Are you paying too much for your V Power?

[MikeCracknell]

Then spare a thought for a moment.

I filled up with Shell's finest V Power today on the Autoroute at:

€1,55 per LITRE (About £1,41)

:panic::panic::panic::panic:

Back to 95 for the next week I think lol!

[wadoryu]

:fcuk:

[auds]

Blimey I pay £1.21 I think :D

[CHIP]

My car never seems to like fancy petrol :S lol

[Maxamus]

£1.26 I paid last week I think

[Furio-Gazza]

ive never really put this v power stuff in, does it make any diff to the engine at all?? ive never wanted to risk fucking my car up as its always in the garage lol
but ive been told it helps the car run better

[moxy89]

since owning my vts 2 years i have never put anything else in other than v power. filled it up today at £1.24 per litre

[Maxamus]

Yeh runs better, Cleans fuel system, And i think better MPG...? Correct me if im wrong..

[Furio-Gazza]

really :O my saxo is rather poor on fuel, but tbh its probs my heavy foot, so this v power is defo worth buying?

[Morgzc]

Does it really make any difference on a car with 120bhp. I remember thay tested this and on a 300bhp scooby it only added about 8 bhp.
EDIT: Looks like my question has been answered

[K17NEY]

Yeh runs better, Cleans fuel system, And i think better MPG...? Correct me if im wrong..

yeah,,it burns easier and cleaner so less is wasted meaning better mpg.

[carter]

you wont see a noticable difference on a saxo

[Furio-Gazza]

yeah,,it burns easier and cleaner so less is wasted meaning better mpg.

my dad has gone on about this, my dad used v power but then started on normal morrisons rubbish then few weeks down the line its booked in at demon tweeks for a new fuel pump hmmm
looks like ill be getting some super unleaded from now on

[MiniGibbo]

There's a lot of myth flying around about it being "better" but the bottom line is unless your car is mapped to run 99ron is does fuck all apart from cost more.

[Morgzc]

yeah,,it burns easier and cleaner so less is wasted meaning better mpg.

I though a higher octane rating meant it was harder to burn to there was less chance of premature combustion?

[auds]

Yeh runs better, Cleans fuel system, And i think better MPG...? Correct me if im wrong..

true and goes a lil faster too, well I think so lol :P

[Peter_D]

There's a lot of myth flying around about it being "better" but the bottom line is unless your car is mapped to run 99ron is does fuck all apart from cost more.

+1 million

[K17NEY]

There's a lot of myth flying around about it being "better" but the bottom line is unless your car is mapped to run 99ron is does fuck all apart from cost more.

I always run my car on super,if i put normal fuel in i notice the difference.Just like the difference you get between hot and cold weather.

[saxochap]

If your going to run on 99 Ron fuel then you need a remap as most cars are mapped to run on 97 Ron.

[french_baguette]

yeah,,it burns easier and cleaner so less is wasted meaning better mpg.

Actually it's harder to burn, higher octane fuel is less easy to ignite.

[dannyboy2005]

Why do you put 99RON into your shi7ty tin can'd engines? Its a waste of money. Unless you have a high performance car like a scooby then its worth it.

They did a test on this crap in the which magazine and said exactly what i have said above. Though they did say fill up with V-Power every few month's to clean the injectors and crap out as its cheaper then red-ex.

I might run on the new fuel... 101 RON

[Peter_D]

I always run my car on super,if i put normal fuel in i notice the difference.Just like the difference you get between hot and cold weather.

Placebo effect, Kit lad ;)

[KINGVTS]

since owning my vts 2 years i have never put anything else in other than v power. filled it up today at £1.24 per litre

was this in soton?

[Chloeex]

was this in soton?

+1.. ive only seen £1.13-£1.20 everywhere i go in southampton

[KINGVTS]

+1.. ive only seen £1.13-£1.20 everywhere i go in southampton

i think thats normal unleded at those costs

[Chloeex]

i think thats normal unleded at those costs

i mean all of them that ive seen when ive driving past not just unleaded, not seen anything higher i dont think

[K17NEY]

Placebo effect, Kit lad ;)

Blah blah blah

[Morgzc]

Blah blah blah

Really think you would notice a 2bhp diff?

[K17NEY]

Really think you would notice a 2bhp diff?

diffs dont give you hp mate...

[Peter_D]

V-power is only ideal for engines with VTEC, doesn't really benefit anything else

[Morgzc]

diffs dont give you hp mate...

erence

[MiniGibbo]

V-power is only ideal for engines with VTEC, doesn't really benefit anything else

All "M" engines are mapped for 99 ron also :)

[K17NEY]

V-power is only ideal for engines with VTEC, doesn't really benefit anything else

and cars with electric superchargers and ecotec valves

terence

[Peter_D]

All "M" engines are mapped for 99 ron also :)

I know i was joking :zainy:

[K17NEY]

I know i was joking :zainy:

Genuine question: are vtecs mapped for 99?

[johnr32]

They did a test on this crap in the which magazine and said exactly what i have said above. Though they did say fill up with V-Power every few month's to clean the injectors and crap out as its cheaper then red-ex.




I fill up a full tank of v power probably a couple of times a month for that reason.

[Peter_D]

Genuine question: are vtecs mapped for 99?

The DC5 is mapped for super and id magine EK9 and DC2 and the others would be, but not sure about UKDM cars like the Civic EP3 and such

[K17NEY]

The DC5 is mapped for super and id magine EK9 and DC2 and the others would be, but not sure about UKDM cars like the Civic EP3 and such
:y:

is it true that if you dont run 99 the vtec wont work??

yes..i am being a wind up cunt

[Peter_D]

:y:

is it true that if you dont run 99 the vtec wont work??

yes..i am being a wind up cunt

This is why i love you

[K17NEY]

This is why i love you

:hug::hug::hug:

thats sigworthy that is

[MikeCracknell]

I can tell you now for a fact, that i have run the 197 on Normal unleaded for 6 months, and on v power/super unleaded (99 RON) for 5 1/2 months, and the VPower/Super gives about 1-2 MPG better.

I have vast records that show that too :):):);)

[carter]

I can tell you now for a fact, that i have run the 197 on Normal unleaded for 6 months, and on v power/super unleaded (99 RON) for 5 1/2 months, and the VPower/Super gives about 1-2 MPG better.

I have vast records that show that too :):):);)

isit really worth it though?

[Morgzc]

isit really worth it though?
Just worked out at 40mpg with reguler you are paying £0.129449966 per mile (113.9p per litre as I pay at asda)
With optimax or whatever with an extra 2 mpg (as claimed by mike) you are paying £0.135192113 per mile (124.9 as I think someone mentioned earlier)
Optifail looses.

[Peter_D]

I can tell you now for a fact, that i have run the 197 on Normal unleaded for 6 months, and on v power/super unleaded (99 RON) for 5 1/2 months, and the VPower/Super gives about 1-2 MPG better.

I have vast records that show that too :):):);)

Vast records eh? :cool:

I can just picture your hard drive lad, a vast and exciting database of graphs and spreadsheets journalising every single mile you drove in the car, every drop of petrol, and also tachographs of the speed and rpm you have been driving at over the last 11 and a half months, with different coloured tabs alerting you to when you switched on the aircon, heated rear screen etc

Then you were up without sleep for 6 days straight, preparing a final report summarising every piece of information...

http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/08/72/68/400_F_8726816_ntId1CdCj58hX3xgH9uzmVoqC8BksyPW.jpg


...to reveal an accurate measurement of a "1-2 MPG" gain whilst using V-Power

[lukedorritt]

i put v power in and saw 10-15 bhp increase defo init

[L20VTS]

Vast records eh? :cool:

I can just picture your hard drive lad, a vast and exciting database of graphs and spreadsheets journalising every single mile you drove in the car, every drop of petrol, and also tachographs of the speed and rpm you have been driving at over the last 11 and a half months, with different coloured tabs alerting you to when you switched on the aircon, heated rear screen etc

Then you were up without sleep for 6 days straight, preparing a final report summarising every piece of information...

http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/08/72/68/400_F_8726816_ntId1CdCj58hX3xgH9uzmVoqC8BksyPW.jpg


...to reveal an accurate measurement of a "1-2 MPG" gain whilst using V-Power

PMSL!! One of the funniest replies i've read for a while!!!

[0rang3peel]

Vast records eh? :cool:

I can just picture your hard drive lad, a vast and exciting database of graphs and spreadsheets journalising every single mile you drove in the car, every drop of petrol, and also tachographs of the speed and rpm you have been driving at over the last 11 and a half months, with different coloured tabs alerting you to when you switched on the aircon, heated rear screen etc

Then you were up without sleep for 6 days straight, preparing a final report summarising every piece of information...

http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/08/72/68/400_F_8726816_ntId1CdCj58hX3xgH9uzmVoqC8BksyPW.jpg


...to reveal an accurate measurement of a "1-2 MPG" gain whilst using V-Power

LOL.

basically there is no point in buying super fuel in a very un-super standardish saxo. If I ever bought a brand new fancy car I probably would, but I see no point.

