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jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 15:15
Who will you be voting for in the genral election?

CHIP
2nd April 2010, 15:16
This should be a good thread/argument.

Pieface
2nd April 2010, 15:44
Conservative. Because he's the only local MP who I've ever heard from, the others don't seem bothered. Our Labour MP is just untrustworthy after he was one of the ones in the Expenses scandal.

And then I'd never vote for Labour, who seem to try and bribe voters by giving them money (Such things like the Benefits system, and EMA, both are severely abused and Labour don't seem to give a damn as it might win them votes). Also a government that resorts to a form of economics that has always been proven as unsuccessful to get us out of the recession (Keynesian economics, google it if you don't know), and suprisingly, we were the last one out of the recession because of doing Keynesian economics which is just spend our way out of the recession. What bloody good that did.

Labour also just seem to be full of idiots, and 1 Conservative scandal goes next to about 4 Labour scandals (Such as the recent bribe scandal, and also the Lord Ashworth was so carried on by Labour, who were in severe trouble for the Cash for honours scandal, which in my opinion was much worse).

Lib Dem just seem to be nobody, although Vince Cable seems to be intellectual, Nick Clegg just seems to be a nobody who makes no impact in politics and just resorts to poor questions and answers. And then UKIP have too few policies to follow apart from quit the EU (Which I do agree with), but nothing else notable. Same with BNP (Get immigrants out) and Green Party (Help save the environment). So the only people to vote for is Conservative, also my family does well under a Conservative government, as all the money that my Dad especially works very hard for (Up to 50 hour weeks working into the night etc) to get a great wage, and live a comftorble lifestyle is immediately going to those Benefit scroungers who don't want the work, but just to live off the state.

Essay complete :P

Toms112
2nd April 2010, 15:45
Labour need to get out and give someone else a chance to run the country. They say they're the best party but we dont know what the others can do cause they have never been given a chance!

Bound
2nd April 2010, 15:47
The conservatives. Home Counties are a safe bet for conservatives. The constituency I'm in has been a Conservative stronghold for 50 years, with a 20% margin. :D.

Saxo forum, well, I'd say with not giving it much thought, but thinking briefly of the demographics, that Labour will get a few votes from here, but I hope people are smarter than that, and have learnt.

VTR-GAZzA
2nd April 2010, 15:48
i couldnt care less who run n that lot probably not going to vote because i dunno what is what anyone fancy writing what each is about lol??

frankie
2nd April 2010, 15:51
none of them, as they havent done anything to help me so dont deserve my vote.

stevie_m
2nd April 2010, 15:52
Personally I'm going for Labour.

Really gets on my t*t's the way Tony Blair more or less got away scotfree and Brown takes it in the neck from all angles sometimes through no fault of his own.

Tories will promiss the world but when they get into power it will be like the 80's / early 90's all over again. Cameron is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

frankie
2nd April 2010, 15:56
i think cameron is a smarmy looking bugger....

but then again you should'nt judge a book by its cover.

McGuire86
2nd April 2010, 15:56
People who dont vote should have as much rights as an ilegal imigrant.
Our Grandparents went to war and split their blood so we could live in a democracy and have the right to vote so not voting is like a slap in their face, disgusting.
Even if you dont agree with any of the main parties you can still do a protest vote.

I shall be voting for UKIP the only party that talks any sense.

I used to be Conservitive until Cameron got in, hes just a mini Blair.
Cant believe people will still be voting for Labour lol..

-Alex-
2nd April 2010, 15:58
People who dont vote should have as much rights as an ilegal imigrant.
Our Grandparents went to war and split their blood so we could live in a democracy and have the right to vote so ont voting is like a slap in their face, disgusting.
Even if you dont agree with any of the main parties you can still do a protest vote.

I shall be voting for UKIP the only party that talks any sense.

I used to be Conservitive until Cameron got in, hes just a mini Blair.
Cant believe people will still be voting for Labour lol..

:homme: They also fought for us to have rights, and we have a right not to vote.
EDIT: I will be voting though.

AdskiVTR
2nd April 2010, 16:00
ukip or bnp lol

frankie
2nd April 2010, 16:07
People who dont vote should have as much rights as an ilegal imigrant.
Our Grandparents went to war and split their blood so we could live in a democracy and have the right to vote so not voting is like a slap in their face, disgusting.
Even if you dont agree with any of the main parties you can still do a protest vote.

I shall be voting for UKIP the only party that talks any sense.

I used to be Conservitive until Cameron got in, hes just a mini Blair.
Cant believe people will still be voting for Labour lol..

our grandparents fort because they had to...

if they had the choice, i doubt the would of gone....

we have the choice, i choose not to...

oh part of a democracy is freedom...

