Armed forces

[daveg1]

Just wondered what sort of pay you start out on. I know there are a few in the forces on here. Any info would be good

[William]

i think in training its about 200 odd quid, but after training when your a private i think it goes up to 300 odd quid a week, thats for the army anyway, not sure if it's different in the RAF or Navy...

[sparky771]

dont it depend on which regiment you go into? cause i would be very unhappy if say i was a commando and i got the same pay as a para say.

[vtrchris64]

This is for the Navy, think its simialr for the other forces aswell.

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/content/Royal_Navy_Pay_Rates

[sparky771]

This is for the Navy, think its simialr for the other forces aswell.

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/content/Royal_Navy_Pay_Rates

You can navigate on that very site to see the exact figures for each force :)

and they are all basically the same start off shit and get better

a naval captain can earn £80k sounds good to me ;)

[McGuire86]

dont it depend on which regiment you go into? cause i would be very unhappy if say i was a commando and i got the same pay as a para say.

why ? plus one is navy, the other army

[SaxoSam96]

First few weeks of training you get around £28 a day maybe less I cant remember, after the first 6 weeks when you get your beret it goes up to just over a grand a month, After training your be on about £1600 a month after Tax.

This is regarding the infantry in the Army.

Obviously you get over-seas pay if you get deployed.

[jay]

currently the army is £228 a week whilst in basic training, but when you've been in a while theres alsorts of crazy bonus's , i took home 2500 after tax this month which aint too bad

jay :)

[SaxoSam96]

currently the army is £228 a week whilst in basic training, but when you've been in a while theres alsorts of crazy bonus's , i took home 2500 after tax this month which aint too bad

jay :)

Which regiment you in?

But as Jay says, the bonus's are crazy,My mate who's in PWRR walked away with 4k in December 09 after a bonus!

[gixerbhoy]

Pongos!

[king_athelstan]

dont it depend on which regiment you go into? cause i would be very unhappy if say i was a commando and i got the same pay as a para say.

Royal Marines get paid less then Paras as Paras receive £160 a month extra 'Parachuting pay'. See below for confirmation.

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/benefits/articles/940-uk-armed-forces-pay-rates-for-all-services-april-2009---april-2010

[hard_corejoeboy]

Royal Marines get paid less then Paras as Paras receive £160 a month extra 'Parachuting pay'. See below for confirmation.

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/benefits/articles/940-uk-armed-forces-pay-rates-for-all-services-april-2009---april-2010

Even though the last time they jumped in combat was in Korea...

[king_athelstan]

Even though the last time they jumped in combat was in Korea...

Korea? Paras weren't in Korea. Last jump was Suez 1956. And yes, they get paid Para pay because of the dangers of parachuting not on the last time an operational drop took place. :homme:

[hard_corejoeboy]

My bad suez then. What's the point tbh just a waste of money...

[king_athelstan]

Yep. I suppose it is. In the grand scheme of things though paying a few thousand Paras an extra £160 a month doesn't even register on the money scale. The Government and MoD waste billions every year.

[maddison_vts]

i can't remember what its like in training, but the raf is £17,014 after you have been in 6 months. it works out to be around 1k take home after food, accomodation, tax and ni.
obviously that increases dependant on job and rank.

[sparky771]

why ? plus one is navy, the other army

Not true mate, there are army commandos too

Well my mate is in the army and has gone into training to be a recon commando (the step just below SAS) they work in a small team of about 5-10 people and sneak behind enermy lines, where as a para is frount line, but then they have to jump out of planes... so maybe that can justifyed.

[McGuire86]

sorry thought you were talking about the marine commandos. yeah the army does the all arms commando course but there isnt a commando regiment. i believe 1 para is a step below the sas as they are the sas support group..

[jay]

1 para are just below the sas as they are sfsg, and the sas are made up of 80% airbourne personnel

[maddison_vts]

when i was at mod st athan there were plenty of para's there, when i spoke to them none of them could tell me anyone they knew that had actually had to jump out of a plane into contact or theatre... so being in the para's is a bit of a joke really. they are just a frontline regiment like the rifles but think they are better than everyone because they have wings on their greens.:homme:

[king_athelstan]

when i spoke to them none of them could tell me anyone they knew that had actually had to jump out of a plane into contact or theatre... so being in the para's is a bit of a joke really.

