:o my cambelts snapped !!!!!!

[x_steph_vts_x]

Driiving in the middle of town 2day and im in the middle lane .. My car cuts out had ppl shouting at me effing and blinding !!
Managed to push it into a car park ... turns out my cambelts snapped :( done something to the valves ...
I loovved my saxo aswelll, now wot do i do ??
Fix it . ?? Sell as spares or repairs . ?? or wot ???

[Paul]

Probably best bet is to whack a new engine in.

Probably bent some valves. Did you try starting it back up once it cut out?

[x_steph_vts_x]

Yes and i no i shudnt off coz it makes it worse my dad says its bent all 16 valves !!
I would get an engine but who to fit it ?? Its a big job

[mardiGRANT]

If the cam belts snapped as above youve most likely bent some valves, its basically pricey either way you go, its either head off and have it sent away to have new valves etc replaced or new engine.

[x_steph_vts_x]

Me dad reckons i need a new head and cambelt and it SHOULD be alriight ... He reckons all 16 valves r bent :(

How much do you think it would be ??

[rey]

If I remember right, I think you can get a 16v head for around £150, not too sure tbh.

[mardiGRANT]

Has he had the head off? It depends where you take it really.

[Paul]

Swapping a VTS engine with another VTS engine from same year is a pretty easy job.

[x_steph_vts_x]

Swapping a VTS engine with another VTS engine from same year is a pretty easy job.

hummmm its just finding one

[Paul]

What year car is yours ?

[mardiGRANT]

ebay or forsale threads on here 106owners 106 rallye they come alot. Ive got a tu5jp4 engine on the bay but wouldnt be a straight swap.

[x_steph_vts_x]

What year car is yours ?

Y Reg ... 2001 I Think

[Paul]

Yeah Y reg is 2001.

Shame, my brothers got a spare 'older-version' engine in the garage that he could of sold you. Will be easier for you to buy a newer 3 plug engine though.

[rey]

The head would work fine though surely Paul?

[sammyd]

gutted to hear this :( hope you get it fixed

[liam-o]

out of interest, how many miles on the clock and had the cam belt been replaced at any point

[Paul]

The head would work fine though surely Paul?

Doubt he would split the engine though :P


Liam-o, its recommended you get the cambelt replaced around 65,000miles.

I'd recommend doing it before then though, around 55,000.

[Predator_R32]

Only way to find out the damage extent is to take the head off and check

[liam-o]

Liam-o, its recommended you get the cambelt replaced around 65,000miles.

I'd recommend doing it before then though, around 55,000.

i know whats recommended, that why i was asking to see whether it went because its long overdue or just randomly :-p

[raunchz]

It's not just mileage that determines whether a cambelt needs doing, it's time too.

Could do 20k in 5years and it'd still need to be done

[x_steph_vts_x]

out of interest, how many miles on the clock and had the cam belt been replaced at any point

It needed doing ... it was overdue
Cars done 106,000 miles quite alot really ive owned it 10 months ... And I don't think its had 1 4 a while :(

My own fault really I should of had it changed but being the dippy girl I am .. I just get in and turn the key and think everything is fine

Oh well im in this mess now ...
Do you think its worth getting a new engine then and having it done .. or selling as spares or repairs ???

[raunchz]

I'd personally look to get a new engine in there.

I wouldn't risk just dropping a new head on, especially if it's tried to start with it gone - would be nervous about the rods. Can drop a good head on but at your risk.

Could drop any 16engine in and use the loom/sensors/Ecu from your current engine. Probably a weekends work to change it over.

[x_steph_vts_x]

I'd personally look to get a new engine in there.

I wouldn't risk just dropping a new head on, especially if it's tried to start with it gone - would be nervous about the rods. Can drop a good head on but at your risk.

Could drop any 16engine in and use the loom/sensors/Ecu from your current engine. Probably a weekends work to change it over.

Thanks for your adviice :y:
Becuase I really don't know what to do lol

[jeffchiz]

my mates cambelt slipped on his vtr he had the cam belt replaced and all 8 valves replaced for about £250 inc labour i think it was, the pistons had dents on them but apparantley they were fine and now its running fine, but he could have just bought a new engine for about £50-100 lol i converted my vtr to a vts in about a week working on it every day for a couple hours if i really spent a good couple days on it i would have got it done its pretty easy, and it'll be easy to find another engine they are all ways up for sale

[x_steph_vts_x]

Gosshh that was a good price
Where did he get that done at ??

The only thing is ive got 16 valves to replace and aparently there a b*****d to do ..
And when his cambelt went, Did he try starting the car ??

[jeffchiz]

Gosshh that was a good price
Where did he get that done at ??

The only thing is ive got 16 valves to replace and aparently there a b*****d to do ..
And when his cambelt went, Did he try starting the car ??

yea he tried starting it for a long time lol but his belt only slipped a couple teeth didn't completely snap but every valve was bent though and like i said his car is running fine i know because i only live a couple doors away from him lol and he had some mobile mechanic to do it, we only live about 25/30miles east of leicester if you really wanted i could try and get his number, he'll be cheaper than any garage, but you'd probably have to pay for him to come out to you and have a look at the engine, but you could call him and have chat with him

[willsy]

I'd personally look to get a new engine in there.

I wouldn't risk just dropping a new head on, especially if it's tried to start with it gone - would be nervous about the rods. Can drop a good head on but at your risk.

Could drop any 16engine in and use the loom/sensors/Ecu from your current engine. Probably a weekends work to change it over.

Im with Ross on this

Any 16v engine will be fine, you'll just need to use your existing engine as a donar and swap over sensors and parts like that.

If you dont know of anyone knowledgeable to help you out though anywhere you go will end up pricey

[x_steph_vts_x]

:( Maybe its easier to just get a new car lol

[jeffchiz]

:( Maybe its easier to just get a new car lol

dont be negative lol for £300 you could have it as good as new if you get your hands dirty lol

[raunchz]

If I was in Loughborough I'd change it over for you - it's not that hard to do, just takes a bit of time.

I'm not back in Loughborough for another 3weeks unfortunately

Someone on here should be able to help I'm sure

[x_steph_vts_x]

I need to find a cheap head for it first not having much luck so far

[raunchz]

Try and check the piston height at tdc to give you an inclination as to whether the rod/s are okay

Shouldn't be too hard to find a head setup on here, someone will come to your rescue!

[16vax]

just change the head the pistons will prob be ok its not that big a job to do the head swap or replace the 16 bent valves head gasket and belt kit
colin

[akuakabucy]

id personally go with the engine swap, as long as you get one that is proven working, such as from a rear ended write off then you have nothing to lose, plus it will definatly work. Just change the cam belt on that one also. Couldnt your dad do it for you? seems that hes mechanically minded?

[Mochachino]

Get a C2 VTS engine on like 30k for £275, use the sensors and wiring loom from your saxo vts, redrill the head for saxo inlet or get the adapter plate from GMC for cable throttle body onto the ali inlet, job done :)

[sqwidge]

I have a VTS engine and box available if your interested, its fully complete with loom, ecu etc, giz a text on 0779076559 if your interested

[sqwidge]

I have a VTS engine and box available if your interested, its fully complete with loom, ecu etc, giz a text on 0779076559 if your interested

07792076559 sorry typo

[raunchz]

Get a C2 VTS engine on like 30k for £275, use the sensors and wiring loom from your saxo vts, redrill the head for saxo inlet or get the adapter plate from GMC for cable throttle body onto the ali inlet, job done :)

£275 for the engine with the ali inlet would be a bargain !!!

Just the inlet costs that alone, let alone a nice jp4 head to go with it :P

[Mochachino]

£275 for the engine with the ali inlet would be a bargain !!!

Just the inlet costs that alone, let alone a nice jp4 head to go with it :P

PMing you mate, its £300 with everything sorted for a Saxo or £275 for the basics with the work left for you to sort out ;)

[Meto]

My 1.1 is only on 30k on an 03 plate. REALLY need to get mine changed tbh. A 7 year old cambelt is a timebomb im afraid!

[raunchz]

My 1.1 is only on 30k on an 03 plate. REALLY need to get mine changed tbh. A 7 year old cambelt is a timebomb im afraid!

Get it changed asap

[Tringaling]

Sorry to hear that, sounds annoying!

Good luck :)

[MiDnighTcLuB]

mine on 69k and it's a 51 plate , i have no idea if it's ever been done but i'm hoping so :D ,, from the marks on the cambelt cover it's looking promising tho , will have to search throguh my service history and see if they have..

[Liam_]

Mine's an '03' plate on 38k - been told by a Pug/ Cit specialist to leave it for a bit longer. Probably get it done in a years time.

[MiDnighTcLuB]

when i worked at my garage the computers said to get it changed either every 75,000 in normal circumstances or 65,000 in extreme circumstances or every 10 years which ever comes first

[johnr32]

when i worked at my garage the computers said to get it changed either every 75,000 in normal circumstances or 65,000 in extreme circumstances or every 10 years which ever comes first

The computer is right. I think the saxo's handbook recommends the same as above.

[citroen_saxo_vtr]

First things first ladies! How do you know its bent valves? get it timed up and a new cambelt, you maybe a lucky girl and it start without bent valves, the worst that can happen is it then smash the valves up, either way your going to need a new head. Im going to get a 16v engine with a snapped cambelt and rebuild it, its not that hard to do if you put your brain into it.

[liam-o]

haynes recommends 80k miles, i had mine done at 75k, (i bought it on 73k)

like said above, id change the engine, i know once my VTR dies (hopefully not for another year) im going to be dropping a VTS in

[mc_neat]

omg cnt bleive it..was u at mfn like 2 weeks ago on the opening night?i think i came to talk to u? had tht vts with black bonnet..i thought urs was pretty smart..i think you should get another engine in it...if you have a look at the for sale section on here ther is a few engines going for sale..and shudnt cost all tht much for a mechanic to drop it in for u..

[DavidsVTR]

Yerr it would have Fcuked ur enginee

Happened to my bros fiesta and wasnt worth the repair.. but then again.. it was a only fiesta :D

[x_steph_vts_x]

omg cnt bleive it..was u at mfn like 2 weeks ago on the opening night?i think i came to talk to u? had tht vts with black bonnet..i thought urs was pretty smart..i think you should get another engine in it...if you have a look at the for sale section on here ther is a few engines going for sale..and shudnt cost all tht much for a mechanic to drop it in for u..

Yeahh that was me lol ....

Errm well ive decided to strip it down this weekend ... See what the damage is, get a new head for it and fitted should be ok agen then :) ...
Its too good to scrap .. I paid 1600 for it 9 months ago and its just got 12 months m.o.t on it !! ...

My advice to people though .. Make sure you have a cambelt change at so many miles .. You think they will never snap but if you do alot of miles like me then you could end up in my mess !!

[Tringaling]

Yeahh that was me lol ....

Errm well ive decided to strip it down this weekend ... See what the damage is, get a new head for it and fitted should be ok agen then :) ...
Its too good to scrap .. I paid 1600 for it 9 months ago and its just got 12 months m.o.t on it !! ...

My advice to people though .. Make sure you have a cambelt change at so many miles .. You think they will never snap but if you do alot of miles like me then you could end up in my mess !!

Ill definately bare that in mind, hope it all goes ok :y:

Let us know though ;)

[x_steph_vts_x]

I will keep everyone updated

[jonsey]

shit im hopfully gettin mine done soon! was going to buy a manifold first but reading this im definatly going to get my cambelt changed!
i love my car too much to see it fuck up!
gutted to hear about thid though =[

[Railroader]

Theres a VTS engine on this site

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304693

Have you see it? Isle of Wight though

[mc_neat]

ye just had mine dun 200 miles ago..and thnx for the add

[Saxo-Mikey]

yeah, ill need to get mine changed soon. my car '01' y reg has done almost 150k and im not too sure when it was actually changed. ive done 10k miles in the past 6 months so i recon it will be the next thing on my list knowing my luck with having soo much parts going such as the driveshaft and last week it was the brakes!

[x_steph_vts_x]

Id deffo get them changed when you can :)

[Saxo-Mikey]

Id deffo get them changed when you can :)

yeah, lol. ive had someone who wanted £300 to get it changed......was a bit on the pricey side if you ask me....

[kyle4256]

i have a spare head for sale came off a 2000 plate but would fit urs no bother its been skimmed recently

[x_steph_vts_x]

I dont need one now
Shes back on the road after 6 loooooong weeks :D

[SnakeVTR]

nice, but now im paranoid about mine, just bought the car its on 130k lol, im a mechanic so can do it myself but never have the time :( , i better drive slow lol

[JonCarter]

Driiving in the middle of town 2day and im in the middle lane .. My car cuts out had ppl shouting at me effing and blinding !!
Managed to push it into a car park ... turns out my cambelts snapped :( done something to the valves ...
I loovved my saxo aswelll, now wot do i do ??
Fix it . ?? Sell as spares or repairs . ?? or wot ???

Why does everyone bin there cars when they bend a valve to two?? i did my mates 16v clio its a average job imo then again ive trained to be a mechanic... its a job woth doing dont bin a VTS :'( get a new lump or fix it please!

[Railroader]

I dont need one now
Shes back on the road after 6 loooooong weeks :D

So how did you get it fixed? You said you would keep us updated!

[warner88vts]

ouch not good try find another head or put new valves in it