CHIP
2nd April 2010, 16:09
ukip or bnp lol

Oh dear... now you've said it. Bickerton will be along shortly :)

C4_Lew
2nd April 2010, 16:10
I just want brown out, not a fan of call me dave but I think he should have a go.

PETE-VTR
2nd April 2010, 16:15
BNP

but ideally id like Jeremy Clarkson to run the country!

haz_pro
2nd April 2010, 16:26
BNP

lol, i dont know who im voting for, not conservatives though as i am a student.

Tom
2nd April 2010, 16:53
Labour really do need to get out, in my opinion they have been terrible.

The problem is that realistically it will be either Labour or the Tories that get in. I don't like either but you have to choose the best of the worst in these things.

Also, to the people who aren't going to vote, you really should try to reconsider, it's something that will have a major effect on your life.

Phils_VTR
2nd April 2010, 17:08
I don't vote and won't vote yet as i'm only 18 myself, have no idea or care for politics. No matter who is 'in charge' we are all doomed. :panic:

jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 17:11
Labour needs to be banished for good.

Debt debt and more debt

we are up the creek like Greece, the private sector just cannot support the overbloated public sector. The golden pensions of the public sector need to be stopped for everyones benefit.

I nearly vomited the other day when labour wheeled out the smirking shit Blair. How can someone who has cost so many live with his bull shit wars be so arrogant, maybe if it was his own son going to war he would not have done it.

Steve_90
2nd April 2010, 17:12
I'd vote if I gave a fuck about this country. I can't wait to get out of it tbh.

Steve_90
2nd April 2010, 17:15
Labour needs to be banished for good.

Debt debt and more debt

we are up the creek like Greece, the private sector just cannot support the overbloated public sector. The golden pensions of the public sector need to be stopped for everyones benefit.

I nearly vomited the other day when labour wheeled out the smirking shit Blair. How can someone who has cost so many lives with his bull shit wars be so arrogant, maybe if he sent his fucking son to war on a lie.

I know how you feel mate I can't believe Blair or Bush dare to show their faces anymore.
I went and watched that new Matt Damon film "Green Zone" the other night, I actually felt angry when I watched it.

jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 17:18
lol, i dont know who im voting for, not conservatives though as i am a student.

I was a student under a conservative goverment, it was great and was free , you even got a grant.

deans2k8
2nd April 2010, 17:22
i dont vote never have probably never will either

because,,if a new law or rule comes into play and i voted for them id be pissed off at myself

i myself think that it should go back to how it used to be the queen should run the country not a bunch of underqualified fat blokes in suits who want all of the money for none of the work politicians are just false celebs imo

Pieface
2nd April 2010, 17:28
i myself think that it should go back to how it used to be the queen should run the country not a bunch of underqualified fat blokes in suits who want all of the money for none of the work politicians are just false celebs imo

Oh dear god, *facepalm*

deans2k8
2nd April 2010, 17:32
well what about the armys false claim..fight for queen and country..your not fighting for the queen your fighting for the prime ministers greed the majority of the time

haz_pro
2nd April 2010, 17:34
I was a student under a conservative goverment, it was great and was free , you even got a grant.

Eh?

From what i have been told conservative want to reduce the amount availible as a loan/grant, AND increase the tuition fee for university.

:wacko:

stormin
2nd April 2010, 17:34
From a scottish perspective I am in mind for the cons this time as labour up here full of pish talking wankers, Lib Dem (WHO?) they dont make much of an impact here.
And as for BNP dont be stupid! but got to say some of there policies are interesting:oops:
SNP got my vote last time but to be honest was a wasted vote and as for devolution lol that aint never going to happen. They a good party with some go values on community but as an overall party have too many flaws.
Cons on the other hand have always been sitting in the shadows waiting to pounce up here and think this is there time to shine.

As said in other post I am fucking fed up hearing that public sector workers are so hard done by( My arse) they get away with too much, with most of my family into it aswell:n: most dont deserve to be working.

One thing that britain has a lack of is a decent workforce we have become a nation of Lazy gits more hell bent on claiming off the goverment than doing a days work, this is not aimed at everyone just that small minority, it really getting too me that it is us workers that are supporting these twats!!!!

And when people go on about how our Great Britain is full of illegal immigrants, well I am sorry but it is us that have created this low income nation by hiring them for pennies or even illegal, but in there defence they are only doing the jobs that we once refused to do and now because of the current economy they being shouted out.

As a nation of youth it is about time that we made ourselfs heard and shout for what we deserve we all have the right to say how our country should be run, and those of you that dont vote are only letting our future generations down. It about time that we made a stand and sorted our once great nation out and make it work for our future:y:

We can all come together From England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, We can make our vote count so make a point to vote:y:


This is a political brodcast brought to you from SAX-P lol.