How can it be a joke? It's like saying Marines are a joke because they don't go into combat in boats. The capabilities the Mod have in place are there because they may be needed one day. Better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it. You're the joke mate. ;)

[Rach125]

Yep. I suppose it is. In the grand scheme of things though paying a few thousand Paras an extra £160 a month doesn't even register on the money scale. The Government and MoD waste billions every year.

if anything they dont pay enough, people put their necks on the line everyday and get paid peanuts for it

[Yates]

First few weeks of training you get around £28 a day maybe less I cant remember, after the first 6 weeks when you get your beret it goes up to just over a grand a month, After training your be on about £1600 a month after Tax.

This is regarding the infantry in the Army.

Obviously you get over-seas pay if you get deployed.

1600 after tax? how longs training? as thats roughly 23k plus a year, based on tax being 200, and ni 100

and i cant imagine training being over 6 months, so unless it is, a soldier gets 23k a year after being in a year?

smells like bull shit to me

[Yates]

How can it be a joke? It's like saying Marines are a joke because they don't go into combat in boats. The capabilities the Mod have in place are there because they may be needed one day. Better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it. You're the joke mate. ;)

falklands the did

but other places they cant as its surrounded by land, so ships cant really drop them off

[SaxoSam96]

1600 after tax? how longs training? as thats roughly 23k plus a year, based on tax being 200, and ni 100

and i cant imagine training being over 6 months, so unless it is, a soldier gets 23k a year after being in a year?

smells like bull shit to me

Over-seas pay as he's based in cyprus.

I think I'd know mate.. I went to harrogate when I was 16, did catterick after that was based in cyprus for 5 months before leaving before my 18th birthday so I didnt have to sign up for 4 years.

EDIT: Training varys from job to job.
Infantry training at catterick is 26 weeks, but if you went to harrogate as junior entry you enter straight into P2 training which is 10 weeks, or 14 weeks for soldiers who started catterick as a Adult entry.

[Yates]

ah so you done year n half, you mate must get some bonuses then being away

i mean first year pay must be what 18k roughly? so hes getting 5k for being over seas?

still seems too much

break it down if you want, as you have done a year so you know the basic set up, i was under the impression that all forces have basically the same pay training wise, and up through the levels.

you said you get 1600 after tax when finished training and then over seas pay, which would be even more than the 23k i said.

i take it your mate who picks up 1600 after tax has done 4 or so years to warrent getting that much, otherwise i still think if hes just finished training its utter bull shit that hes on 23k plus over seas pay

[SaxoSam96]

ah so you done year n half, you mate must get some bonuses then being away

i mean first year pay must be what 18k roughly? so hes getting 5k for being over seas?

still seems too much

break it down if you want, as you have done a year so you know the basic set up, i was under the impression that all forces have basically the same pay training wise, and up through the levels.

you said you get 1600 after tax when finished training and then over seas pay, which would be even more than the 23k i said.

i take it your mate who picks up 1600 after tax has done 4 or so years to warrent getting that much, otherwise i still think if hes just finished training its utter bull shit that hes on 23k plus over seas pay
When did I say PLUS over-seas pay. £1600 take home living overseas, IS overseas pay.
When PWRR move to London this year his pay will decrease.

[king_athelstan]

A private soldier on level 4 pay scale (4-5 years service) will be on £21,773.39 a year. If posted overseas on an extra £10 a day it will see him on just over £25,000 a year.

[SaxoSam96]

ah so you done year n half, you mate must get some bonuses then being away

i mean first year pay must be what 18k roughly? so hes getting 5k for being over seas?

still seems too much

break it down if you want, as you have done a year so you know the basic set up, i was under the impression that all forces have basically the same pay training wise, and up through the levels.

you said you get 1600 after tax when finished training and then over seas pay, which would be even more than the 23k i said.

i take it your mate who picks up 1600 after tax has done 4 or so years to warrent getting that much, otherwise i still think if hes just finished training its utter bull shit that hes on 23k plus over seas pay

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/content/army_pay_rates_2009

This might give you a better understanding.
Thought you'd know being a Weapons engineer, I'm taking it your in the forces?

[Yates]

After training your be on about £1600 a month after Tax.

