Sparco_Tom Mis-Described Item

[bald24]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306224

Was assured in the thread that the sensor was new, and he'd get it to me by my MOT, the sensor isn't new and the cable arrived 2 days After my MOT test date.
He has since decided to post on the forum, but not to reply to my PM's.

*Edited to Change Title*

[Nuve]

join the club mate

[P90PTS]

Nothing he can do if he's posted it before your MOT, it's in the hands of RM once it's in the post.

[bald24]

Fair enough on that point, but I paid him on the Friday before, and it didn't arrive until Saturday afterwoods.

And that fact that he told me it was new is still there.

[Sparco_Tom]

:) i said it was like new as it had only covered a few miles. Jesus what is up with people this week.

[liam-o]

:) i said it was like new as it had only covered a few miles. Jesus what is up with people this week.

thats not quite new... thats like only wearing boxers once and selling them as new :homme:

[bald24]

Tell me where you told me that it was near new before you sold it to me mate.

[willo-1]

:) i said it was like new as it had only covered a few miles. Jesus what is up with people this week.

agree buddy people on here dish out threats and complaints to easy now

[saxo-parts]

keep your chin up sparco!!!

[bald24]

agree buddy people on here dish out threats and complaints to easy now

Regardless on whether it's covered 1 mile or 100,000. Its still not new and I paid for a new one. It arrived late and was a waste of money from the start.

As he cannot provide me with any evidence that he told me that it was new he can actually admit being wrong instead of telling everyone to grow up and refund me!

[Sparco_Tom]

i wont be refunding you. end of

[bald24]

I'm afraid I wont be dropping this mate. You have provided incorrect information and are now being arrogant.

[P90PTS]

Tom when did you dispatch this item?

Like i've said, if the item was dispatched in plenty of time before your MOT then its RM's cock up.

But on the flipside, if it was so desperately needed for an MOT why not source one from Citreon/Scrappy?

[Sparco_Tom]

talk to a brick wall then. The item was sent in plenty of time to get to you before the mot. Why bother with me when your mate had one you could borrow anyways

[bald24]

Currently looking into the small claims court mate. It's not the money anymore its the fact that you don't care.
I don't get conned or messed around with so grow up and stop using childish cliché's

[P90PTS]

The cost for you to go to a small claims court over 15quid is absolutely pointless.

[Sparco_Tom]

Feel free it will never stand up

[MikeYost]

Oh dear.. if it was sold as "new" and wasnt new then Tom your in the wrong.. but if it was sold as "Nearly new" and still worked then you havent got a leg to stand on ;/

[bald24]

Was sold as new, arrived used.

I've now opened a Paypal Dispute.

[SNewham]

Good luck with that.

[liam-o]

Is your sensor new and off a 3 socket ecu? :)

yes it is

just for the benefit of people reading

[Mochachino]

:) i said it was like new as it had only covered a few miles. Jesus what is up with people this week.

Ino ive had a few this week, i hadnt logged in for 1 day therefore not replied to an inbox and they open a dispute :S impatiant cunts.

thats not quite new... thats like only wearing boxers once and selling them as new :homme:

hense why he didnt sell it as new? He sold it as like new, as he put on the previous post to you?

[Mochachino]

just for the benefit of people reading

dosent say yes it is to it being new or the 3plug bit? therefore could have been for the 3plug bit only... poeple would confirm its new if they really wanted it to be new from reading that reply by tom..

Its all just common sense in my mind.

[bald24]

dosent say yes it is to it being new or the 3plug bit? therefore could have been for the 3plug bit only... poeple would confirm its new if they really wanted it to be new from reading that reply by tom..

Its all just common sense in my mind.

Normally when you ask someone a question, and they reply with yes. You take that answer, you don't doubt it and ask them again ;)

[Mochachino]

Normally when you ask someone a question, and they reply with yes. You take that answer, you don't doubt it and ask them again ;)

Usually if i ask 2 questions or 3 or whatever and they reply with yes... then il be wondering what the yes was to.

[mranniversary]

its £15 mate. get over it. sparco didnt scam you because he sent the part. whether its new or not it works so stop whinging, if its no use to you then put it in the for sale section.

[MikeYost]

its £15 mate. get over it. sparco didnt scam you because he sent the part. whether its new or not it works so stop whinging, if its no use to you then put it in the for sale section.


Check you out, if its only £15 can you send me some? Wouldn't mind some free cash. I'd advise you to think before you post, rash comments such as the above won't get you very far.


Lets turn this on its head, if you bought something advertised as new, you got it and it was used, surely you'd be pissed off? Granted, it is a small amount of money, but its more the principle of someone basically lying to get your money..

[mranniversary]

did he lie? the quote above suggests not. he asked two questions and got one answer. why would a member with over 12,000 posts really be that bothered about 'stealing' £15. Its not even stealing becausehe sent the part and there was abit of confusion about it being new or not. If it works then hey ho does it really matter, its not as thought hes spent £500 on a new engine and its a dud. just take it on the chin and move on. I dont really think he can be branded a 'scammer' tbh.

[Ashleyp]

No offence. but people are quite retarded

2 questions with one answer yes implies that the word "yes" covers both answers

unless anyones trying to be anal, and clever only aiming the whole answer at one question (without clearly stating that) which would mean they have something to hide, ie theyre not being as truthful about the sale as the buyer would like to beleive.

scammed? no i dont think so. the part is there and is useable alebeit not fully as described. technically the buyer could have asked for a pic. its pretty clear theres "fault" from both sides

but a thread full of idiots? yes.

[MikeYost]

I'm not out to slate Sparco_Tom, ive spoke to him on the odd occasion and had no problems.. if someone answers yes to multiple questions i'd assume they were saying yes to all of them lol. Perhaps the buyer should check check and check again (i always do!) but as a seller it's also right for you to clarify you have what the buyer wants. (When selling I often send a picture just to be 100% certain I have the correct part for the buyer!)

In all honesty, it's nothing to do with either of us.. Lets let them get on with it ;)

I hope it gets sorted either way..

Mike

[bald24]

I've changed the title, as I agree that I haven't been scammed, but I still remain with what I'm saying about getting the money back.

[mranniversary]

full agree with both of you. but this kid seems to be taking the mick abit saying i've started court proceedings haha. some people.

[Robbie-Flat-Arch]

quick whos next to put the boot into tom lol seems like hes getting it all tonight, and a sensor is about 50 pound new and u payed 15 for a hardly used one i would still say its a fair price

[bald24]

quick whos next to put the boot into tom lol seems like hes getting it all tonight, and a sensor is about 50 pound new and u payed 15 for a hardly used one i would still say its a fair price

Bless.

[Flatarch]

As long as it works and still functions does it even matter if its new?

Hope it failed MOT

[Robbie-Flat-Arch]

Bless.

what u mean

[Ashleyp]

Wind your necks in kids

the lad has his problem which he is trying to resolve with tom. the immature arse licking / general retarded comments arent aiding the situation or your credibility as decent people.

[Flatarch]

Wind your necks in kids

the lad has his problem which he is trying to resolve with tom. the immature arse licking comments arent aiding the situation.

Wannabe mod. Shutup

[mranniversary]

hes taking the piss mate.. i doubt his balls have even dropped yet.

[Ashleyp]

Wannabe mod. Shutup

really? i wish to be a mod?

No, i don't.

please, return to school and educate yourself further before acting in more of a retarded manner

[bald24]

As long as it works and still functions does it even matter if its new?

Hope it failed MOT

It passed mate, thanks anyway :)

[Robbie-Flat-Arch]

so whats ur problem if it passed?

[Flatarch]

really? i wish to be a mod?

No, i don't.

please, return to school and educate yourself further before acting in more of a retarded manner

I'm still at school.

[-Jason-]

Wannabe mod. Shutup

Bahahaha and who the fuck are you lol.

Tbh sparco is a reputable member and I have full confidence that he is not in the wrong

[Tontsy]

where in that thread does it say
"sparco says : ok hai! this lambda is nezwz!"

no doesnt.
thanks

on that note, ive never had a prob with tom, and ive dealt with him many times, and been more than satisfied each time!

[James106]

Jesus christ man! It works don't it? then stfu!

[johnlambert]

wow i cant believe this is happening!!
if it does go through it will be a total waste of the claims courts day.

from what i know tom is a v nice guy and knows 100% what hes doing.

i think your over reacting dude
i know at the end of the day money is money but cmon..

[bald24]

I couldn't give a flying shit if it works or not. I've asked for a refund as he told me it was new and it wasn't, and he replies in a way where he doesn't want to know. Yet the large majority here all lick his arse cos of his postcount?

I ask if its new
He says yes
It arrives
Not New
Money Back

and I'm in the wrong? :y:

[bald24]

wow i cant believe this is happening!!
if it does go through it will be a total waste of the claims courts day.

from what i know tom is a v nice guy and knows 100% what hes doing.

i think your over reacting dude
i know at the end of the day money is money but cmon..

I've opened a Paypal Dispute in the hope that this will resolve the issue. Money is money, and in my eyes I'm £15 down. Fair enough he has sold to many people and has a good reputation, but obviously nobody is perfect and just happens to be with me that mistakes have been made.

[makaveli144]

I've opened a Paypal Dispute in the hope that this will resolve the issue. Money is money, and in my eyes I'm £15 down. Fair enough he has sold to many people and has a good reputation, but obviously nobody is perfect and just happens to be with me that mistakes have been made.

How on earth are you £15 down? You got the part you clown, so you got what you paid for, and it passed the mot. If anything your the scammer as you are trying to get the money back and you have the part.

[Sparco_Tom]

You want your money back? Then give me my sensor back. Minus my fuel time and effort sending it to you. £10 in return.

I pm'd you and told you it was from a 3plug car and was like new.

*heads to paypal your a cu........*

[Mochachino]

No offence. but people are quite retarded

2 questions with one answer yes implies that the word "yes" covers both answers

unless anyones trying to be anal, and clever only aiming the whole answer at one question (without clearly stating that) which would mean they have something to hide, ie theyre not being as truthful about the sale as the buyer would like to beleive.

scammed? no i dont think so. the part is there and is useable alebeit not fully as described. technically the buyer could have asked for a pic. its pretty clear theres "fault" from both sides

but a thread full of idiots? yes.

I havnt said a bad word against you or had anything against you till now.

but

/twat ashley

If i was buying this sensor and i got that answer i know i definatly wouldnt just go by that answer for both.

Thread full of idiots? Cool.

Persoanlly think saxp has had it now apart from a few.

[FairDoos]

This thread has lost me now?

So whats your aim?

Try and get a refund? - I dont see how that would be possible i mean you got your item your car passed its MOT now im just be-wilded on what your actual problem is? Its just like for instanse i buy a game i go home play it, complete it then take it back and ask for a refund..?

[stinkycheese]

He'll do the same thing next year when his MOT is due

[Sparco_Tom]

Frankly this is a joke

[FairDoos]

Frankly this is a joke

+1 but i don't see it as the funny kind.. :wall:

[Flatarch]

Bahahaha and who the fuck are you lol.

Tbh sparco is a reputable member and I have full confidence that he is not in the wrong

Wasnt talking about tom lol

[Sparco_Tom]

dude did you have fun with the civic on monday along the a41?

[stinkycheese]

Awesome road :D

[Sparco_Tom]

indeed it is

[Flatarch]

Fuck the woman driving that type-r

[Sparco_Tom]

what my missus?

[Flatarch]

what my missus?

If you say so

[Alanapone]

Holy crap! are you lot still on here? i saw this about 10 minutes after the first post and have just checked back now... 4 PAGES!!! get to bed and stop moaning. I've followed a lot of sparco_tom's sales and theres never been a problem and from what i've read here theres no problem OR case for a paypal dispute. imo paypal will not do anything as the lad has his sensor that works and tom has his money. can we all go to bed now and wait to see if our taxes are going to go through the roof tomorrow :( lol

[Sparco_Tom]

If you say so

well im laying in bed with her now, she's reading this lol.

smooth over take in the centre of town...........

[Flatarch]

well im laying in bed with her now, she's reading this lol.

smooth over take in the centre of town...........

Ouch, nice slowing down till i tried to pass lol

Your type r?

[Sparco_Tom]

was abit of a giggle. :y: motor looked smart for a flat arch

[Flatarch]

was abit of a giggle. :y: motor looked smart for a flat arch

lol yea tried making the most of the hills, failed miserably. and cheers :)

[Sparco_Tom]

Lol they just wern't steep enough.