Steve_90
2nd April 2010, 17:35
i dont vote never have probably never will either

because,,if a new law or rule comes into play and i voted for them id be pissed off at myself

i myself think that it should go back to how it used to be the queen should run the country not a bunch of underqualified fat blokes in suits who want all of the money for none of the work politicians are just false celebs imo

Just vote for the queen in the elections mate. She's proper good.
You're another reason I don't like this country, get an education.

MikeCracknell
2nd April 2010, 17:50
I did this same poll on ZSOC two years ago - Labour got 5% Cons got 43% Lib Dem got 1% UKIP got 5% BNP got 28% lol

I reckon Conservatives will win. Brown has blown it for good!

jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 18:13
My mate works for a council, he says his work mates just take the piss all the time with taking sickies & the know they can get away with it.

If they realy push the boat out they can have 6 months off with stress, he says it a complete joke.

Micky_Westy
2nd April 2010, 18:14
George Bush.

jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 18:17
George Bush.

Gay lord Mandelson :homme:

JDanielR1875
2nd April 2010, 18:19
i dont use my vote. I consider all the partys to be thiefs and sneaky bugers so screw them all

Micky_Westy
2nd April 2010, 18:19
Gay lord Mandelson :homme:

It was a joke dude.

I'll be voting for Nelson Mandela obviously.

Tontsy
2nd April 2010, 18:20
im guessing "other" is aimed at BNP?

wadoryu
2nd April 2010, 18:28
tory any day of the week

wadoryu
2nd April 2010, 18:29
im guessing "other" is aimed at BNP?

not just the BNP

ukip
moster raving luney party
legailsed cannabis alliance
green

*trying to remember topgear*

tom130691
2nd April 2010, 18:41
ukip or bnp lol

my foreign house mate is going to vote for them for the hell of it lol

river
2nd April 2010, 18:48
You people who are saying 'not voting lib dem, they make no impact..' stop and think.

Its like saying...

I'm not kicking that football, its not moving.
I'm not switching that kettle on, its not boiling.

Of course they cant do much if they don't have votes, if you like the polices vote for them, if you don't then don't.

Pieface
2nd April 2010, 18:54
You people who are saying 'not voting lib dem, they make no impact..' stop and think.

Its like saying...

I'm not kicking that football, its not moving.
I'm not switching that kettle on, its not boiling.

Of course they cant do much if they don't have votes, if you like the polices vote for them, if you don't then don't.

They make no impact because they don't have any major things to bring in.

Stevebear
2nd April 2010, 19:17
Lib Dem so hopefully my vote can affect a hung Parliament

Mieran
2nd April 2010, 19:27
I will be voting for Liberal democrats.

Bound
2nd April 2010, 20:13
COME ON CONSERVATIVES!

Man, gonna be so happy when they win.

djflipsaxo
2nd April 2010, 20:38
so who plans to help working familys and secre a good futue for our kids?

jonathon5
2nd April 2010, 20:49
so who plans to help working familys and secre a good futue for our kids?

Conservatives

ne_jam
2nd April 2010, 22:51
i think alot will vote Bnp which can be good in a sense, if bnp get decent increase other parties will take a good look at there policeys and see which bits they could possibly adapt into there's.
i will be voting con tho

djflipsaxo
3rd April 2010, 08:32
Conservatives

thought so
thts who ill be voting for

willo-1
3rd April 2010, 08:43
This should be a good thread/argument.

yer agree
vote bnp

willo-1
3rd April 2010, 08:44
i think alot will vote Bnp which can be good in a sense, if bnp get decent increase other parties will take a good look at there policeys and see which bits they could possibly adapt into there's.
i will be voting con tho

:hug::y::clapping::A:

jonathon5
3rd April 2010, 09:28
Bnp may suprise a lot of people, I like the new labour poster showing cameron sat on the bonnet of gene hunts quattro.

See sky news

Pieface
3rd April 2010, 09:47
That's a seriously bad poster. Firstly it makes Cameron look more likeable to some people. Also shall we have a poster of Brown in a hippy costume saying Don't let him take us back into the 70's. If Labour can only live in the past then it's just they have given up.

Heliosphan
3rd April 2010, 13:25
The BNP will get my vote because I'm 100% against immigration and they are the only party who will deal firmly with Islamic extremists.

I absolutely despair at anyone who is even considering voting for Labour.

Pieface
3rd April 2010, 13:43
The BNP will get my vote because I'm 100% against immigration and they are the only party who will deal firmly with Islamic extremists.

I absolutely despair at anyone who is even considering voting for Labour.

What are your reasonings for being 100% against immigration?

Oli_K
3rd April 2010, 13:53
What are your reasonings for being 100% against immigration?

+1

There are some very mis-informed statements in this thread.

Im sure those that would vote bnp would soon complain when the price of everything sky rockets, our economy needs immigration, cheap labour, whatever you want to call it.

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 14:07
Labour - Lying cunts. Get someone else in ! .... I read an article in the paper about Labours views and Tory's, Labour lost my vote on every answer they gave.

On the other hand Torys were sayin they will get police out on the streets, NOT filling paper work in ... etc etc " Sounds good " But will they ? Probably not ... They all say shit you want to hear, Then when they get power they do fuck all !

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 14:11
The BNP will get my vote because I'm 100% against immigration and they are the only party who will deal firmly with Islamic extremists.

I absolutely despair at anyone who is even considering voting for Labour. Trouble is, You vote BNP these days and all the other ethnicities bite at you for being racist ?..... So what the point in haveing the fuckin choice if you make it then get called racist... My grandad is the legend... Brings up That guy Enoch Powell every time and says He was the only guy who said exactly what would happen if we let too much immigration in and was he right, Yes he was.... Did anyone listen ? No they never !

You know what... Im going to stop now, otherwise ill get banned, But i could go on all day...literally. I think i could make a 25 page thread about the shit i see everyday and how sick to my stomach i am about seeing this country go to POT !

AshC
3rd April 2010, 14:32
The BNP will get my vote because I'm 100% against immigration and they are the only party who will deal firmly with Islamic extremists.

I absolutely despair at anyone who is even considering voting for Labour.

So if you went to university, got a degree and someone in australia offered you 5k more a year, expenses paid etc etc to a job in the UK you would turn it down? Doubt it...

I have nothing against people that work hard to get where they are and if that means working in another country I would do it. I can say now that I wouldnt have the determination like what alot of immigrants do to get where they are, doctors etc so fair play to them.

Heliosphan
3rd April 2010, 14:37
What are your reasonings for being 100% against immigration?

1. Because 8% of the workforce is unemployed which is over 2 million people. Granted, some of these people don't want to work but the answer is to overhaul the benefits system and get these people into work. Importing migrant workers is not the answer in my opinion.

2. The country is already overcrowded and heading for a population of 70 million. Will you still be in favour of letting more people in when you can't get a bed in a NHS hospital or when you're driving your daughter 30 miles to nearest available school?

3. Believe it or not, some people feel uncomfortable about the vast influx of immigrants which creates social tensions and other problems.

+1

There are some very mis-informed statements in this thread.

Im sure those that would vote bnp would soon complain when the price of everything sky rockets, our economy needs immigration, cheap labour, whatever you want to call it.


Yes, and yours is certainly one of them.

craig180
3rd April 2010, 14:47
I love it when people that know bugger all about economics comment in political debate. It's just like the retards that offer advice in the tech sections in here that know bugger all about cars

I know who I'm voting for, and it's based purely on how it will effect ME and my family.

Steve_90
3rd April 2010, 14:49
1. Because 8% of the workforce is unemployed which is over 2 million people. Granted, some of these people don't want to work but the answer is to overhaul the benefits system and get these people into work. Importing migrant workers is not the answer in my opinion.

2. The country is already overcrowded and heading for a population of 70 million. Will you still be in favour of letting more people in when you can't get a bed in a NHS hospital or when you're driving your daughter 30 miles to nearest available school?

3. Believe it or not, some people feel uncomfortable about the vast influx of immigrants which creates social tensions and other problems.

So isn't the solution just controlled and tighter immigration laws?

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 14:53
1. Because 8% of the workforce is unemployed which is over 2 million people. Granted, some of these people don't want to work but the answer is to overhaul the benefits system and get these people into work. Importing migrant workers is not the answer in my opinion.

2. The country is already overcrowded and heading for a population of 70 million. Will you still be in favour of letting more people in when you can't get a bed in a NHS hospital or when you're driving your daughter 30 miles to nearest available school?

3. Believe it or not, some people feel uncomfortable about the vast influx of immigrants which creates social tensions and other problems.

totally agree, I was in a hospital the other day (The accident and emergency section, My Gfs sisters kid broke her arm) anyway were stood behind a Queue of about 6 asian people... Every single one of them coming to ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY for a COUGH AND A SORE THROAT. I mean what the fcuk are they playing at... Since when has a sore throat been an emergency..... And yet where standing there with a kid screaming in pain having to wait for these idiots to get out of the way so the girl can have her BROKEN arm fixed. And some people are ok with having more immigrants over here ?...We also saw One guy was walking around the hospital bare footed ? There were a few disgusted looks let me tell you... People were not happy... Its just not sanitary in a hospital.

craig180
3rd April 2010, 14:54
Lots of narrow minded and quick to judge people on this site

ash-vts
3rd April 2010, 14:57
it doesnt matter which government comes in they willl only f*** the country up more than it already is and take more money off us workers and let more forighners in to take more money outof the country. we all mite asewell boycott the country and live elsewhere.

