpecially in there 4x4s btw i LOVE your car shooorn94, think its very sweet :P

[Predator_R32]

oh yeah of course i always go slow in this weather to hell if someone gets up my rear, if they cant brake in time its there fault and ill have a claim for whiplash thanks very much

i dirve in third gear at about 10 mph in a 30 zone, if people read the highway code or there manual it gives you tips on snow driving ;)

[Ryan]

most people try and drive in first still in the snow, its commical and often women doing it.

These are the tards who make the conditions worse for everyone else.

[craigy_87]

haha been driving a few years and half of sax-p think they are experts driving in snow.

You hit one bad patch of snow covering black ice and its lights out anyone can be caught with their panse down even the most experienced drivers

But hey some sax-p members are the bomb in snow hey they can drive normal

Do me a fcking favour and grow up people who have been driving 30 years are struggling with the snow and ice and people are dyeing out their

You cant tell me some sax-p punk is a top driver in the snow its unpredictable and hits at anytime and you wont always be prepared for it thats why the country comes to a stand still ot because they dont know how to drive in it because they are level headed and understand and appreciate the problem it causes, i suppose common sense and experience helps them understand the logic in taking their time in these conditions

lol second i saw your name i expected a post like this

[nicole_]

i passed my test yesterday, dont think im gunna be out driving for a while lol,

[1-1dicky]

iv been driving in it im finding my steelies are better than the wider alloys? amyone agree??

[Viper]

to be honest though, people driving too slow is just as bad. You get no heat transferred into the roads, so it takes much longer for them to thaw out!

[1-1dicky]

agreed, only thing i can say about that one is where there has been alot of traffic the roads seem to be better than where there isnt any, mabey the heat of engines are thawing them out jsut as good?? im no science expert though so i dont have a clue whats best

[AXracing]

am i the only one that thinks this country is pathetic? especially the government! none of the roads are grittet at all, and nobody seems to know how to drive on snow! ended up abandoning car today to walk to were i wanted as people were blocking road!

Its more to do with how unprepared the public is and not the government. In most country that get snow people get trained to drive in conditions far worse than what we are having and have to prove it as part of there test. They also know they should have sensible winter tyres on there car along with a few essentials to get you unstuck if you do get stuck. Yet as its something that's never mentioned in the UK and not part of the driving test it's not something most UK drivers would even think about having to know.

[Viper]

agreed, only thing i can say about that one is where there has been alot of traffic the roads seem to be better than where there isnt any, mabey the heat of engines are thawing them out jsut as good?? im no science expert though so i dont have a clue whats best

lol

its the heat in the tyres that does it mainly

[Predator_R32]

thats why we have snow ploughs/gritters tom :p

[AXracing]

thats why we have snow ploughs/gritters tom :p

lol very true, I just wish they would come round here. They still have not done the roads by me since it first started to snow. I dont think they like me :wink:

[Viper]

thats why we have snow ploughs/gritters tom :p

only on main roads, and when they actually get there.

e.g when iw as coming back to York from Newcastle when it had started snowing, the whole A19 was white. people going way too slow, so it just kept laying and getting thicker

[Predator_R32]

thing is when it rains its washing grit away so its not doing any help, same here north east is getting really bad and seems to be getting worse, bad times and freak weather

lot of cars havent got a decent diff, saxo is one, my sisters mini is fine in the snow, soon as you start going fast and start to spin you back off simple as, no point in going too fast or youll find yourself in a ditch when you hit that unseen patch of ice

[gti180craig]

i work for my local council and ive spent the entire morning grittiing all the closes with a shovel off the back of a flat bed transit im fooked lol but as said there is a shortage of grit just my van alone has got thru 3 ton of grit so far and still got the afternoon to go im trying boys lol

[-GG-]

thats why we have snow ploughs/gritters tom :p

What are these thing's you speak of...:homme:

[craig180]

to be honest though, people driving too slow is just as bad. You get no heat transferred into the roads, so it takes much longer for them to thaw out!

I wasn't expecting such a retarded comment from you tbh :p

The only way to drive in snow is slowly and carefully, unless you can see a long uphill straight in which case you need the forward momentum to get up there.

Regardless of certain peoples comments, some people are just more competent and capable of driving in challenging conditions. I've been driving all xmas and right up to now, even when it's been tipping it down on top of fresh snow/ice and not managed to get stuck once.

It's all about journey and route planning ;)

[-GG-]

I wasn't expecting such a retarded comment from you tbh :p

The only way to drive in snow is slowly and carefully, unless you can see a long uphill straight in which case you need the forward momentum to get up there.

Regardless of certain peoples comments, some people are just more competent and capable of driving in challenging conditions. I've been driving all xmas and right up to now, even when it's been tipping it down on top of fresh snow/ice and not managed to get stuck once.

It's all about journey and route planning ;)

To be fair though,
if someone's in a 4x4 and they stop/slow right down in front of you on a hill, to let someone past, They forget that i'm in a sh*t saxo and can't get started again!

[craig180]

To be fair though,
if someone's in a 4x4 and they stop/slow right down in front of you on a hill, to let someone past, They forget that i'm in a sh*t saxo and can't get started again!

tbf I've pwned some stuck "4x4"s already this year in a crappy 1.4 Citroen C4 and my VTR.

Observation is the key and leaving enough space to perform your manouvres, which you have already pre-empted

[-GG-]

tbf I've pwned some stuck "4x4"s already this year in a crappy 1.4 Citroen C4 and my VTR.