[MikeCracknell]

Na, just jot down the mileage for each tank that it has covered, ensure it is filled to the same point each time (brimmed), and go from there.

It is also a strange thing that the harder I drive the car (to a point) the better the MPG?!

LOL, Renault's LOVE being driven hard ;)

[Peter_D]

Na, just jot down the mileage for each tank that it has covered, ensure it is filled to the same point each time (brimmed), and go from there.

It is also a strange thing that the harder I drive the car (to a point) the better the MPG?!

LOL, Renault's LOVE being driven hard ;)

If you're getting better MPG from driving harder, then i think your vast records may not be quite as correct as you think :geek:

[Alexywhite]

There's a lot of myth flying around about it being "better" but the bottom line is unless your car is mapped to run 99ron is does fuck all apart from cost more.

Exactly!

[craigy_87]

i stick in V power now an again, whenever it takes my fancy lol
think it cost 1.20 last time i did (last week)

[Tommo87]

I could do with some of the 101 stuff as my car is mapped for 100 octane.

To answer someones question from earlier no UK Hondas are mapped for UK 95octane fuel and the JDM Hondas are mapped for Japanese 100octane fuel.

[Tommo87]

I could do with some of the 101 stuff as my car is mapped for 100 octane.

To answer someones question from earlier no UK Hondas are mapped for UK 95octane fuel and the JDM Hondas are mapped for Japanese 100octane fuel.

[Barry123]

since owning my vts 2 years i have never put anything else in other than v power. filled it up today at £1.24 per litre

same here... can't really be arsed with going to normal petrol because of the pinking that'll happen during the map transition.

[Barry123]

Speaking of nerdy records...

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/Untitled-1-3.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/adsayer/Untitled-2-1.jpg

[Peter_D]

LOL, damn wish i had that picture for my post

[K17NEY]

Na, just jot down the mileage for each tank that it has covered, ensure it is filled to the same point each time (brimmed), and go from there.

It is also a strange thing that the harder I drive the car (to a point) the better the MPG?!

LOL, Renault's LOVE being driven hard ;)

Your aint doing it right,more air equals more fuel,end of!
Give it too me for a day and ill prove it to you..

[MikeCracknell]

Uh huh.

Sayer is a nerdy legend as usual.

Re the higher revs thing, cue Autocar:

Economy did improve, with the cross-country figure rising from 24.3mpg to 37.4mpg – a 35 per cent increase. That means over the course of 20,000 miles, we would save £1,400 filling up with the costly super unleaded the Clio demands. But a word of warning on high-octane fuel – although it can be beneficial, we’ve seen prices nearing £1.20 a litre at some forecourts.

Overall economy didn’t see as dramatic a rise – the short gearing means the 197 was never going to be that efficient on multi-lane roads. Yet a gain of 8mpg isn’t to be sniffed at, and nor is the fact my CO2 emissions have fallen by over 1.7 tonnes per year and I have an extra £813 in my pocket.

So we know it’s possible to save fuel and money in a hot hatch. The thing is, I feel it goes against the grain of owning one. Eco-driving doesn’t suit the Clio at all. Oliver expressed his frustration at not being able to unleash the full potential of his BMW, and for the 197, it’s even worse. I’m happy to sacrifice some economy so I can make the most of cross-country roads. But
I may ease off on motorways – the thought of saving more than £800 a year is tempting...

[MikeCracknell]

Also Wiki:

so low-octane fuel can be used in an engine designed for high octane, with some reduction in efficiency and performance. If the engine is designed for high octane then higher-octane fuel will result in higher efficiency and performance under certain load and mixture conditions

[MikeCracknell]

BUT having read these, I'm gonna try another 6 months of Normal Unleaded again!

[Peter_D]

Uh huh.

Sayer is a nerdy legend as usual.

Re the higher revs thing, cue Autocar:

Thats just saying that the Clio doesn't suit eco-driving

As in it's full potential is unleashed on country roads

Doesn't mean that fuel economy is better when you've driving harder, it should be worse

But in all honesty, why do you care? If you can afford to buy and tax and insure a Clio 197, surely you're financially secure enough to not give a fuck about losing a few MPG or paying a bit extra for the correct fuel?

