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MAXSTARR
28th June 2010, 14:43
would you keep Fabio Capello in the hotseat for england?

or send him packing with the inevitable huge pay packet?

who would you like to see at the helm of the england team?

MattSaxoVTR
28th June 2010, 14:43
id send him packing with the inevitable huge pay packet

rey
28th June 2010, 14:46
I'd keep him.

The players were far worse than his tactics.

taitypot106
28th June 2010, 14:48
i say get him out, i just dont think hes done that much for england.

and whoever wins the world cup, i want their manager to be ours instead

piggy123
28th June 2010, 14:48
I'd keep him.

The players were far worse than his tactics.

agreed.... we played CRAP in all 4 games

MAXSTARR
28th June 2010, 14:49
i think we should keep him..... he only made a few mistakes ie: taking king and a blatently unfit barry..... ohhh and bringing heskey on against germany when we needed goals..... :n:.

if he did go, who would you want as the new manager? id personally want Harry Redknapp ..... very unlikely though

AndySAXO
28th June 2010, 14:56
what the point in sacking the manager again.... but if he goes i say get harry Redknapp in!! he wants the job and would be the man to take england forword!!

if capello does go have to go english for the next manager not a steve mclaren type manager he was never proven... but someone like harry who take team to the next level.

Caino
28th June 2010, 14:57
kick him out...

get a manager thats actually fucking English !

nicole_
28th June 2010, 14:58
could someone explain to someone who doesnt know anything or give two sh*ts about football, why its a managers fault if we loose?
englands been crap for forever, why does the manager matter?

Sparky26
28th June 2010, 14:58
mourinho ftw

JRC1
28th June 2010, 14:58
I'd keep him.

The players were far worse than his tactics.

Agreed. How can you blame a manager who has had huge success at the other clubs he's been at. Our players were utter shit. Fact.

Caino
28th June 2010, 15:01
fair enough they players were shit
but i said before they give him the jon (knowing his success rate) that i would prefer not to have him

i think you need an English manager to manage England ! Redknapp or even Hodgeson !

MAXSTARR
28th June 2010, 15:01
could someone explain to someone who doesnt know anything or give two sh*ts about football, why its a managers fault if we loose?
englands been crap for forever, why does the manager matter?

its not really, all he can do is tactics, ie, formations and choosing players....

but its easier for the FA to blame one person than the whole team......

jpsaxo
28th June 2010, 15:02
it would be a knee-jerk reaction to sack him now, you've got to look across all the games hes been in charge and in general has a good record, its not particularly his fault the players didnt seem fired up for a world cup...

I'd give him time, proven top european manager and can help us do well in 2012 euros, if we dont do well, then is the time to change imo!

Merrick
28th June 2010, 15:03
Why the hell would harry redknapp take the england job, its a death sentence.

Capellos biggest mistake was trying to force a tactic onto players who clearly weren't performing with it. Theres nothing wrong with his tactics, but he should of picked players that actually fealt comfortable playing them, even if it meant dropping our bigger names for abit more team synergy.


The players havent performed for the last 10 years, the managers always get the blame, but who chooses the manager? Maybe its time someone took a good look at the people running the FA.

raunchz
28th June 2010, 15:03
get rid of capello - he can't even speak good english.

MAXSTARR
28th June 2010, 15:07
Why the hell would harry redknapp take the england job, its a death sentence.

Capellos biggest mistake was trying to force a tactic onto players who clearly weren't performing with it. Theres nothing wrong with his tactics, but he should of picked players that actually fealt comfortable playing them, even if it meant dropping our bigger names for abit more team synergy.


The players havent performed for the last 10 years, the managers always get the blame, but who chooses the manager? Maybe its time someone took a good look at the people running the FA.

TRUE!!!!!!!!!!

Carlvtr88
28th June 2010, 15:08
kick him out...

get a manager thats actually fucking English !

i think i need my post from the other thread in this one dont i Caino lol.

Carlvtr88
28th June 2010, 15:12
could someone explain to someone who doesnt know anything or give two sh*ts about football, why its a managers fault if we loose?
englands been crap for forever, why does the manager matter?

In that case nicole, Ill apply for the position :).... in the other England V Germany thread i mentioned the fact that IMO a managers job is to get into the heads of the players and motivate them, i wouldnt find any motivation from a guy who can bearly speak english TBH. We need someone Patriotic and someone who can actually explain what the F**k went wrong....Not that we need an explanation as we all seen it, But a managers got to have his say, and Capello clearly cant say much.

Chuffy
28th June 2010, 15:14
Why the hell would harry redknapp take the england job, its a death sentence.

Capellos biggest mistake was trying to force a tactic onto players who clearly weren't performing with it. Theres nothing wrong with his tactics, but he should of picked players that actually fealt comfortable playing them, even if it meant dropping our bigger names for abit more team synergy.


The players havent performed for the last 10 years, the managers always get the blame, but who chooses the manager? Maybe its time someone took a good look at the people running the FA.

Spot on mate, have a look at my comment in the Germany vs england thread

MAXSTARR
28th June 2010, 15:14
In that case nicole, Ill apply for the position :).... in the other England V Germany thread i mentioned the fact that IMO a managers job is to get into the heads of the players and motivate them, i wouldnt find any motivation from a guy who can bearly speak english TBH. We need someone Patriotic and someone who can actually explain what the F**k went wrong....Not that we need an explanation as we all seen it, But a managers got to have his say, and Capello clearly cant say much.

true..... but he still has the best record out of all the england managers.... i think he should stay....... no ones going to come to us thats english unless there absolutely stupid...... ie) ian dowie

Caino
28th June 2010, 15:16
Could you say that the England players looked a bit burnt out from a long season ? The English season is longer than other countries and play more games ? Could shortening the amount of games on a World Cup year help ? Just a thought like

Chuffy
28th June 2010, 15:21
Could you say that the England players looked a bit burnt out from a long season ? The English season is longer than other countries and play more games ? Could shortening the amount of games on a World Cup year help ? Just a thought like

Suppose you could look at it but mind it's only every 4 years. Perhaps their is a better way for the squad to prepare.

If you look at the Group stage games England were playing every Fri nite and had the one game on the Wednesday so they did get a bit of rest in between.

It's just one of thoes things really

Carlvtr88
28th June 2010, 15:50
we just werent good enough, End of, Sadening it is but its true ! bar lampard, i think he did pretty well, Hit the bar and scored but wasnt counted... Perfect goal. Imagine the upraor if they won 2-1... Jesus ! That referee is just lucky they got another 2 goals.... otherwise, death threats for him.

nicole_
28th June 2010, 15:53
In that case nicole, Ill apply for the position :).... in the other England V Germany thread i mentioned the fact that IMO a managers job is to get into the heads of the players and motivate them, i wouldnt find any motivation from a guy who can bearly speak english TBH. We need someone Patriotic and someone who can actually explain what the F**k went wrong....Not that we need an explanation as we all seen it, But a managers got to have his say, and Capello clearly cant say much.

if a whole country behind them isnt enough, one little guy isnt gunna do anything for them.
everywhere you go in england, theres flags etc, people were SO passionately behind them and they still couldnt do it.
i just dont see the importance of the manager, cant get my head round why hes so important at all

CaptainYid
28th June 2010, 15:54
keep him... purely because i dont want redknapp leaving spurs!

AndySAXO
28th June 2010, 15:54
lamps only had two good shot all world cup that all he did!!!! bar from the greman game lamps did fack all!!

gerrard was only in the correct position once against the yanks and he scored and played his best... then out on the wing again where he dosent like it... does the job for the team but is wasted out there!!

he the best centre mid we have but we put him on the wing!!!

it was so simple play gerrard behind rooney that what rooney wanted as that how he likes to play.... rooney and garrard would of feed of each other all the time...

AndySAXO
28th June 2010, 15:55
also harry has always said he would love the england job one day... so i think if offered he would take it!

0rang3peel
28th June 2010, 15:58
get rid of capello - he can't even speak good english.

lol what a retarded comment.

He speaks basic english, he has never coached in the UK before you hardly need an MA in English to bark out orders & get players playing he is a great manager... the players didn't show up. I think we would do well to keep him but im fairly sure he will pack his bag & go.

Merrick
28th June 2010, 16:00
Redknapp just got tottenham into the champions league, hes not going to throw that away to manage an england team whos players will mostly be past it for the next world cup; with no real new prospects coming through to take over.

Maybe for 2018, but I doubt he would be really interested in the job before then, whatever he says.

As for capellos english - " BARRY, THE FUCKING BALL BARRY". I think hes got it spot on :D

Furio-Gazza
28th June 2010, 16:00
i personally think its time for an english coach and some one with alot of passion so id give the managers job to beckham, let him have alot, cant be any worst than what we have had in the past :)

Josh-VTR
28th June 2010, 16:01
Yes agreed the players were shocking, but he made some awful decisions, when against Algeria 0-0 he swaps Lennon for SWP, awful imo as they are the same type of player. Joe Cole should have played more, and he brought a lot of players there that were unnecessary!

bide_furio
28th June 2010, 16:03
we played crap but capello seemed useless too! his substiutions were AWFUL!


only man i can see would be good is stu pearce!

Merrick
28th June 2010, 16:06
He should of just put stuart pearce on against algeria tbh.

calumBEV
28th June 2010, 16:13
from a scottish view i'd keep him, but from a neutral id send him packing he just doesn't seem to know who to play and where tbh, gerrard for a start should be in the middle, or atleast on the right! i also think carragher would have been a better choice than upson, and why heskey came on when they were losing instead of crouch god only knows..

Bickerton
28th June 2010, 16:16
Harry Redknapp gets my vote!

bide_furio
28th June 2010, 16:18
gerrard was AWSOME against america, then the media decided that barry must play so gerrard AGAIN gets shoved outta position! WTF he is so much better than lampard when t comes to playing for england! just cant understand the logic!


joe cole on then heskey on when chassin a goal is pointless! if heskey is on u need to be wide and putting the ball in the box!


if your not going to start heskey every game then dont take him, he is NOT an mpact player!

why not take some of the u21's from last years world cup like germany did instead of sticking with the same underacheiving squad as last two times??

MattSaxoVTR
28th June 2010, 16:54
Fabio is awful defo gotta go. firstly he plays milner when he is ill and then last 30mins. he dont play joe cole and he bums off heskey.
its not all his fault but he has to get his tactics right before the players can perform.

NickJ
28th June 2010, 17:29
England isn't England with an Italian manager, in my opinion

I thought the idea of the World Cup and the Euros was for countries to show off their talents and abilities, and we need an Italian manager to show that? There isn't one English manger capable of doing the job? Balls

Harry Redknapp or Roy Hodgson FTW!

David Beckham for assistant

stinkycheese
28th June 2010, 17:40
Bring in an English manager, cut anyone who will be too old for the next World Cup and start building a new team of young, talented, hungry players.

MattSaxoVTR
28th June 2010, 17:45
Bring in an English manager, cut anyone who will be too old for the next World Cup and start building a new team of young, talented, hungry players.

Amen to that

raunchz
28th June 2010, 17:49
lol what a retarded comment.

He speaks basic english, he has never coached in the UK before you hardly need an MA in English to bark out orders & get players playing he is a great manager... the players didn't show up. I think we would do well to keep him but im fairly sure he will pack his bag & go.

how is that retarded ?

how can you have a leader/manager of england that speaks basic english?

I personally doubt his skills as a manager going by England's 'tactics' in the world cup - his past record though is awesome.

The players did show up, but were shite - individually they are good players, as a team they were awful. Capello is the Team Manager, so the buck does partially lie with him.

Ryyy
28th June 2010, 18:15
Couple of mistakes Fabios made, like placing Gerrard in the wrong postion.

Theres one thing placing a player in an abnormal position, but sticking to your guns after hes said hes unable to play there, dodgy.

Still think the responsability lies with JT, Upson, Glen Johnson, Roo, but Id say especially the back 3 due to Ashely Cole being unreal in all the games, hes the only one we can rely on imo.

As Alan Hansen once said "Youll never win anything with kids".

Couldnt be more wrong.

Keep Fabio, bring in Agbonlahor, Walcott, Lennon, Keep Milner etc.

stinkycheese
28th June 2010, 18:22
Keep Rooney, Milner, Lennon, Gerrard, Hart, Johnson, Dawson and Cole.

Cut the rest and replace with under 21's.

Rach125
28th June 2010, 18:31
i dont blame the manager, i blame england they were shit, no matter how good fabios tactics or no mater how much he yelled at them, they didnt care less they played shit and they knew it

Carlvtr88
28th June 2010, 18:45
Bring in an English manager, cut anyone who will be too old for the next World Cup and start building a new team of young, talented, hungry players.

well said !