Obviously you get over-seas pay if you get deployed.

thats where you said it

1600 after training after tax, and obviously get over seas pay when deployed

yes im i forces and i do know, hence why i know its complete shit that you are posting, you dont get 1600 after tax when you have finished training, even with overseas pay.

like the link you just posted proves you dont get 1600 after tax once finished training, and like king althesan just said would need to be in 4 years or so to collect what you claim you get. which is what i said in the first place.

[SaxoVTR2008]

Stop arguing about paras and marines.. we all know paras can't handle marine training!

[Carlvtr88]

wouldnt worry too much about the pay, Cause i'd be spending it all on the gear that the government DONT provide you with lol. Slackers !

[Yates]

the forces themselves waste shit loads of money on all kinds of things, if they didnt, we could probably afford alot more kit for the lads out there

[maddison_vts]

How can it be a joke? It's like saying Marines are a joke because they don't go into combat in boats. The capabilities the Mod have in place are there because they may be needed one day. Better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it. You're the joke mate. ;)

not really because the marines don't bang on about being deployed from a rib nor do they get paid stupid amount extra for it.
and in MAIN current ops (those covered by the media), being deployed by a boat isn't possible is it? :clapping:
to top it off, if you knew off even half of the operations the navy carry out you would know that the marines use boats on a regular basis to carry out 'smaller' operations.

to add to it, the para's is a bit of a joke as its a 99.9% chance they will NEVER be dropped out of a plane into contact due to the fact that on the way down they are just going to be target practice.

anyway, i'll carry on being a joke and living my joke of a life.:y:

[king_athelstan]

Looking at your profile you're in the RAF! What a joke! :homme:

Don't comment on elite forces when you know nothing about them. Stick to being a trolley dolly. Now let's get back to cars.

[SaxoVTR2008]

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[king_athelstan]

Oh deary me. Some people really do like to delude themselves. In all fairness the RAF have a job to do just like elite Paras and Marines but they never fight on the front line out in Helmand. The RAF Regt guard airfields and drive around the perimeter of Camp Bastion in Afghanistan.

Anyway, arguing on the internet is a pointless activity, especially on a forum dedicated to Saxo's so I'll give it a rest.

[MikeyW]

Oh deary me. Some people really do like to delude themselves. In all fairness the RAF have a job to do just like elite Paras and Marines but they never fight on the front line out in Helmand. The RAF Regt guard airfields and drive around the perimeter of Camp Bastion in Afghanistan.

Anyway, arguing on the internet is a pointless activity, especially on a forum dedicated to Saxo's so I'll give it a rest.

True true, but don't forget RAF Regiment 2 Squadron. Eligible for SFSG just the same as Para's and Marines. Also trained almost the same in parachute operations as the Para's.

[king_athelstan]

True true, but don't forget RAF Regiment 2 Squadron. Eligible for SFSG just the same as Para's and Marines. Also trained almost the same in parachute operations as the Para's.

Not strictly true mate. 2 Sqn RAF Regt aren't trained to engage the enemy on operations (like Paras and Marines) as that is not their role, hence why they don't fight in Afghanistan. 2 Sqn RAF Regt are trained to jump into airfields and secure them. Paras are trained to jump behind enemy lines and fight. Though I'm not disputing the fact that neither of them will ever get the chance to do it with the recent governments state of mind regarding casualty rates. Better to have the capability though then to not have it.

[maddison_vts]

Looking at your profile you're in the RAF! What a joke! :homme:

Don't comment on elite forces when you know nothing about them. Stick to being a trolley dolly. Now let's get back to cars.

seeing as modern war is won by air power i'd say the air force is more important than any other force tbh.

how about you stick to being cannon fodder, and i'll sit in my comfortable air base getting better paid for being at less risk ;)

[king_athelstan]

I don't mind being cannon fodder. In fact i'm proud to be just like the hundreds of young lads putting their life on the line every day in Afghanistan. You stick to your comfy plane dishing out meals to the troops. ;)

[maddison_vts]

I don't mind being cannon fodder. In fact i'm proud to be just like the hundreds of young lads putting their life on the line every day in Afghanistan. You stick to your comfy plane dishing out meals to the troops. ;)

crack on then, rather you than me! and i will stick to the comfy planes and chinooks. i don't ever recall aircrew dishing out meals!:wacko: