Bulldogs

[Cupra-Craig]

Right guys me an the mrs are thining of getting a bulldog pup.

But i;'ve heard lot of things about there health. I have looked on internet but nothing better than people who have or have had them as pets.

All info welcomed thanks

[nicole_]

my mates one could barely breathe all the time, face was so mushed up
was very very boisterous(sp), really in your face, in the end it ended up attacking her brother randomly and he ended up in hospital and dog ended up being put down, scary waht could of happened as they had 3 kids under 10 living with that dog

[Lucas_LFC]

I have bullogs (youre on about british?yes)

wel we got our first about 4/5 years ago then we bred her. then we kept 2 of the pups, a male and female, but unfortunately the male died last summer :( the female is about 3 now.

but no real health problems, never had anything happen with them in all these years....best dogs in the world imo, although not cheap to buy :y:

[Lucas_LFC]

my mates one could barely breathe all the time, face was so mushed up
was very very boisterous(sp), really in your face, in the end it ended up attacking her brother randomly and he ended up in hospital and dog ended up being put down, scary waht could of happened as they had 3 kids under 10 living with that dog

p.s. they are not vicious dogs at all, although people think they are similar to pitbulls, but i cannot stress more that they are not dangerous.

when my dogs are taken for walks, threre are other dogs which bark at mine, but they dont pay attention or bark back.

aslo i have 3 cats, and they interact with the dogs, even 1 walks alongside them during walks...if anyhthing the dogs would be scared of the cat lmao

but then again, a dog is only as good/bad as they are treated by their owners

[blackie_2k5]

they are vicious dogs, as nicole posted like a few other breeds they are prone to turning on kids, normally heart issues too, cancer is a real risk a few mates have been put down due to cancer

[jonnybiff]

Well said Lucas. A dog is only as good as it has been taught to be.

[nicole_]

this dog had absolutely no reason to be like that, had it since it was a puppy, had always lived with the family, wasnt abused or taught to be aggressive and was always told off when it did something wrong,
you're always gunna back up the dog you own, and theres always exceptions to all cases, but in general yeh they are an aggressive breed

[Lucas_LFC]

they are vicious dogs, as nicole posted like a few other breeds they are prone to turning on kids, normally heart issues too, cancer is a real risk a few mates have been put down due to cancer

well down to my first hand experience of owning and breeding these dogs, we have had no issues at all of being attacked or them being vicious.

i know 2 people that has been attacked by their dog, one is my mate who climbed round his back yard with a hoody on, and his alsation attacked him, he was 15 iirc and he needed stitches in his arm.

another friend, owned an alsation also, it turned on his mum and she had to go to hospital

and iirc alsations are more common as pets than bulldogs, as bulldog are harder to find to buy

[Little-Butch]

Can't quite see the point In them. They can't really run, jump or anything athletic?
I could be biased though as I work Labs and I'm Into my Bull Breeds!

Butch

[Lucas_LFC]

here is a link i found, all be it a couple of years old, of the 10 most vicious dogs in america

http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds

maybe supris some people

[Lucas_LFC]

also found this

http://www.petplanet.co.uk/petplanet/breeds/Bulldog.htm

[Little-Butch]

I wouldn't take much notice of that link, I only read the Pitbull one but from what I read they clearly know absolutely nothing!
Butch

[shayne_vtr]

i have two bulldagsand our family has had um for at least 20 odd years never had a problem,ther one of the best dogs to have around kids, the ony problemwe av found is that ther bloody mardy!!!

[Cupra-Craig]

I have bullogs (youre on about british?yes)

wel we got our first about 4/5 years ago then we bred her. then we kept 2 of the pups, a male and female, but unfortunately the male died last summer :( the female is about 3 now.

but no real health problems, never had anything happen with them in all these years....best dogs in the world imo, although not cheap to buy :y:

Yeah british/english bulldogs.

Yeah i know they are expensive but i think they are worth it always liked them.
Mums got a staffy thats soft as a brush a like a little baby!!
You got any pics lucas?

[Cupra-Craig]

I think we need picture of your bull dogs

[Lucas_LFC]

yea, only can find one on my laptop, but this is of the male less than a year old

sorry about the pic quality, was an old camera at the time lol

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1819/bulldogj.th.png (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/bulldogj.png/)

[megan94]

they can find it hard breathing i think.. the sliver a lot.

[Lucas_LFC]

got a few more here

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2562/ellieand2others.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/ellieand2others.jpg/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3767/19068537.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/19068537.jpg/)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/108/90140209.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/90140209.jpg/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5906/52379629.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/52379629.jpg/)

[Cupra-Craig]

Heres the one we are looking at lucas wat do you think

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/gutch1985/bull.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/gutch1985/bull2.jpg

[blackie_2k5]

i know off a few that have turned and witnessed a mates dad beat his own dog to death when it turned on his 3 yo granddaughter for touching its back end, the dog hand been brought to know the girl since she was born, luckily it didnt do her much damage and just some cuts and bruises to her shoulder but it went nuts and wouldnt stop, just lucky she fell over and his dad kicked it across the room before it had a chance to grab her again, he got bit several times off it though

alsations ill agree are lovely dogs too but even i got bit off one of them, got 2 scars on my wrist, tbh it was my own fault as the dog was old and blind and didnt know me and i went to stroke it from the blind side

[Lucas_LFC]

very nice, how old is it in the pic...looks at least a few weeks old, but been a long time since i seen a pup

tan colour is the nicest imo

EDIT: looks older than a few weeks because it is quite big lol

[Cupra-Craig]

i know off a few that have turned and witnessed a mates dad beat his own dog to death when it turned on his 3 yo granddaughter for touching its back end, the dog hand been brought to know the girl since she was born, luckily it didnt do her much damage and just some cuts and bruises to her shoulder but it went nuts and wouldnt stop, just lucky she fell over and his dad kicked it across the room before it had a chance to grab her again, he got bit several times off it though

alsations ill agree are lovely dogs too but even i got bit off one of them, got 2 scars on my wrist, tbh it was my own fault as the dog was old and blind and didnt know me and i went to stroke it from the blind side

Well i've always had staffy's an never had a prob with them at all. Few of mates have them too with kids an no probs

[Cupra-Craig]

very nice, how old is it in the pic...looks at least a few weeks old, but been a long time since i seen a pup

tan colour is the nicest imo

EDIT: looks older than a few weeks because it is quite big lol

Yeah he's sixteen week old. full paper etc. Owner been holding him for someone but they never turned up after paying deposit.

Said i can take him for £900

[Lucas_LFC]

i understand any dog can turn and be vicious, but you cant say a dog is vicious because you have heard a few stories of one type of breed.

although personally i havent heard of a bulldog attack, i have heard of alsation attacks, but i still see them as a nice dog lol

[Lucas_LFC]

Yeah he's sixteen week old. full paper etc. Owner been holding him for someone but they never turned up after paying deposit.

Said i can take him for £900

Kc reg, full pedigree and all aye??

£900....bargain, get him bought!!lol will make such a difference in your life, and will be the best decision of your life :y:

my dogs apparently have championship blood in them, but decided not to show them

[Cupra-Craig]

Kc reg and all aye??

£900....bargain, get him bought!!lol will make such a difference in your life, and will be the best decision of your life :y:

my dogs apparently have championship blood in them, but decided not to show them

Yes he's got all his KC papers wouldnt really buy any dog that hasnt tbh.

He's got one or two champions in his blood line too but he will be a family pet an thats all.

Got baby coming soon so my family will be complete.

[Lucas_LFC]

well enjoy...and have fun lol :y:

[stinkycheese]

I won't even start in this thread......

[Cupra-Craig]

I won't even start in this thread......

Why not mate i want all view etc

[stinkycheese]

Watch a documentary called Pedigree Dogs Exposed on google video.

[nicole_]

Yes he's got all his KC papers wouldnt really buy any dog that hasnt tbh.



why not?

[Cupra-Craig]

why not?

Dont know tbh just never have. No real reason have had 2 staffys now an both been kc reg.

[Little-Butch]

Watch a documentary called Pedigree Dogs Exposed on google video.

Here's somebody that knows what He's talking about. I can't see why there's a demand In these Dogs but aslong as there's a demand for them people will breed them. What's the point In breeding these Dogs with so many problems?

Butch

[shayne_vtr]

my dogs, the white ones called coke and the fawn/brindle one is bam bam
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/ep91_228/22122009252.jpg
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/ep91_228/15062009049.jpg
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/ep91_228/14062009046.jpg
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/ep91_228/09082009009.jpg
http://i447.photobucket.com/albums/qq198/ep91_228/13102009195.jpg

[Cupra-Craig]

Like i said i want other people experiences as always had staffys never a prob but the mrs an i like these dogs.

I just dont wanna pay all that money an get big vet bills all the time

[Cupra-Craig]

Have you had any probs mate?

[Little-Butch]

I've grown up with Staffs and as I posted earlier I love my Bull Breeds! Now got an EBT.
I wouldn't personally get a Bulldog but It's your choice. Staffs are a far supirior Dog In every way you look at It..

Butch

[Lucas_LFC]

Like i said i want other people experiences as always had staffys never a prob but the mrs an i like these dogs.

I just dont wanna pay all that money an get big vet bills all the time

yes these dogs may have all these ancestory problems, but from my first hand experience we have had no problems, and the mother is now 9 years old and full of health. Shayne_vtr might be able to tell you his expereicnes on costs over the 20 years hes had them

[shayne_vtr]

5 vet bills we have had,tina broke her leg,tina had puppies,co-co dislocated her knee twice and had puppies once thats it honestly itnothing major, you need to make sure you get your puppy from a good blood line, thers so many shit ones out ther its easy to pic up one with alot of inbred problems,it dont take a genius to work out that if they are beeing bred willy nilly statistically ther will be alot of bulldogs with problems , just as i have said before make sure you do your homework

[Lucas_LFC]

^^^ good advice + your dogs look class!!! :D

[Cupra-Craig]

See thats why i'm scared if i get the wrong dog.

Is he cheap for a reason.

They have he mother as there pet.

Or do i stay with what i know which are staffys

[Lucas_LFC]

he may just be cheap for various reasons:

1 - they have had him too long and need to sell him on, but no buyers??
2 - the country is in a recession and noone can afford to pay a lot for a dog??
3 - its just after xmas an the same applies as above??

its your choice at the end of the day, but if you like him then its your choice, just like a car really lol

[Tommo87]

I've a good few mates who have Bulldogs and have to admit all of them are soft as owt despite the horror stories people will tell.

[Little-Butch]

I'm not a Bulldog expert but as you may know (I'm not sure how much you know about Dogs) Inbred Dogs can be fine, probelms start happening when you start to Inbreed heavily and when numptys breed two Dogs with simular problems. As said, do you Homework.

Check the Parents over If you can, get a Hip Score rating and just check for common probelms.

Butch

[Little-Butch]

I've a good few mates who have Bulldogs and have to admit all of them are soft as owt despite the horror stories people will tell.

That's because the fat cunts barely have enough wind to walk let alone anything else! :p

Butch

[shayne_vtr]

ask them to send a copy of the blood line what area is it from and ill tell you what to look for, ie the best dogs in the east mids area is king rock/ocobo ill av a look for you mate

[Cupra-Craig]

Well fuck it i'm at least gunna go an have a look an look at the mum

[Lucas_LFC]

^^lol they are pretty lazy i admit, but its just something about them

and about inbreeding...which sad fu*kers would do that??? probably some, but i know we dont lol

[Cupra-Craig]

ask them to send a copy of the blood line what area is it from and ill tell you what to look for, ie the best dogs in the east mids area is king rock/ocobo ill av a look for you mate

I have sent them an email asking for that i'l pm it over thanks mate

[Little-Butch]

^^lol they are pretty lazy i admit, but its just something about them

and about inbreeding...which sad fu*kers would do that??? probably some, but i know we dont lol

What do you mean?
Butch

[Lucas_LFC]

i dont know, like when we first seen our first buldog and play with them for a while, you just fall in love really. we did all the usual checks, like family history and all that craic, and then we bought her.

being lazy, i mean there not the most fun and energetic dogs to play with, a bit of playing football out the back, or a run up the field and then there ling down having a kip in the sun lol

interbreeding, i mean like its just wrong...its not hard to find another bulldog from a different family line to breed with, but since it usually cost about £500 to stud the dog, or one puppy, it would be a far cheaper option to inter breed.

[Little-Butch]

I'm just saying, there's actually nothing wrong with Inbreeding if done properly!
Butch

[Lucas_LFC]

that may be, i wouldnt know about that, but i know i wouldnt want to chance it

[stinkycheese]

Honestly, please don't waste 900 pounds on a kc registered dog, especially a bulldog. The breed has been ruined. What do you want the dog for? They can't run, can't jump, can't breathe, can't see, they're skin has all sorts of problems and they can't even shag on their own! Isn't that natural selection trying to tell you something?

[lemon191]

im sure i heard on some form of documentary that most if not all pedigree dogs are inbreds hence all the common problems

[Little-Butch]

Stick with Staffs mate, but make sure you get a proper Staff and not one of these 13tts and 40lb frog eyed ones!
Butch

[nicole_]

im sure i heard on some form of documentary that most if not all pedigree dogs are inbreds hence all the common problems

yupppp something like that
i have pedigree's and my old one lived till she was 6 cus the over-breeding had weakened the breed bless her,

dogs i have now have come from the head of the uk club and they're trying to strengthen the breed so my dogs parents are from belgium and austria to try and avoid inbreedng and find the strongest ones,
3 hour drive and £1600 later i have two strong healthy dogs, totally worth it

[Cupra-Craig]

3 hour drive and £1600 later i have two strong healthy dogs, totally worth it


What dogs do you have nicole?

[nicole_]

bernese mountain dogs, always had em :)
belle and beau
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/lilnic16/dogses.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/lilnic16/SDC11992-1.jpg
my old dog maybelle
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/lilnic16/i117891325_66370_5.jpg
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/lilnic16/i119778308_70082_5.jpg

[blackie_2k5]

im not trying to say every dog is evil and every dog will turn, he asked for experiences, yes 80% of a breed will have no med probs or attack anyone but then that 20% still lets the breed down and this is where certain types get classed as a viscious breed, if your planning on having kids later on i wouldnt reccomend but by all means its your choice, i also know lots of ppl whov had them years with no probs, the photographer and his dad at the bottom of my street had one till it was 19 before they had to get it put down, but there is "safer dogs" in terms of statistics, i agree not to buy without all paers though you never know what your getting, a lad i knock around with drew bought a "staffy" off the gypsies, totally his own fault for even going to do such and idiotic thing but it did look like a very good staff as a pup... by the time it was 16weeks it was as tall as a lurcher and looked like a horrid mongrel thing... he kept saying i wish it'd run away

[Little-Butch]

One thing I do stress Is to buy from a reputable Breeder! Many 'backyard breeders' know what they're doing and only breed from good stock but then there's others that breed to make money and not with the Dogs welfare In mind. Can be hard to tell who's good and who's bad but It's worth doing your homework!

1. To make sure you get a healthy Dog.
2. To make sure your not supporting these Puppy Peddlers.

Butch

[Rach125]

i own a bulldog, they are lovely dogs but the older they get they are known to get health issues such as arthritis so i would recommend getting pet insurance, i love my bulldog and i would not swap him for the world :P