It's like the people with £50,000+ BMW's who complain about the rise in road tax prices, an extra £100 a year or so, wow

[MikeCracknell]

Thats just saying that the Clio doesn't suit eco-driving

As in it's full potential is unleashed on country roads

Doesn't mean that fuel economy is better when you've driving harder, it should be worse

But in all honesty, why do you care? If you can afford to buy and tax and insure a Clio 197, surely you're financially secure enough to not give a fuck about losing a few MPG or paying a bit extra for the correct fuel?

It's like the people with £50,000+ BMW's who complain about the rise in road tax prices, an extra £100 a year or so, wow

Good answer :)

But this thread was never about MPG, more about the fact that I paid €1,55 per litre for V Power :) (hinting towards how long it would be before UK sees criminal prices for fuel like it!)

Bring on the Nurburgring in 3 weeks time, then my economy will go right down to 5 MPG LOL!

I bet your beastie does wonders with fuel on track too, new post "What is your worst MPG figure?" Yours and mine would be right up there :):):)

[MikeCracknell]

I have a mate who used to own a Teg, and he sold it for an *unspecified* diesel.

He loves the cheapness of the diesel but HATES the drive and wants Teggy back ;)

[K17NEY]

BUT having read these, I'm gonna try another 6 months of Normal Unleaded again!

You are possibly the most boring person i have ever met.I think the word anal describes you best..

[MikeCracknell]

You are possibly the most boring person i have ever met.I think the word anal describes you best..

Yeah thanks for that, did you see adsayers pictures lol!

[K17NEY]

Yeah thanks for that, did you see adsayers pictures lol!

No problem;)
Adsayer has a two tone S so hes cool.

[MikeCracknell]

No problem;)
Adsayer has a two tone S so hes cool.

Yeah but the question is, which one out of yours and his do I prefer, and despite the abuse you have given me I am swaying towards yours ;)

[Peter_D]

Bring on the Nurburgring in 3 weeks time, then my economy will go right down to 5 MPG LOL!

I bet your beastie does wonders with fuel on track too, new post "What is your worst MPG figure?" Yours and mine would be right up there :):):)

Mine is ok if i slip it in 6th and just cruise, probably get about 27mpg at best

In VTEC though i dread to think what it'l be..

Drove my mates Corrola 1.8 VVTi ages ago and it was showing 3.4mpg at 8000rpm off the limiter. And thats just a 1.8 with about 180bhp

So you'd imagine a 2.0 with 220bhp sitting at 8500rpm might be even less than 3.4mpg :geek:


You are possibly the most boring person i have ever met.I think the word anal describes you best..

Anal and boring should not be used in the same paragraph :cool:

:homme:

[MikeCracknell]

So you'd imagine a 2.0 with 220bhp sitting at 8500rpm might be even less than 3.4mpg :geek:

Do it and tell me, legend :)

[K17NEY]

Yeah but the question is, which one out of yours and his do I prefer, and despite the abuse you have given me I am swaying towards yours ;)

What a guy!!:y:
ps.it wasnt abuse,just a bit of banter;)

[MikeCracknell]

What a guy!!:y:
ps.it wasnt abuse,just a bit of banter;)

I use the word "Abuse" as banter too ;):)

[K17NEY]

Mine is ok if i slip it in 6th and just cruise, probably get about 27mpg at best

In VTEC though i dread to think what it'l be..

Drove my mates Corrola 1.8 VVTi ages ago and it was showing 3.4mpg at 8000rpm off the limiter. And thats just a 1.8 with about 180bhp

So you'd imagine a 2.0 with 220bhp sitting at 8500rpm might be even less than 3.4mpg :geek:




Anal and boring should not be used in the same paragraph :cool:

:homme:

Nice line!

[K17NEY]

I use the word "Abuse" as banter too ;):)

Tomato tomarto

[Peter_D]

DC5 doesn't have any fancy MPG readings so i can't tell you what it is otherwise i would have said

[MiniGibbo]

Those instant mpg readers are an iffy one ive got one in mine and apparently if i lift off at vertully any speed i get 50mpg !

I can verifiy though it reads under 8mpg (which is the lowest) at 130mph in forth as seen on Bedford about two months ago :A:

[Peter_D]

I can verifiy though it reads under 8mpg (which is the lowest) at 130mph in forth as seen on Bedford about two months ago :A:

I'm not familiar with that particular stretch of the Autobahn lad? :oops:

[MiniGibbo]

I'm not familiar with that particular stretch of the Autobahn lad? :oops:

Thatll be because its part of the Bedford Autodrome race track :cool:

Wont catch me speeding on the roads :zainy:

[Peter_D]

What kinda beemer have you got lad?

Must be a nice straight to touch 130mph?

[MiniGibbo]

2.5 200hp fast enough for me :A: