£6k mile muncher / Track car

[sir_dave]

Suggestions please.

After the summer, ill be buying a house/moving in with the missus, & moving 40 miles away from work.

If i can find somewhere to keep the saxo, ill obviously keep it, get rid of the thristy golf & buy a cheapo 330i Sport to pile the miles on ...

My problem is, if i cant keep the saxo, what car for £6k would give me driving pleasure, get to 30-35 mpg on the mway (80 mile commute) and be suitable for track days as well :panic:

Im currently thinking a Leon Cupra R with remap, FMIC & coilovers.

Any other suggestions? No Jap crap btw.

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

bmw 320d with remap, 50mpg, lovely balanced handling and not slow when kept in torque range ;)

[sir_dave]

No diesels :p

They're simply not suitable for track, & are a complete money pit when they do go wrong, which after a track day, they do. Been there, done that lol.

[DonnieVTR]

honda civic type r , or fiesta st?

[sir_dave]

Forgot to mention, dont really want another little car, otherwise id just buy another Clio 1*2. I'd like a bit of comfort on the daily trek ...

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

No diesels :p

They're simply not suitable for track, & are a complete money pit when they do go wrong, which after a track day, they do. Been there, done that lol.

Fair point mate, diesel turbo = ££££

[Tommo87]

Accord Type-R,you'll get a minter and still have change.

[saxmaster]

audi tt

[sir_dave]

audi tt

Girlfriend has a 225 Coupe already, otherwise id have one ...

[Dazza1]

Sounds like you have had a few cars lol, Why no Jap crap mate?

Good Luck.

Thanks Darren.

[sir_dave]

Sounds like you have had a few cars lol, Why no Jap crap mate?

Yeah, just a few lol.

Jap Crap reasoning - i'd happily have an Evo 7/8 or Scooby Sti, but fuel economy is abysmal!! Vtec isnt something that does it for me, the CTR steering feel is non-existant and the ITR/ATR is a bit old these days, brilliant cars though!!

[littleracer]

fiesta ST?

[sir_dave]

fiesta ST?

I do love them, especially with the mountune package, but i m not sure i would buy one over a 1*2 if i was looking for another small car ...

[Krys_23]

Mk5 GSi Turbo.. Golf GTi turbo?

[GrantW]

e36 M3? Dunno about mpg on the motorway though...

[craig180]

Octavia vRS

Diesel. I know you said you don't want a diesel but these have proven quite capable on track, return upto 60mpg and have generic engine parts from throughout the VAG range so cheap spurious parts are readily available

[JamesR]

Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-GSI-TURBO-16V-BLUE_W0QQitemZ330404070430QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item4ced9e041e)

Not the lowest milage ever, but it does look like it has been looked after.

[ukgaz]

Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-GSI-TURBO-16V-BLUE_W0QQitemZ330404070430QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item4ced9e041e)

Not the lowest milage ever, but it does look like it has been looked after.

Weak turbos, need to put in a vxr turbo on those, very common issue,

[craig180]

Clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-GSI-TURBO-16V-BLUE_W0QQitemZ330404070430QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutom obiles_UK?hash=item4ced9e041e)

Not the lowest milage ever, but it does look like it has been looked after.

Seen a few of these on fire

[mardon]

Doesn't the Leon Cupra R already have a FMIC? The 20v Turbo is a great engine as your Mrs will know!

I'd save a little more and get a mk2 Leon FR (Golf GTi Engine). These stage one map to 260BHP. You could spend more money and go Stage 2 300BHP+ The k1 kit is teh shex!!

http://fancytuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/seat-leon-cupra-k1-01.jpg

[JamesR]

Seen a few of these on fire

Woah, i have never really looked into them that much but it looks like i have suggested the wrong car lol :n:

[Mieran]

Astra GSI MK4 or Coupe 888
Megane Sport (will probably break down)
306 GTI-6 and supercharge it?

No Jap crap btw.

Why not? 6K can get you a S2000!

[D--R--E--W]

My mate had a ibiza fr diesel, remapped to 182bhp atw and 345lbs of torque. used to smoke my mates 350ish bhp evo5 upto 100mph, he told me when driving on the motorway he got around 50mpg

[mardon]

My mate had a ibiza fr diesel, remapped to 182bhp atw and 345lbs of torque. used to smoke my mates 350ish bhp evo5 upto 100mph, he told me when driving on the motorway he got around 50mpg

I had a 200BHP ibiza Cupra Diesel it was quite a weapon! It stayed completely parallel with a modified EP3 Civic Type R on the quarter mile.

[Mieran]

I'd imagine the smoke coming out of a 200bhp diesel would be like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AQpAJo5tk

And I would expect the Ibiza to win against an EP3 because they have much more torque so staying parallel is a bit disappointing.

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

I'd imagine the smoke coming out of a 200bhp diesel would be like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AQpAJo5tk

And I would expect the Ibiza to win against an EP3 because they have much more torque so staying parallel is a bit disappointing.

I have a 200BHP diesel and she doesnt smoke at all ;)

I fucking hate the way americans love smoke like that and can get away with it when here we are in the UK paying stupid amounts of road tax on a 2ltr petrol!

[mardon]

Only lots of smoke if its a bad map chucking loads of un-needed fuel. My mapped diesel chucked out hardly any smoke. Really don’t know why people hate diesel. You should try it, the powerband is far more accessible for day to day driving.

Sorry I meant EP3 (old shape not the new FN2 shape, got titles mixed up) and it was modified with exhaust, induction and I think k-pro. It also pulled away from ST focus’s but he was closing the gap toward the end of the quarter strip.

My mate had a FN2 and I pulled away from that when my car was standard (170BHP on the rollers). I wouldn’t write off a VAG diesel as a track car.

[sir_dave]

FYI.

I used to own a mapped 206 hdi, i took it to the ring & f*cked it by driving it hard. New clutch, turbo, injectors, high/low pressure fuel pumps & injector rail. Not going there again thank you very much. Mate at work has a mapped 330d, a briliant drive that had just cost him over £2k in turbo & a few other bits and bobs.

Derv = false economy imho. I've done 160k in the past 4 years, the cheapest car to run out of the lot, a 328i Sport.

Petrol :y:
Diesel :n:

It upsets me that people can consider a car that revs to a max of 5k rpm a track car :panic:

As it happens, i'm going to look at an M3 Evo tomorrow ;)

[mardon]

Peugeot HDi.. thats where you went wrong :)

The HUGE amount of torque more than makes up for the rev range. You just dont drive the car the same. But you know what your after so fair play.

TBF the Ibiza Cupra handled CRAP compared to my 106 Gti!

I vote VAG! Go for a leon!

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

FYI.

I used to own a mapped 206 hdi, i took it to the ring & f*cked it by driving it hard. New clutch, turbo, injectors, high/low pressure fuel pumps & injector rail. Not going there again thank you very much. Mate at work has a mapped 330d, a briliant drive that had just cost him over £2k in turbo & a few other bits and bobs.

Derv = false economy imho. I've done 160k in the past 4 years, the cheapest car to run out of the lot, a 328i Sport.

Petrol :y:
Diesel :n:

It upsets me that people can consider a car that revs to a max of 5k rpm a track car :panic:

I do agree to some extent, although i drive my derv pretty hard and she hasnt missed a beat yet (touch wood) luckily the garage before i bought it had a new turbo and egr etc fitted before i bought it, wouldnt fancy having that cost thrown at me. The only reason i have one is the amount of miles i do, done 13k in it since august :(

[AndyMalvernVTS]

Ford Mondeo st220 :P

[craig180]

SO what about all the btcc teams running diesels?

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

SO what about all the btcc teams running diesels?

Not to mention the le mans winning audi r10 tdi ;) bit of a difference i know but it shows diesels can be used on track successfully.

[Giraffe]

SO what about all the btcc teams running diesels?

Which teams run diesels now? I knew SEAT did a while ago, wasn't aware any more had but I don't follow it too much, just didn't think SEAT did too well running the diesels did they?

[matt19]

renting garages is quite cheap ive heard ...

[GrantW]

As it happens, i'm going to look at an M3 Evo tomorrow ;)

Wahey, as I suggested, whack up the advert so we can have a gander.

[sir_dave]

Wahey, as I suggested, whack up the advert so we can have a gander.

M3 Evo (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200951348854585/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/7000/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/m3/make/bmw/page/4/radius/200/postcode/kt151aa?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fused%2Fcars%2Fbmw%2Fm 3%2Fpostcode%2Fkt151aa%2Fradius%2F200%2Fprice-to%2F7000%2Fseller-type%2Ftrade_adverts%2Fpage%2F4%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc&logcode=p)

Quite a pricey one, but will remind me off what they are like ...

[rushy_23]

I'd personally say the EP3 will tick all those boxes. Including the Jap crap box which isnt a good thing for yourself.

Maybe a few engine alterations can change the engine characteristics to suit you?

[NICK2506]

it will be quite hard to find a car thats good for motorway, comfortable, and can be used on tracks.....

although.....what about a:
Honda s2000
Vauxhall vx220
Ford Mondeo st220

[TheGoldNurburg]

Holy crap thats a amazing leon :) could only think of a diesel but here preety expensive depending on the car :(

[hellovts]

civic type r (EP3)

i know you dont like them but they do tick the boxes your asking for

M3 EVO doesnt imo, sucks fuel, high miled, old, expensiv to run and so on

[Saxo_Scott]

Fabia VRS

[Ryan]

Any other suggestions? No Jap crap btw.

I loled, espec when people still suggest shitvics. :homme:

M3 will be good, shame so many of them are wrecked from years of abuse.

[xxo0pko0xx]

if your going diesiel go reno megane 1.9 tdci. mate gets 60mpg outta it. hes had something done to it as it goes like shit of a shovel. tbh tho i think hes uprated the turbo system. he has a 2" backbox on it and supprisnly enough it sounds alright. i thought itll sound like a tractor :)

[xxo0pko0xx]

civic type r (EP3)

i know you dont like them but they do tick the boxes your asking for

M3 EVO doesnt imo, sucks fuel, high miled, old, expensiv to run and so on

dont get a evo then :y:

[CampDavid]

E39 M5, now down as low as £6k. Obviously it will be a completely cunted example at that price but c'mon, it's an M5 :)

Back in the real world, how about a Mazda MX5 Sport? Does all that you ask and has brilliant handling for track work, will be super cheap to run and £6k should grab something pretty perfect.

An E46 330ci is in budget, as you know they're awesome but not the track toy the E36 was.

Being that you're not that tall, a Porsche 944? That said, even the Boxster is getting near those prices now and would be a better DD

[Slugshead]

Leon cupra defffos

[mardon]

if your going diesiel go reno megane 1.9 tdci. mate gets 60mpg outta it. hes had something done to it as it goes like shit of a shovel. tbh tho i think hes uprated the turbo system. he has a 2" backbox on it and supprisnly enough it sounds alright. i thought itll sound like a tractor :)


Naah they are so crap (older shape) my mates blew up last week. Was so funny :)