Heliosphan
3rd April 2010, 14:58
So isn't the solution just controlled and tighter immigration laws?


Labour promised this years ago and still haven't got it right.

Steve_90
3rd April 2010, 14:58
totally agree, I was in a hospital the other day (The accident and emergency section, My Gfs sisters kid broke her arm) anyway were stood behind a Queue of about 6 asian people... Every single one of them coming to ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY for a COUGH AND A SORE THROAT. I mean what the fcuk are they playing at... Since when has a sore throat been an emergency..... And yet where standing there with a kid screaming in pain having to wait for these idiots to get out of the way so the girl can have her BROKEN arm fixed. And some people are ok with having more immigrants over here ?...We also saw One guy was walking around the hospital bare footed ? There were a few disgusted looks let me tell you... People were not happy... Its just not sanitary in a hospital.

Get your head out of your arse and know what you're talking about first.

Steve_90
3rd April 2010, 14:59
it doesnt matter which government comes in they willl only f*** the country up more than it already is and take more money off us workers and let more forighners in to take more money outof the country. we all mite asewell boycott the country and live elsewhere.

That's just a massive contradiction.

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:00
No... usually its just the people who have seen it, are sick of it, Live within it and want change.... I love it when people who live in the fuckin beautiful country side try and make comments about immigration and what we should do when they dont even live in the city.. Dont even see how these people and the government lettin them in are fuckin this place up. Some of these people come from countries swarmed in Rape - Murder and then they get here and think they can still live that lifestyle. Who ever thinks immigration is under control and is a good thing needs to be f**king deported themselves.
The counties over populated, workers are being taxed for fun, immigration means people come over.. work cheap labour... as said in the Film " THIS IS ENGLAND " If immigrants come over and do cheap and easy labour what does that make us ? Cheap and easy ! Countries Fooked and i really dont care what any of you people who disagree with me, I know what i see on a day to day basis where i live. One lottery win and i would be gone, leave this ship to sink !

AshC
3rd April 2010, 15:00
totally agree, I was in a hospital the other day (The accident and emergency section, My Gfs sisters kid broke her arm) anyway were stood behind a Queue of about 6 asian people... Every single one of them coming to ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY for a COUGH AND A SORE THROAT. I mean what the fcuk are they playing at... Since when has a sore throat been an emergency..... And yet where standing there with a kid screaming in pain having to wait for these idiots to get out of the way so the girl can have her BROKEN arm fixed. And some people are ok with having more immigrants over here ?...We also saw One guy was walking around the hospital bare footed ? There were a few disgusted looks let me tell you... People were not happy... Its just not sanitary in a hospital.

You cant just assume it was a sore throat. What if it was affecting there breathing. I would class that more than more serious than a broken arm. Why do you think you are better than them? If they pay tax and national insurance what does it matter whether they are aisan or white?

Lots of narrow minded and quick to judge people on this site

I aggree with you 180, there are ALOT of narrow minded people.

Steve_90
3rd April 2010, 15:05
No... usually its just the people who have seen it, are sick of it, Live within it and want change.... I love it when people who live in the fuckin beautiful country side try and make comments about immigration and what we should do when they dont even live in the city.. Dont even see how these people and the government lettin them in are fuckin this place up. Some of these people come from countries swarmed in Rape - Murder and then they get here and think they can still live that lifestyle. Who ever thinks immigration is under control and is a good thing needs to be f**king deported themselves.
The counties over populated, workers are being taxed for fun, immigration means people come over.. work cheap labour... as said in the Film " THIS IS ENGLAND " If immigrants come over and do cheap and easy labour what does that make us ? Cheap and easy ! Countries Fooked and i really dont care what any of you people who disagree with me, I know what i see on a day to day basis where i live. One lottery win and i would be gone, leave this ship to sink !

So you'd immigrate to country that you could benefit from? Oh ok.

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:06
You cant just assume it was a sore throat. What if it was affecting there breathing. I would class that more than more serious than a broken arm. Why do you think you are better than them? If they pay tax and national insurance what does it matter whether they are aisan or white?


1. It wasnt the kid was fine.. they guy was even like, No jsut a sore throat.. it wasnt just me lookin pissed off, other people were like are they for real ?

2. Cause a lot of them dont, Thats the point lol, Some of them wouldnt know what a national insurance number was if it slapped them in the face !

AshC
3rd April 2010, 15:07
So you'd immigrate to country that you could benefit from? Oh ok.

HAHA, so he would happly live in another country but disagrees when others live in UK..

Steve_90
3rd April 2010, 15:09
2. Cause a lot of them dont, Thats the point lol, Some of them wouldnt know what a national insurance number was if it slapped them in the face !

Same for a lot of English people too. I can't be arsed to go into this with you. Open your fucking eyes a little.

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:10
So you'd immigrate to country that you could benefit from? Oh ok.

No id immigrate to a country where none of this shit goes on, where the government cares about the people... and i would make myself of value.. Not just have 40 kids to claim benefit on every one of them .

Im not even singleing out asian people here... Theres a lot of cultuers exploitingin the system.... I have asian friends, Who work and respect the laws and stuff... Now i respect that.

But also where im from i see people spitting, Un insured drivers running people down, Speeding, Scams, Fake passports, Drivers licenes, all sorts, It all pisses me off !

OK Lets put it this way, This Countries got enough problems of its own without immgriating loads of other people here and making everything else more complicated !

AshC
3rd April 2010, 15:13
1. It wasnt the kid was fine.. they guy was even like, No jsut a sore throat.. it wasnt just me lookin pissed off, other people were like are they for real ?

2. Cause a lot of them dont, Thats the point lol, Some of them wouldnt know what a national insurance number was if it slapped them in the face !

1. If he is paying his tax and national insurance he has the right to go to hospital whether you beleive or not. You dont know the circumstances of his injury or whether it was serious,.

2.How can you generalise them by 'them lot'. Says it all really.

Do you actually know how many white british choose not to work and sponge of the system yet you choose to blame it on immigrants

Same for a lot of English people too. I can't be arsed to go into this with you. Open your fucking eyes a little.

Im glad someone see's sense

craig180
3rd April 2010, 15:16
Less of the personal abuse please dudes. Chill out and give your opinion but don't start getting aggro

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:19
1. If he is paying his tax and national insurance he has the right to go to hospital whether you beleive or not. You dont know the circumstances of his injury or whether it was serious,.

2.How can you generalise them by 'them lot'. Says it all really.

Do you actually know how many white british choose not to work and sponge of the system yet you choose to blame it on immigrants



Im glad someone see's sense

i said a lot of them - Not them lot !

and yeah i agree, british people are doing it too, that pisses me off just as much, But where im from it used to be factories, manufacturing, Birmingham used to be a very important area for things being made and manufactured. Now all the factories are pretty much closed (as mine did when i was made redundant) and theres just an influx of immigrants. Personally i think its you people who need to open your eyes.

Anyway as i say im leaving this here otherwise ill end up banned.. But i know theres people who agree with me.. Trouble is this countries just too fuckin scared to speak up... Lost its backbone !

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:21
HAHA, so he would happly live in another country but disagrees when others live in UK..

i would do all i could to learn their language, Understand there laws and abide by them. Not go there and think i can live how i want :)

Heliosphan
3rd April 2010, 15:23
1. If he is paying his tax and national insurance he has the right to go to hospital whether you beleive or not. You dont know the circumstances of his injury or whether it was serious,.

2.How can you generalise them by 'them lot'. Says it all really.

Do you actually know how many white british choose not to work and sponge of the system yet you choose to blame it on immigrants


Im glad someone see's sense


Would it come as a surprise to learn that as a % more immigrants are unemployed than British.

Don't go down the route of thinking most unemployed Brits are lazy because that's a myth peddled by left wing media and the BBC.

AshC
3rd April 2010, 15:27
Im not saying that there are more british, im saying that people will happily blame immigrants but not say a word about british unemployed and sweep it under the carpet...

Carlvtr88
3rd April 2010, 15:37
Im not saying that there are more british, im saying that people will happily blame immigrants but not say a word about british unemployed and sweep it under the carpet...

i acknowledge the fact that brits do it too AshC... im merely pointing out what I see where I'M from... being in [I]probably not the best area in Brum[I] I See a lot that you guys from nicer areas dont ... and thats what annoys me, Its like come and live here for a bit, watch some of your opinions change!

J222JRA
3rd April 2010, 15:45
I just hope the labour government gets voted out tbh........they have damaged my business and everyone elses alot with their retarded ways.

stinkycheese
3rd April 2010, 17:30
So you'd immigrate to country that you could benefit from? Oh ok.

He'd be taking a lottery win with him. I think the country would be benifiting from him.

Not agreeing with him btw.

Heliosphan
3rd April 2010, 19:08
So if you went to university, got a degree and someone in australia offered you 5k more a year, expenses paid etc etc to a job in the UK you would turn it down? Doubt it...

I have nothing against people that work hard to get where they are and if that means working in another country I would do it. I can say now that I wouldnt have the determination like what alot of immigrants do to get where they are, doctors etc so fair play to them.


(Sorry, I missed this earlier) :wacko:

If any country offered me a golden ticket and was happy to admit me as a migrant worker then yes I'd be off like a shot. Who wouldn't? Despite what you might think, that doesn't make me a hypocrite.

That's because I don't directly blame the immigrants for coming here. I'm blaming the government for allowing and facilitating vast immigration that nobody actually voted for.

Immigration has been forced on the people of this country. Anyone who doesn't like it is dismissed as racist and huge amounts of media propaganda ensure that the population accepts it as being "necessary" - just like you. It's total and utter bollocks.

Tom
3rd April 2010, 19:27
I have to say it's pretty disappointing to see the amount of people who aren't going to vote. Unfortunately you have to choose the best of the worst really but not voting at all isn't going to help anything.

You can't really complain about the government if you don't even try and change things when you are given the opportunity.

Viper
3rd April 2010, 19:38
lol, i hate politics.

I'll vote for whoever my parents vote for

lemon191
4th April 2010, 10:48
imo immigration can benefit the country just look in hospitals how many foreign doctors there are however i have always disagreed with allowing people who havent put anything into the country to claim off it im including immigrants and british people here not just one group thats what needs tightening once thats sorted the amount of immigrants would naturally go down since the benefits of coming here would be harder to claim etc , if say to claim benefits you had to work and pay tax etc for atleast say a year before being able to claim then it would stop people just leaving school and claiming and people fresh off a lorry from doing it aswell there will always be a section of society that would just leave work and claim but i think the % would go down than what it is now or maybe working so many hours a week to claim the money clean up streets or even the simple office jobs depending on the education level of the person

but disability benefits need sorting out aswell i see loads of people claiming money that they do not need or tbh deserve because they can work certain jobs i.e desk job etc i also see people who struggle through doing a normal job with arthritis etc and painfull conditions like that and dont get a penny even though the work is causing pain and more damage

i havent voted in the poll as i am undecided if i am going to vote and if i do dont know who for

Dom
4th April 2010, 11:21
Conservatives need to come into power!

I know they are after all this 'Green stuff' but honestly Labour have put this country down the pan, we need new fresh ideas, someone younger with alot more knowledge then that jock twat that we currently have, im sure he is a nice guy but he don't know how to run the country!

Especially after the Tax rises on middle class families went up during last weeks budget, Gordon n his pal Darling can seriously get the fuck out.

Phils_VTR
4th April 2010, 11:42
lol, i hate politics.

I'll vote for whoever my parents vote for

Same as.

Or I just won't vote.

Really doesn't appeal to me.

JCs_VTR
4th April 2010, 12:51
Lib Dems purely because they will scrap tutition fees at Uni but they wont get in, it will be a hung parliament and nothing will get sorted for ages because nobody will have a majority in Parliament

lemon191
4th April 2010, 15:26
Lib Dems purely because they will scrap tutition fees at Uni but they wont get in, it will be a hung parliament and nothing will get sorted for ages because nobody will have a majority in Parliament

the only issue i have with scrapping tuition fees is more people will go to uni meaning more people searching for the same job so more people with qualifications they cant use when they leave than now imo also i wouldnt have thought companies wouldnt pay as much if there is such a high amount of people to fill the jobs.
it could also open up uni as an option for teh wrong type of people i see loads of friends gone/going to uni for the "life" and doing pointless subjects that they have no plan to usethis cant be a good thing for the genuine people who want to go/be there for the qualification.

Steve_90
4th April 2010, 17:01
the only issue i have with scrapping tuition fees is more people will go to uni meaning more people searching for the same job so more people with qualifications they cant use when they leave than now imo also i wouldnt have thought companies wouldnt pay as much if there is such a high amount of people to fill the jobs.
it could also open up uni as an option for teh wrong type of people i see loads of friends gone/going to uni for the "life" and doing pointless subjects that they have no plan to usethis cant be a good thing for the genuine people who want to go/be there for the qualification.

It wouldn't work like that mate for many reasons. Main one being that a lot of people can't hack it at Uni. A very small percentage of people are put off Uni because of the tuition fees.

lukowski14
4th April 2010, 17:14
Trouble is this countries just too fuckin scared to speak up... Lost its backbone !

that is crap, actually the majority of people have morals

the BNP are a horrible little party led by the most vile of living organisms, labour have made too many mistakes and the conservatives don't seems at all ready to take it all on

i'm voting liberal democrats because in my eyes they have the best policies and the right attitude, sadly they won't come to power this election, or the next election or whatever but it's all about winning seats in parliament and that's why people should vote, it's a shame so many people don't value their vote

liberal democrats website (http://www.libdems.org.uk/)

JCs_VTR
4th April 2010, 19:32
that is crap, actually the majority of people have morals

the BNP are a horrible little party led by the most vile of living organisms, labour have made too many mistakes and the conservatives don't seems at all ready to take it all on

i'm voting liberal democrats because in my eyes they have the best policies and the right attitude, sadly they won't come to power this election, or the next election or whatever but it's all about winning seats in parliament and that's why people should vote, it's a shame so many people don't value their vote

liberal democrats website (http://www.libdems.org.uk/)

I totally agree, lets hope they change the voting system soon for a more proportional representation system then the Lib Dems will stand a decent chance, however if the Tories get in they wont change it

Tony
4th April 2010, 19:41
Labour 7
Lib dem 10
Conservative 38
Other 17
Not voting as they are all the same 27

Interesting results at the time of posting this. Labour having the fewest results of any option and the non voters having the second highest vote!

I am still undecided what I'll do tbh.

Matt1-vts
4th April 2010, 19:44
labour suck,

BNP al the way, only because they been voted for my local area and i must say
its inproved alot,

mik
4th April 2010, 20:01
if you dont want to vote, at least go and spoil paper.. let's em know there all shit,

jonathon5
4th April 2010, 21:32
I would rather vote bnp than labour everytime.

But since bnp have no chance of winning I will vote conservative as there policies are best for a married family man. Labour only wants to tax tax and more fucking tax!

So that they can squander more and more money on red tape and the public sector.

claff
5th April 2010, 17:01
there is no such thing as a wasted vote...

lets say you vote for conservatives and they win by 1 million votes, even if you hadnt voted they still would have won by 999,999 votes so what does it matter? stop beign sheep and just vote for the best policies.. this is why change never happens because people dont vote for it

i myself are going to be voting conservative.

vtrsarah
5th April 2010, 17:13
Well i know who ill be voting for its not on your poll ;) and we all know who votes labour and thats why they keep getting in grr

Heliosphan
5th April 2010, 18:39
lol, i hate politics.

I'll vote for whoever my parents vote for


Voting for whoever your parents vote for is a bit poor isn't it?

If you have no interest in politics, fair enough but I would either not vote or do your fellow countrymen a favour and do the following:

1. Ask your parents which party holds the seat in your voting constituency.
2. If it's Labour, then vote for the party in "2nd place"
3. If it's a party other than Labour, vote for them.

brianS
13th April 2010, 00:14
i havent decided yet, although my postal vote form should be on its way out to me, even on the other side of the world i wouldnt miss voting.
some very brash and senseless comments in this thread though from a variety of people. a very distinct sense of closet racism also.

and as for whoever said about birmingham going to the dogs with its manufacturing etc etc and almost trying to tie that in with the increase in migrants is way off the mark. thats all about big business and profits and money. nothing more nothing less.

Dave89
13th April 2010, 01:18
I personally have no interest in any of the parties views atm, although think I will be voting Conservative as they seem to be the only party that are trying to do something to improve the country.
All IMO of course.

ollie-vt-
13th April 2010, 21:05
gordon brown is useless and labour policies are just crap.


david cameron is slightly less useless than gordy, but it really pisses me off that his entire campaign and policies is just "we are better than brown and labour", with no real policies other than helping out rich people and doing nothing for anyone else.


nick clegg is the only one that talks any sense and the lib dems are the only party that have policies to help out the 'less well off' amongst us, so being a student i will be voting for them.

Gabbastard
13th April 2010, 21:06
whoever the sun newsrag says will get more votes, will get more votes.

Pieface
13th April 2010, 21:10
gordon brown is useless and labour policies are just crap.


david cameron is slightly less useless than gordy, but it really pisses me off that his entire campaign and policies is just "we are better than brown and labour", with no real policies other than helping out rich people and doing nothing for anyone else.


nick clegg is the only one that talks any sense and the lib dems are the only party that have policies to help out the 'less well off' amongst us, so being a student i will be voting for them.

David Cameron doesn't need to do much for his campaign, why lose votes that are easy for you to gain? Gordon Brown is just saying vote for us, or the economy will be screwed, even though him and Darling screwed this country.

Nick Clegg won't be a good leader imo. The thing is, people aren't voting for Clegg, they're voting for Cable. Should have watched Clegg with his interview with Paxman.