Observation is the key and leaving enough space to perform your manouvres, which you have already pre-empted

I'l keep this in mind next time :geek:

[_Dan77_]

....you look at this as a bad thing, up here the council have put soo much grit on the roads they have had to borrow grit from elsewhere.. but wait they have finally run out, so now their now using stonechips.. :wall: i think im gonna have to book in for a re-spray for when all the snow disappears.

yet theres still ones to crash

http://www.orcadian.co.uk/archive/2009/ambulance.jpg

Pray Image works**

[AXracing]

The only way to drive in snow is slowly and carefully, unless you can see a long uphill straight in which case you need the forward momentum to get up there.

This is the issue we are having round here. A lot of people are driving far to slow and simply getting stuck. Countless cars I have had to go give a push or even dig out. Its just because the drivers are not used to driving in such conditions. Yet all the big crashes are the people that are driving to fast. So your still better to go to slow than to fast if you not confident.

[Phsyco_Paff]

I work for the council and i have been gritting all week (not my usual work) but hey it pays the bills.

Anyway the reason the roads aint being gritted is because we are in a recession meaning that the council's have no money to buy the salt needed to grit the roads and what they had left over from last year has now run out.

My council has to make 13 million in cuts in 2010 to 2011 calender year witch means redundunce's and yes no grit so suck it up pussy.

[Predator_R32]

cant get over vipers comment lol, drive fast lol

its the grit picked up on the tyres that helps aid the melting of the ice on b roads and ungritted roads tbh

[fastswat4949]

im right out in the country and the roads seem well gritted. i was suprised to see how many roads actually got gritted especially around the towns and villages.

[kingkurt]

am i the only one that thinks this country is pathetic? especially the government! none of the roads are grittet at all, and nobody seems to know how to drive on snow! ended up abandoning car today to walk to were i wanted as people were blocking road!

Join the facebook page mate --->


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=209706797687

>K<

[craig180]

Spare a thought for our grandparents and parents back in 1963:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8446942.stm

[Viper]

im not saying drive fast at all.

just saying dont drive TOO slowly otherwise it will never clear

[hellonpluto]

Join the facebook page mate --->


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=209706797687

>K<

Lazy bastards, do it yourself if you're that annoyed with the council.

[craig180]

Lazy bastards, do it yourself if you're that annoyed with the council.

And claim back some of your council tax that you HAVE to pay for such services, otherwise you get taken to court ;)

[andywiddss1]

all this makes very interesting reading, i could comment but as a white van man that drives 45k a year prob best i dont ha ha

[craig180]

all this makes very interesting reading, i could comment but as a white van man that drives 45k a year prob best i dont ha ha

Any jobs going? :p

[saxowebby]

i do the gritting for the ha on the m5, m6, m42, m50, m40

we have been told to use it sparingly due to the shortage, and to only concentrate on major roads at first.once they were clear move to the lesser roads and if need be kee just one lane open so traffic can move.

tuesday and wednesday we were flat out 14hours a day ploughing 1ft deep snow and gritting.


another problem im salt needs traffic to crunch it u so it work, as people arent going out driving on the roads the salt isnt mixing in with the snow, thats why it frove and is even worse now. thats why motorways are clear because cars use them, and inner city roads are busy as not many people used them in the bad weather.

also -8c or below salt freezes its self, so wont work then

[KINGVTS]

LOL at some peoples views on the world

[JamesR]

LOL at some peoples views on the world

How are you finding the road this winter in your VTS? Must be your first winter driving isn't it? And if not the worst one you have driven in?

[Saxomatic]

Roads around here werent (including the major roads). we had two inches of snow, which was forecast a week ago.

Two/three weeks ago we had 4 inches in total. (which was also forecast a week before it happened). Council never bothered to grit then either.

Nice to see Council tax being put to use... Piss poor.

[Mochachino]

The roads i use are either main A/B Roads or roads that are used quite regulary and they seem alright.

However, i went out last at at 4am for a drive and on the A46 the side i was driving on was seriously slippy. I thought it was ok and was gaining on a lorry which was doing about 55? Came to the top of a hill to a roundabout where there were street lights and you could see how slippy and iced the road was, i changed down into 4th then 3th and it was seriously easy to spin up in both gears at low revs!

[KINGVTS]

How are you finding the road this winter in your VTS? Must be your first winter driving isn't it? And if not the worst one you have driven in?

its been alrite , been off college this week, so been helping my dads business as all the slackers are skiving off, takin it easy and using the throotle lightly and engine to slow down

[raunchz]

i do the gritting for the ha on the m5, m6, m42, m50, m40

we have been told to use it sparingly due to the shortage, and to only concentrate on major roads at first.once they were clear move to the lesser roads and if need be kee just one lane open so traffic can move.

tuesday and wednesday we were flat out 14hours a day ploughing 1ft deep snow and gritting.


another problem im salt needs traffic to crunch it u so it work, as people arent going out driving on the roads the salt isnt mixing in with the snow, thats why it frove and is even worse now. thats why motorways are clear because cars use them, and inner city roads are busy as not many people used them in the bad weather.

also -8c or below salt freezes its self, so wont work then

Spot on, people forget that salt and gritting the roads only works until around -5 to -8. After that nothing helps really.

So complaining that roads havn't been gritted when it's been -15 to -10 over night is a tad bit uneducated IMO.

The UK could have as much grit as it wanted, but if it goes below the working temperature it's useless + *awaits gritter chipped paint off my car etc.*

It's just a balancing act storing enough grit/salt for when it does get bloody cold, against the cost of storing it/buying it in the first place.

[daz_zz_er]

lol i actually saw a gritter last night for the first time in ages haha

[dankzy]

there is an advantage to roads not been gritted, handbrake turns lol

[SneakyVTR]

People complain to much but don't try to help themselves. In weather as bad as it has been some snow chains wouldn't go a miss.. Been to a ski resort high in the alps? They get on with it very well. Twingo's getting up hills steeper than any i've seen in the UK.