decisions......

[Pudzy67]

hi guys got a few questions to put out there, I am 20 and currently saving up for a saxo mk2 vtr/s for me and my girlfriend mibi to learn to drive in what do you think would be best option to go for vtr vts? quotes i have for the both of us 846 for vtr and 1358 for vts.


and when i do finaly get 1 i am looking to lower it60mm at front and 80mm at rear do you think this is a bit drastic and what problems am i likely to encounter in doin this? and what springs and shocks do you recamend? and could some explain the whole torsion bar please do i need to uprate it in anyway if droping it 80mm? cheers guys pudzy newbie cool:

[Tom_Crx]

have a look around the site, 80 mm is pretty low at the back, 60 mm all around would still be pretty low. being 20 and owning a vts doesnt sound too bad, but it all depends on what you can afford, but learning in a vts maybe abit difficult. All depends on money mate.

Now i have a question, pics of said girlfriend...

[Pudzy67]

lol not for your eyes mate its her thats going to be learning to drive i think it might be a vtr a go for


do you know of any things i should look out for when i come round to buying? cheers for the reply

[Moke]

lol not for your eyes mate its her thats going to be learning to drive i think it might be a vtr a go for


do you know of any things i should look out for when i come round to buying? cheers for the reply

Before you get a hail of comments saying "use the search!!!!!" - Use the search ;)

Check for:

Bend in back axle
Rotting in boot/arches
Rust in engine bay
Oil leaks
Corrosion on front legs

There's more but I can't think of any at the moment.

[Tom_Crx]

Obviously check the body work (don't bother looking if its been raining and the car is wet, you wont see marks or dents so easily). Check for rust around the doors, sills, arches etc.

You want to check that the interior is good, no tears or burns etc.

Now onto the 'mechanical' stuff. Easiest is check that all the electrics work, wipers, lights, washer jets/wipers, heated rear window, heating/fan system... everything.

under the bonnet... Check for oil around the head... if theres any, the headgasket may be on the way out. You can also remove the oil cap to check for a milky sort of build up. If there is any, walk away.

Start the engine, walk around the car and listen to see how smooth it runs, check the exhaust doesnt blow, the car idles/ticks over nicely etc.

May sound silly, but stick your head in the arches and have a good look at the coil springs, make sure they look in good order, no cracks or fractures, havent popped out. Potholes can cause this... you don't want to be driving and then suddenly a damaged coil spring rips into the tyre.

Check it comes with a spare wheel etc.

(i'll think of more eventually, I've been awake 19 hours!)

EDIT:

Check the tyres for tread (if the tread is crap, you'll have to replace the tyres after the sale of the car... don't really want to be doing that) Also check how the tyres have worn.. for example, if the previous owner didnt have the tyres inflated to the correct pressure, the wear may not be even accross the width of the tyre.

Check for service history, V5 document, any accidents/repairs etc, check the timing belt has been changed.. should be after/at 65,000 miles roughly

EDIT again:

If it has a sunroof, sit in the car with the doors closed, have a good sniff for any damp smell... this will indicate a leaking sunroof which is bad news. Water can also come in through the hole the aerael sits in. (Mine had this, it came through there, and then through the housing of the interior light).

EDIT yet again:

Test driiiive, check the handling, the clutch, the brakes, how smooth it all is etc. Check the car doesn't pull to one side (do this on a straight piece of road). Make sure you try the car on different types of road. For example country/winding roads to check handling and suspension over bumps, and go on an a road to check the car at 60mph. make sure you use all the gears, check all changes are smooth. Check that there are no horrible noises, or severe rattling etc. Saxo's are notorious for small interior rattles, nothing really to worry about. Also, when going round corners, check for knocking noises etc... This may indicate a suspension or driveshaft issue.

Copied across, couldn't find the thread on buying

[Chuffy]

Will you be telling the insurance about your mods? As this will push you quoted price up

[Pudzy67]

it will be a standard car according to the insurance,



cheers guys new to this so be prepaerd for lots of questions

[Moke]

it will be a standard car according to the insurance,


If you modify your car without informing your insurers, your insurance is invalid mate.

[Pudzy67]

how much is the prem membership?

[Tom_Crx]

how much is the prem membership?
£15 iirc and tell your insurance

[Moke]

how much is the prem membership?

£10 a year for online membership.

£15 a year for full membership.

[Pudzy67]

aye a knew that but it will go through the roof and cause im at college a cant afford that need insurance to be under 1000 idealy

[Tom_Crx]

aye a knew that but it will go through the roof and cause im at college a cant afford that need insurance to be under 1000 idealy
Well not telling them is the same as driving around with no insurance

[Pudzy67]

true how much shuold i expect it to up by if tell them about the lowering and poss performance exhaust?

[rey]

true how much shuold i expect it to up by if tell them about the lowering and poss performance exhaust?

Do a quote and find out?

[Tom_Crx]

All depends on the company

[Pudzy67]

£2797 thats steep

[Tom_Crx]

£2797 thats steep
But legal

[Pudzy67]

true mate its making me think anyway

[Tom_Crx]

Just don't crash into me when you have void insurance

[TomBob]

Personally I think you should go for the vtr as it'll be cheaper to insure and your girlfriend will be using it to learn in. Plus the insurance will be cheaper

[rey]

£2797 thats steep

I know what you'll be doing...

[Pudzy67]

dont think i could drive around knowing my insurance wasnt right any pics of your sax?

[Pudzy67]

whats that rey?

[Chuffy]

aye a knew that but it will go through the roof and cause im at college a cant afford that need insurance to be under 1000 idealy

dont mod it mate, you won't get a lot of support on here if that's your way of thinking about insurance.

You might as well not insure it at all

[Tom_Crx]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19

Look in there mate

[rey]

whats that rey?

If your anything like people we normally get, then you wont bother declaring.

But you'll swear that you do.

[Pudzy67]

nice mate looks mint

[Pudzy67]

do you declare rey?

i could imagine there will be alot that dont declare

[rey]

I declare both my points, and any mods that I had on my old car yes.

Don't declare now, as I actually have nothing to declare.

[_saxo69]

my ex missus tryed learning to drvie in a vtr and she foung it too powerful, so i dont know whether thats a good idea mate,
also the insurance for her was 1700..

[jw1325]

oooh look at the saxo police 'Declare...DECLARE'

i can assure you there will be people on this sight that dont declare all their mods/ points.

my points etc are declared. i emailed elephant to enquire what it would push it up to putting on my lowering, lights....and if painting the standard wheels counts as modifying.

these are such little things, that if it does put itup... im not putting them on. not like im rocking with a big ass bodykit or super charged engine undeclared. got a little set of lights and a little lowered....

[Pudzy67]

Cheers jw I can see what you mean all I'm wanting to do is lower it and put a exhaust system on.

Saxo69 cheers for heads up I was looking into getting a vts but if the mrs going to learn to drive in it I think it will be a vtr

[Tom_Crx]

oooh look at the saxo police 'Declare...DECLARE'

i can assure you there will be people on this sight that dont declare all their mods/ points.
.

WTF Would you rather we told him not to declare?