car wont start ignition barrel?

[Gazer]

right started my car the other day and it was running fine for about 2mins then it just cut out and since then i dont get no lights on the dash when on the second click only get the battery light which comes on the first turn and stays on the second the car will turn over on the third turn as usual but aint got no power going to coil pack or fuel pump or the dash board lights also the fuel gauge or temp gauge battery its self is fine aint flat dont even get the imobilser light on the dash could it be that there is a problem with the second turn on the switch on the igniton barrel i checked all the fuses and relays and there fine. if im reading the haynes manual right the power has to go though the ignition barrel before goes to the ecu, also needs to go through the ignition barrel to go to the dash cluster is that correct?
am pritty sure it not a ecu problem as power aint getting to it as far as i know
would it be worth changing the switch before i get a mechanic out to look at it?
soz for the SA haha need it sorting though :(

[saxovtsnap]

jump leads first choice try that then come back to me ill help you mate .........

[Gazer]

jump leads first choice try that then come back to me ill help you mate .........

i got one of them battery charger/starters could i use that as cant reach were the car is atm lol :/

[saxovtsnap]

yes mate try that see if it starts do it noww mate ill wait online when its starts dont take the pack off!!!!

[saxovtsnap]

bump :)

[Gazer]

okay will try :)

[saxovtsnap]

you trying it now bud

[Gazer]

tryed no luck was saying was fully charged

[saxovtsnap]

okey so when you turn the key all the way theres nout there yeah

[Gazer]

when i turn it all the way the car will turn over with no probs at all i just aint getting no spark no fuel pump prime or no dash lights what so ever apart from my battery light which comes on the first click and the second

[saxovtsnap]

is the starter motor turning over have you check all fuses and plugs.check the coil pack dead smack in the middle behind the oil cap there a plug .

[saxovtsnap]

does the engine run or not if soo i would change the coil pack mate that plugs into your spark plugs give that ago .ive neaver had this problem before....if your saying its turning over but not fireing up up i would say coil pack ive got 3 spare but your far away mate

[Gazer]

i get what your saying but i aint getting no fuel pump prime or dash lights dont think a coil pack would stop them its as if there is a fault somewhere but i dont want to take it to the dealer for them to look at it cuz i know there not cheap so wanted to see if could get some help on here :/

[saxovtsnap]

does the battery lite go out when engine has started

[Gazer]

well it usually did i duno now cuz it dont start lol
sure it goes out when i try turning it over

[saxovtsnap]

check under the bonett on the rite hand these a fuse box check them fuse,s mate its a mad one as im not sure why it wont run it should stay runing when turn over bud .ppus these a black box just behind the battery above these a black box undo it these 5 big fuse check them ...

[saxovtsnap]

your see a red rubber gromet kind of thing lol beside that is a black box check them tooooo good luck :)

[Gazer]

ive checked and rechecked every fuse and relays twice and there all fine
and i know dont know what else to try know :/

[Gazer]

anyone else wanna take a guess lol?

[Skootay]

That red Grommit type thing is a reset botton for something or so i was told today, my old man had one on his renult kangoo, that had the same symptoms and that fixed it. worth a push?

[Gazer]

That red Grommit type thing is a reset botton for something or so i was told today, my old man had one on his renult kangoo, that had the same symptoms and that fixed it. worth a push?

lol i wish mate was the first thing i acually tryed and have tryed again since then :/

[willchavy]

mate this is a guese what about the spark plugs ?

[willchavy]

try replacing them ngk ones from halford 20 quid set of 4 :D

[willchavy]

try the spark plugs mate

[willchavy]

or fuel pump might not be getting enough fuel into engine to make exlostion

[Gazer]

or fuel pump might not be getting enough fuel into engine to make exlostion

no power is going to either the fuel pump or the coil pack so there a problem before them somewhere

[kaneo779]

i had nerly the same problem with mine mate, same year and everything. after a few days of checking everything it turned out to be the ignition live to my coil pack (it runs spark primes fuel pump and works injectors) if youve got a leccy tester take the plug off your coil pack and find the ignition live out of the 4 connecters in the plug (mine is the 1st connector if you count them from the driver side) push a thin wire into it and put the plug back onto the coil pack and then with the other end of the wire touch it on the battery for about 5 seconds (get someone to sit in the car and listen for the fuel pump priming) if it does you just need to find a new ignition live to wire your plug to... but if not i would check your earths from engine to car.. sorry if this is a bit confusing but its the easiest way i can explane it lol, hope it helps mate

[Gazer]

i had nerly the same problem with mine mate, same year and everything. after a few days of checking everything it turned out to be the ignition live to my coil pack (it runs spark primes fuel pump and works injectors) if youve got a leccy tester take the plug off your coil pack and find the ignition live out of the 4 connecters in the plug (mine is the 1st connector if you count them from the driver side) push a thin wire into it and put the plug back onto the coil pack and then with the other end of the wire touch it on the battery for about 5 seconds (get someone to sit in the car and listen for the fuel pump priming) if it does you just need to find a new ignition live to wire your plug to... but if not i would check your earths from engine to car.. sorry if this is a bit confusing but its the easiest way i can explane it lol, hope it helps mate

right im following what ya saying did you have your dash lights on though?

[kaneo779]

no i dont think i did mate, if its not either of the problems above all i can think of is immobiliser or ecu, i would give what i explained in the last post a go coz it sounds very similar to the problem i had, and its an easy fix if it is just a dodgy ignition live. if you try it and its not that just either pm me or just write back on here and i'll keep checking the post and try n talk u through anything else it could be.

[Gazer]

no i dont think i did mate, if its not either of the problems above all i can think of is immobiliser or ecu, i would give what i explained in the last post a go coz it sounds very similar to the problem i had, and its an easy fix if it is just a dodgy ignition live. if you try it and its not that just either pm me or just write back on here and i'll keep checking the post and try n talk u through anything else it could be.

nice one will have a try tomorrow see if it that

[kaneo779]

any luck mate?

[Gazer]

any luck mate?

oh yeah fixed it mate was the igniton switch that had gone i just disconnected my one then plugged the new one in and put my key in the ignition and used a screw driver to turn the switch then when it started was like YES!!!!!!!!! then took it all off put that one on back together job done took like 30mins to do :y: nice one though was gonna try that next if wasnt that :)