noise from vts gearbox!!!!!!

[dan84]

hi guys, got a 1997 saxo vts, there's a funny noise coming from the gearbox when stationary, if u press the clutch in it goes, doesn't sound like the thrust bearing, more of a tappy noise, any ideas????? cheers

[sprint_gti]

does it make any noises when moving along.

[mango-furio]

sounds like realease bearings on its way out to me if it goes when you press clutch

[dave_1]

i had something like this a few weeks ago the garage drained the gear box and some thin fell out unfortunatly they didnt keep the oil so i never found out what the noice was

[maddison_vts]

as said it could be the release bearing but it could also be the input shaft bearing as they are quite known for packing up

[dan84]

yeah it makes the same noise when i'm moving, the noise only goes when i press the clutch. might change the oil and see where that takes me. how easy is it to remove the gearbox if i decide to take things further???

[raunchz]

Sounds suspiciously like clutch release bearing.......

[ashleyoneill]

Sounds suspiciously like clutch release bearing.......

As above.

[jon748]

clutch relese bearing will turn more when clutch pressed mate more likely problem with the box as when clutch depressed gearbox stops turning bearing should not turn when clutch up unless badly adjusted

[ashleyoneill]

clutch relese bearing will turn more when clutch pressed mate more likely problem with the box as when clutch depressed gearbox stops turning bearing should not turn when clutch up unless badly adjusted

I disagree.

When the clutch is engaged (foot off pedal) the release bearing is more noisy because it is not under pressure against the pressure plate cover so it spins and rattles.

When the clutch is disengaged (foot on pedal) the release bearing is pressed with quite a lot of pressure against the pressure plate cover so it stops is rattling so much.

In my opinion the clutch release bearing is much more common than gearbox input shaft bearing and almost everyone i know including me (2 saxos, 3 release bearing failures) has this problem at some point.

Hope that helps!

[BezzaB]

I have this problem on my 51 plate, aparently my box is shot but it does make noises when driving. if this helps at all..

[Lew_C]

input shaft bearing or clutch release bearing.. seems every saxo to date is suffering from this problem. lol

[dan84]

cheers everyone who commented, gonna remove the gearbox tomoz and see whats occuring, will it look obvious if the release bearing is at fault? what am i looking for????

[BobC]

Hi Dan,

Good luck, check here: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314531

In the first two pictures of the release bearing the metal ring is the release bearing race that presses on the pressure plate. If it looks like these its knackered. If you try to rotate that metal race with your finger it MUST feel smooth any feelings of notchy operation also means its knackered.

Bob

[141chris141]

thrust bearing fact and i bet the fork is bent also
saxos are lovely cars to look at but thats it ther shit drivers

[jon748]

im a mechanic with 20 years experience clutch bearing should not spin all the time unless it the kind imersed in gearbox oil or its not adjusted properly the small amount of grease in them would only last 5 mins at engine revs all day every day take the box out mate it could be there is a prob with bearing hope so for your sake but if its correctly adjusted more likely to be the box

[dan84]

put the car on axle stands yesterday and with the wheels off i put it in gear with tyhe engine running so i could hear the gearbox moving, theres a squealing noise coming from somewhere! gonna take the box off today and see whats what! and ideas what i might find??

[DJDannyB]

probably wont find anything without taking the box apart, unless its the clutch release bearing like most people have said..

[scottyr_VTR]

definatley clutch plate release bearing.
just had to do it to mine. can only tell when you have the full box of it

scotty r

[dan84]

right, the gearbox is off, the release bearing looks like its seen better days, should it have any play in it cos mine has quite alot??

[reeves89]

shuld be quite firm from wat i remember, put a decent one on there as i did mine a few months back a its noisy all ready that was a cheap euro parts 1

[jon748]

spin the bearing by hand if its fooked it will be rough and noisey

[dan84]

it stops spinning as soon as i take my hand off it, does that mean its nackered??!!

[jon748]

no it should stop if there is some grease still in it but if fooked it will feel rough to turn

[LeeM]

bearing on the input shaft. i had it and thought it was the engine tapping until i noticed it went with the clutch depressed. new box and it was all good.

[dan84]

can i not just replace the bearing on the input shaft then?