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Predator_R32
10th July 2010, 05:49
Been on night shift so been following the story, shot himself about 2am

Dead on arrival to hospital, looking at the video i heard 2 shots but police confirmed that no shots from officers were fired

Whole story here

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Raoul-Moat-Sky-Sources-Says-He-Is-Dead-After-Shooting-Himself-Following-Stand-Off-With-Police/Article/201007215662595?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15662595_Raoul_Moat%3A_Sky_Sources_Say s_He_Is_Dead_After_Shooting_Himself_Following_Stan d-Off_With_Police

The End

TipTopTom
10th July 2010, 06:17
Yeah right. Sounds a lot like a cover up to me. They'd get in the shit for shooting him. Funny this happens right after the SAS are involved ;)

Tontsy
10th July 2010, 06:28
...shame












Not.

Giraffe
10th July 2010, 07:38
...shame












Not.

It is a bit really, sure they guy was a psycho and did some bad things, made some bad decisions, but I think the circumstances which have led to all this are a shame. He didn't just wake up fucked up in the head one day...

Sparky26
10th July 2010, 07:39
i feel sorry for the bloke! granted he shouldnt have done what he did but still feel sorry for him

petite-voiture
10th July 2010, 07:43
All for the best really (imno) certainly the "cheaper option"
To be honest........fuck it it's over.

vtrsarah
10th July 2010, 07:43
well no sympathy from me tbh good the world could do with 1 less maniac still no justice for the families of those who killed

nappert
10th July 2010, 07:49
I never had any time for the guy after what he's done,BUT now that he's turned the gun on himself,Ive got a tad more respect for the lad.lifes' a bitch!!! so is death!!

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 08:02
got no respect for the man for what hes done... but if you follow the story start to finish and hear everything, you get to feel it was an authority born fuck up and the authorities took care of it end thread

Pixie
10th July 2010, 08:08
What made me laugh was they said trained negotiators were talking to him for 6 hours!! 6 HOURS!! Tazer the f*cker and then shoot his knee caps...........simples :D

gixerbhoy
10th July 2010, 08:10
Been on night shift so been following the story, shot himself about 2am

Dead on arrival to hospital, looking at the video i heard 2 shots but police confirmed that no shots from officers were fired

Whole story here

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Raoul-Moat-Sky-Sources-Says-He-Is-Dead-After-Shooting-Himself-Following-Stand-Off-With-Police/Article/201007215662595?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15662595_Raoul_Moat%3A_Sky_Sources_Say s_He_Is_Dead_After_Shooting_Himself_Following_Stan d-Off_With_Police

The End

2 shots? So he couldn't even kill himself right...........

Giraffe
10th July 2010, 08:11
What made me laugh was they said trained negotiators were talking to him for 6 hours!! 6 HOURS!! Tazer the f*cker and then shoot his knee caps...........simples :D

And how do you propose to get close enough to him without possibly provoking him into shooting himself, as he did do? If you were a trained negotiator and the guy is holding a shotgun to his neck, I'm absolutely certain that by the time you get close enough to taser, or have even tasered, he will have pulled the trigger. Not to mention tasering would cause him to tense up like mad, and if his finger is resting on a trigger of a gun pointed to his head, chance of him pulling the trigger when being tasered, which would than make the police liable?

Don't join the police, please.

Chr15
10th July 2010, 08:12
id call some ninjas

Pixie
10th July 2010, 08:15
Ok Ok just shoot his Knee Caps then, and i have no intention joining the police you will be happy to hear :)

Netsky1991
10th July 2010, 08:15
If you had a shotgun it wouldn't take 2 shots to kill yourself, hmmmmmm......

Liam
10th July 2010, 08:24
He only shot himself once. No idea what it was the Pred heard. Echo maybe?

TipTopTom
10th July 2010, 08:24
If you had a shotgun it wouldn't take 2 shots to kill yourself, hmmmmmm......

Like i said, cover up :y:

Chr15
10th July 2010, 08:24
No it wouldn't.

but the first shot was probably just a warning

Yellow_Saxo_Paul
10th July 2010, 08:25
There was only one shot read the news/watch the video on sky...

No sympathy. Wonder how much of our tax money was wasted...

Yellow_Saxo_Paul
10th July 2010, 08:26
There was only one shot read the news/watch the video on sky...

No sympathy. Wonder how much of our tax money was wasted...

king_athelstan
10th July 2010, 08:27
No sympathy. Wonder how much of our tax money was wasted...

A lot more if he'd have lived, went on trial and had to spend the rest of his life in jail.

Carlvtr88
10th July 2010, 08:44
Yeah right. Sounds a lot like a cover up to me. They'd get in the shit for shooting him. Funny this happens right after the SAS are involved ;)

you know what, before i even read this post i thought to myself... Cover up, they shot him lol.......... your prob not far off mate. If they really wanted him to live they cold have shot him with rubber bullets and incapaciated him EASILY ..... * sings * Coverrrrr up !

23carragold
10th July 2010, 08:56
you know what, before i even read this post i thought to myself... Cover up, they shot him lol.......... your prob not far off mate. If they really wanted him to live they cold have shot him with rubber bullets and incapaciated him EASILY ..... * sings * Coverrrrr up !

lol can just imagine you singing cover up in the most camp voice..

daz_zz_er
10th July 2010, 09:01
Death was the best option for him i think!

23carragold
10th July 2010, 09:05
It was funny how the retard Sky News presenters kept saying " Police are saying to Mr Moat that he DOES still have a future...behind bars...but he does have a future"...

No wonder he shot himself..

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:07
did anyone even read my post? ....the man is a killer none the less!!!(dont appreciate that), he gets no vote from me for the innocent man killed which has had no story!!!!!!!!, the policeman and young mother (both living have had grace) have had their face allover the news..... killed man has had nothing!!!, killers had his life pulled apart being told by the gf just weeks before his sentence ended it was all over and being led to belive it was a northumbria police officer that took his missus away, sorry but to me thats sick, and it was police that led him under this assumption.....hence his anger towards the force(and alleged cover up), the man had no food no home no anything for days.... but it was told that he could harm his gf before he left jail?? (police not doing their job) now after £1m+ of policing he's killed??? as i said i hold no favour for the man!! he killed and shot innocent ppl, but as i said if you heard and followed the full story there'd be a tale to tell!!! dont beleive anything the news tell you they get paid for their ability to talk shit..... reporters get paid £££ to lie.... licensed gob shites, hes seen nothing but grief, think of the man who "had it all", got "forced to jail" and i say that loosely as there's many sides................ came out with nothing....made a few bad decisions and end up stood in a field with no one to look to, soaking wet, hungry and ended up "killing himself" yet still got rugby scrumm'd off at least 8 officers???? would you jump on a man with no head?? i fucking wouldnt....... hes a murderer but still deserves dignity............ theres 2 sides to every story and i learnt that at a v young age
YET AGAIN IM NOT FOR OR AGAINST........BUT I THINK EVERY MAN DESERVES A DEFENCE and most on here are slating him, yet most of ne on news feel for his case????

king_athelstan
10th July 2010, 09:11
....made a few bad decisions and end up stood in a field with no one to look to, soaking wet, hungry

Bad decisions such as killing two people and severely injuring another?

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 09:18
I have been watching this all week about 6 hours a day.

The man clearly has some kind of mental health issues, which has been topped over by the silly Sgt calling him a nutter on life TV, I WOULD not be suprised if this tipped him over the top.

This has been planned, eveything he has done, its been like a cat and mouse game.

This could have been resolved, if police took what he said on Facebook last Friday and what Durham Prison serviced adviced.

His poo daughter is now going to be left with the whole story, not a memory I would want of my dad


Innocent until proven guilty.

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:27
[QUOTE=king_athelstan;4542117]Bad decisions such as killing two people and severely injuring another?[/Q

killing one person and severely injuring 2 ppl if your one for details mate, like i said....i dont condone or argue in favour of what he done, im pointing out theres 2 sides to every story.. and the police side always rules in the publics favour, so everyone not involved gets to hear what they want? surely everyones witnessed this? if not your living "in comfort" lol

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:30
I have been watching this all week about 6 hours a day.

The man clearly has some kind of mental health issues, which has been topped over by the silly Sgt calling him a nutter on life TV, I WOULD not be suprised if this tipped him over the top.

This has been planned, eveything he has done, its been like a cat and mouse game.

This could have been resolved, if police took what he said on Facebook last Friday and what Durham Prison serviced adviced.

His poo daughter is now going to be left with the whole story, not a memory I would want of my dad


Innocent until proven guilty.


WELL SAID MATE, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF NEGLECTED DUTIES.......all too farmiliar up here
NE MEMBER WITH THE SAME FEELING

Lew_C
10th July 2010, 09:32
If you had a shotgun it wouldn't take 2 shots to kill yourself, hmmmmmm......

Exactly!
One shot with a shotgun close range and you aren't looking at taking him to hospital for treatment, you are looking at scraping brains and guts off the floor

I think its a little deeper than that..

brianS
10th July 2010, 09:32
put away for abusing his children though wasnt he?
lucky i didnt shoot him really. would have managed it with one shot of the 12 guage

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 09:33
Yeah probs cos it happened in Birtley which aint far from me.

Listen to it all night on the radio, could tell he was dead straigh away when the ambulance did move straight after the shooting, then the slow speeds of the ambulance and armed police escort.

Shame he took his own life, something must have topped him over, maybe something was said wrong to him.

I wanted him to life, i wanted to hear the really story.

JRC1
10th July 2010, 09:37
He was never not going to take his own life IMO. He wanted to go out on a bang, it was clearly impossible for him to kill any police at that range with a shotgun, so it was obvious he was going to shoot himself. He's only just come out of jail, no way would he have wanted to go back in for life.

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:37
Exactly!
One shot with a shotgun close range and you aren't looking at taking him to hospital for treatment, you are looking at scraping brains and guts off the floor

I think its a little deeper than that..

8 hours negotiation with a man pointing a shotgun to his head the whole time? i couldnt tickle my eyebrow after holding something like that to my face for 20 mins(and after days without food or water)....yet he shot himself....... i wouldnt worry about it thought, this only happend around 18 mins before SAS personel arrived

Giraffe
10th July 2010, 09:40
did anyone even read my post? ....the man is a killer none the less!!!(dont appreciate that), he gets no vote from me for the innocent man killed which has had no story!!!!!!!!, the policeman and young mother (both living have had grace) have had their face allover the news..... killed man has had nothing!!!, killers had his life pulled apart being told by the gf just weeks before his sentence ended it was all over and being led to belive it was a northumbria police officer that took his missus away, sorry but to me thats sick, and it was police that led him under this assumption.....hence his anger towards the force(and alleged cover up), the man had no food no home no anything for days.... but it was told that he could harm his gf before he left jail?? (police not doing their job) now after £1m+ of policing he's killed??? as i said i hold no favour for the man!! he killed and shot innocent ppl, but as i said if you heard and followed the full story there'd be a tale to tell!!! dont beleive anything the news tell you they get paid for their ability to talk shit..... reporters get paid £££ to lie.... licensed gob shites, hes seen nothing but grief, think of the man who "had it all", got "forced to jail" and i say that loosely as there's many sides................ came out with nothing....made a few bad decisions and end up stood in a field with no one to look to, soaking wet, hungry and ended up "killing himself" yet still got rugby scrumm'd off at least 8 officers???? would you jump on a man with no head?? i fucking wouldnt....... hes a murderer but still deserves dignity............ theres 2 sides to every story and i learnt that at a v young age
YET AGAIN IM NOT FOR OR AGAINST........BUT I THINK EVERY MAN DESERVES A DEFENCE and most on here are slating him, yet most of ne on news feel for his case????

Well said mate, as I said in the other thread, we are all products of everything that has gone before us. Moat made some bad decisions, coupled with what must have been a hard life and down the wrong path, obviously what happened to him after he got out of prison was enough to send him over the edge. He's responsible for his actions ultimately, but it's still a massive shame when you consider everything that has and may have contributed to everything that has happened. Apparently he shouted that nobody cared about him, he had no father or something, then when you see his mother saying he would be better off dead, it's not too surprising. If anything, he's another person that society has failed, and unfortunately it's lead to this...

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:42
Yeah probs cos it happened in Birtley which aint far from me.

Listen to it all night on the radio, could tell he was dead straigh away when the ambulance did move straight after the shooting, then the slow speeds of the ambulance and armed police escort.

Shame he took his own life, something must have topped him over, maybe something was said wrong to him.

I wanted him to life, i wanted to hear the really story.


he didnt shoot himself mate, i was convinced he was going to, after 8 hours of hearing what you wanted to! POP? fair do's he had nout to live for did he? so why did at least 8 men dive on him? if i witnessed someone blow their top off..... last thing id do is cuddle them? just me like

woodysVTR
10th July 2010, 09:44
Two shots? Obviously didn't have Stopping Power on :P

In all seriousness, this was the likely outcome. He would of had nothing after this ordeal so he thought he took the best option.

Lew_C
10th July 2010, 09:46
Well said mate, as I said in the other thread, we are all products of everything that has gone before us. Moat made some bad decisions, coupled with what must have been a hard life and down the wrong path, obviously what happened to him after he got out of prison was enough to send him over the edge. He's responsible for his actions ultimately, but it's still a massive shame when you consider everything that has and may have contributed to everything that has happened. Apparently he shouted that nobody cared about him, he had no father or something, then when you see his mother saying he would be better off dead, it's not too surprising. If anything, he's another person that society has failed, and unfortunately it's lead to this...

exactly, im glad he is dead as society needs rid of people like this, however it is essentially society which has pushed him to be like this. I am no way condoning his actions as I think he is a worthless piece of shit for killing and injuring.

But for 1 man to stop a whole police force and have to bring the SAS in.. you will be remembered.. however much of a nutty tosser you were

tom130691
10th July 2010, 09:49
what a knob, i was watching this till about 1 then went to bed and missed all this :wall:

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 09:51
he didnt shoot himself mate, i was convinced he was going to, after 8 hours of hearing what you wanted to! POP? fair do's he had nout to live for did he? so why did at least 8 men dive on him? if i witnessed someone blow their top off..... last thing id do is cuddle them? just me like

The ambulance did not rush, so he was dead then

New update at 12pm today watch Sky news

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 09:58
The ambulance did not rush, so he was dead then

New update at 12pm today watch Sky news

i watched the lot mate, was on at my m8s, watched the ambulance bit about 5 times(more evidence repeat crap), the ambulance was in no hurry, why would it be, good sniper took a clean shot, there was nothing to announce and he was announced dead on arrival.

23carragold
10th July 2010, 09:59
The more you guys discuss this, the more I'm inclined to agree with you in relation to it being a cover up.

It makes sense. One close range shotgun blast is enough to kill you. Why did they jump on top of him if they knew he was dead?

Furthermore the absolute CUNTS that are the media branding him a crazy person etc obviously didn't help. The man clearly had issues and was handled with completely wrong.

stupotvtr
10th July 2010, 10:01
3pages and nobodys mentioned anything about gazza turning up steaming claiming to be his mate and saying he'll talk to him lol

tom130691
10th July 2010, 10:01
It makes sense. One close range shotgun blast is enough to kill you. Why did they jump on top of him if they knew he was dead?


exactly, if it was a dummy shot in the air by moat, then they wouldnt have jumped on him

they took him out at night so nobody could see

also they know how to check somebody's pulse they didnt need the ambulance for that lol

tom130691
10th July 2010, 10:02
3pages and nobodys mentioned anything about gazza turning up steaming claiming to be his mate and saying he'll talk to him lol

read the other thread :homme:

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 10:03
Gazza was off his trolley, pissed out of his head, he was talking to Real radio live, was a total embrassment

M1VT
10th July 2010, 10:04
read the other thread :homme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZHnWpLQtyo&feature=youtube_gdata
he has a fishing rod
and a can of lager haha

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 10:15
waited for cover of darkness as no radio chopper has thermal cameras, everyone so close would be under government gagging order. case closed, he had chance (if you can call it that) after so long the dont negotiate and take the best oppertunity, clearly the sniper hit on par, no effort to get him to hospital, there was choppers on standy, why drive him

davidharvey
10th July 2010, 10:18
I have been watching this all week about 6 hours a day.

I clearly have some kind of mental health issues

6 hours a day? Don't you have anything better to do?

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 10:19
Nope!

Been interesting so see all the twists and turns in this investigation

blackie_2k5
10th July 2010, 10:23
haha, theres been nout else on leeroy, we were forced to watch it!, BTW.... im actually an anti french catholic.....i cant even read about crime without facing some sort of medievel punishmne!!

tweedie
10th July 2010, 10:25
would rather him be in prison so he has to live with what he has done and recieve loads of dry bummings from leroy

Mike_08
10th July 2010, 10:29
On less to deal with. :y:

Morgzc
10th July 2010, 11:22
Two shots? Obviously didn't have Stopping Power on :P

In all seriousness, this was the likely outcome. He would of had nothing after this ordeal so he thought he took the best option.

Should have used fmj.

citroen_saxo_vtr
10th July 2010, 11:22
He dont deserve to live and im glad he has shot himself, he shot one innocent person and badly injured another two.......... nobody should get into that state you should never kill people, He knew what he was doing and knew he was going to die. I personally think the forces had a shot at him though.

-Jason-
10th July 2010, 11:29
Watched part of the repost and couldnt understand a word the police were saying lol.

Also how is leeroy still posting here when clearly he gave head to a shotgun last night?

fossie
10th July 2010, 12:31
Imo he took the cowards way out

leeroybrown
10th July 2010, 12:37
Hang on a second Fossie matey.

Taser was engaged, this could have caused him to accidently shoot himself.

If you know must this, your a policeman

KamRacing
10th July 2010, 12:44
waited for cover of darkness as no radio chopper has thermal cameras, everyone so close would be under government gagging order. case closed, he had chance (if you can call it that) after so long the dont negotiate and take the best oppertunity, clearly the sniper hit on par, no effort to get him to hospital, there was choppers on standy, why drive him

well its going to be pretty obvious whether it was a shotgun or not. From experience the results are not pretty on head shots.

M1VT
10th July 2010, 12:49
the shot didnt sound like a shotgun to be fair,more a rifle. Shotguns sound a bit more...bigger if you get what i mean?
Where as a rifle is more "smaller"?

MikeyW
10th July 2010, 12:54
I don't understand why the SAS were even involved in the negotiations part ? Surely police had it under control ? I mean yeah they could be used for the search part but there were enough armed officers on the scene to handle one guy surely.

Sparky26
10th July 2010, 13:05
they shot him with a taser so your lookin at either him shootin himself cause of that or was goin to shoot himself that made it go wrong hence the reason he wasnt pronounced dead straight the way

SaxoSam96
10th July 2010, 13:23
the shot didnt sound like a shotgun to be fair,more a rifle. Shotguns sound a bit more...bigger if you get what i mean?
Where as a rifle is more "smaller"?

The first shot is 100% a shotgun.

Lacey_106
10th July 2010, 13:53
It's a shame we will never know what truly happened in the lead up to this. I hope lessons can be learnt for future reference as this clearly hasn't been handled very well. I can only comment on what I've seen and he seemed like a very troubled man who felt like the world was against him.
It's a sad case for all involved.

23carragold
10th July 2010, 14:10
Raoul Moat was in actual fact...a spy.



Just throwing that one out there..

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 14:13
Game Over!

Why are all the Yorkshire Mandem tapped?

I think he was shot.The IPCC investigation will focus on whether the correct procedures were carried out by the force, and the circumstances that led up to Moat's death.

What amazes me, the first line of the story reads "Police have confirmed they shot Raoul Moat with a taser stun gun during last night's stand-off with Britain's most wanted man." but later down it says

"The six-hour stalemate on a Northumberland riverbank eventually came to an end when the 37-year-old shot himself dead at 1.15am."

It says a tazor was fired, but missed? (God knows how as they can only be used close range). To me, the police have given a lie here to cover up there mistake.

Whats more. If anyone shot there self in the neck with a SHOTGUN (Firearms experts said it is possible that the high voltage shock may have caused him to flinch and pull the trigger as he held the shotgun to his neck in the pouring rain.) you WILL be dead.

How did he 'Survive' and live for a few hours and later die in Hospital? I think the police shot him down.

POW

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 14:19
i watched the lot mate, was on at my m8s, watched the ambulance bit about 5 times(more evidence repeat crap), the ambulance was in no hurry, why would it be, good sniper took a clean shot, there was nothing to announce and he was announced dead on arrival.

They didn't give him any oxygen, drugs or medicines lol.

"Proceed to Newcastle Hospital dude, no need for the blues and 2's."

Lewis
10th July 2010, 14:21
You can survive being shot in the neck but close range with a shotgun would take your head off

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 14:26
You are very lucky if you do survive being shot in the neck. WITH A WATER GUN or only just nicks your skin if your shot from a distance by a pistol that shoots 'straight' in the line of fire.

But a shot gun sprays everywhere. It doesn't shoot a bullet 'straight' as such it 'sprays' many ball bearings. Close range with the barrel touching your neck, with a shot gun.. No chance.

rugman2298
10th July 2010, 14:34
one less twat on the street

Heliosphan
10th July 2010, 14:58
I've got sympathy with anyone with a name like "Raoul Moat", but........

End of the day, thousands of people suffer grief like he has but they don't usually shoot people and go on the run for a week.

Good riddance to the loon.

TomT
10th July 2010, 15:20
i feel sorry for the bloke! Granted he shouldnt have done what he did but still feel sorry for him

+1 .

Saxo_Scott
10th July 2010, 15:25
They think it's Raoul over.

...It is now.

Meto
10th July 2010, 15:28
No sympathy with him. Just because things have not worked out his way, doesn't mean he should go psycho.

If that was the case, 99% of the UK would go on a killing spree.

nappert
10th July 2010, 15:31
paul gascoigne is comin after ya all for slatin his buddy!!hehe. fuckin amazing eh-you'd think that gazza would've said "fuck him,I aint goin to help him-Im in a bad enough light as it is!"

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 16:00
paul gascoigne is comin after ya all for slatin his buddy!!hehe. fuckin amazing eh-you'd think that gazza would've said "fuck him,I aint goin to help him-Im in a bad enough light as it is!"

Pardon? I dont get one thing what you said ?

Krys_23
10th July 2010, 16:03
Supposedly it wasnt a copper who shagged his girlfriend it was neil lennon , Artur borac and Scott Brown..

nappert
10th July 2010, 16:07
i take it you never watched sky news last night.paul gascoigne turned up at the cordoned-off bit when moat had the gun to his head/neck. they were saying that gazza said he was a mate of his & wanted to talk to him etc.Oh shit-forget it mate.

MikeyW
10th July 2010, 16:09
i take it you never watched sky news last night.paul gascoigne turned up at the cordoned-off bit when moat had the gun to his head/neck. they were saying that gazza said he was a mate of his & wanted to talk to him etc.Oh shit-forget it mate.

Yeah we knew that, but what you said before made no sense at all :bored:

nappert
10th July 2010, 16:12
dont worry bout it
I'll get me coat then!!haha
I see on sky news that 2 police officers discharged their tasers!! Cant understand why they'd do that unless it was a case of bein a direct threat to the officers involved there. I wouldve thought that as his finger was probably on the trigger,and he'd been hit by the taser dart,it wouldve caused him to shoot himself.mmmm.I wonder!

VTHall
10th July 2010, 17:19
I feel its a cover up, if you watched it on the news you can slightly see green fires cuming from a distance. Even if i was seeing things, if you shoot yourself with a shotgun at point blank range, you will have no head left, let alone having to do it twice.

Chr15
10th July 2010, 17:31
yeah agree with the cover up theory

there was no raoul moat

theres no north east either.

snoboy
10th July 2010, 17:38
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n35/scotty19/SueSimm-1.jpg[/IMG]

No wonder it took so long to find him when you see who was in charge!

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 17:40
^^ Seriously????

Thats quackers!

snoboy
10th July 2010, 17:42
Yeah totally :fcuk:

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 17:47
Link on a news page of the Chief Leader or GTFO

snoboy
10th July 2010, 18:03
Seiously. Her name is Sue Simm. Check out the BBC news website and you will find it under the investigation part of the story. (not sure how to add the link,doh!)

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 18:04
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10586396.stm

Fair enough

I bet she will get a epic pay rise for doing absolutely jack shit but shouting "Shoot the fucker"

Tbh, her hair looks like the birds hair style ???

snoboy
10th July 2010, 18:07
Well spotted fella!
Think there is something in the whole tazer story,mayb it made him shoot himself when he was stunned?????

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 18:10
Well spotted fella!
Think there is something in the whole tazer story,mayb it made him shoot himself when he was stunned?????

Been discussed.

2 shots @ your own head with a shot gun :homme: Impossible

Sky news said officers missed him with the taser gun (Why were they that close if he had a gun anway)

Its far to earlie as there are so many mixed reports. As someone said, its funny how the SAS was drafted in and then he 'commited suicide' like within a day :wacko:

Who dares wins ;)

snoboy
10th July 2010, 18:13
Very true bud :afro:

vtrmann
10th July 2010, 18:17
just listened to gazza pissed as a fart on radio sayin hes brought him some chicken, dressin gown, fishin rod and a can a lager. gets even better. hahaha

Rogue_Shadow
10th July 2010, 18:31
Been really intrested in the story through the week. Hearing it when I jump in the van at work.
I personally don't believe he shot himself.
However just found this Video on the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10585521.stm)

Now correct me if Im wrong, but is that a "Single" Gunshot heard at the 11 second mark.
Its very hard to hear, with the rain and alot of background vocals.
But to me, a single shot is heard at the 11 second mark.
Leading me to believe, the Police shot him & then tazered him to keep him down.
Raoul Moat then later died in Hospital because wounds inflicted by the Police opening fire.

Theory ^^

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 18:40
Been really intrested in the story through the week. Hearing it when I jump in the van at work.
I personally don't believe he shot himself.
However just found this Video on the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10585521.stm)

Now correct me if Im wrong, but is that a "Single" Gunshot heard at the 11 second mark.
Its very hard to hear, with the rain and alot of background vocals.
But to me, a single shot is heard at the 11 second mark.
Leading me to believe, the Police shot him & then tazered him to keep him down.
Raoul Moat then later died in Hospital because wounds inflicted by the Police opening fire.

Theory ^^

I herd no shot. Nothing.I think you could be on a WinRAR with your theroy. I like it how he was shot and then tazered. Afterall, he declared war, so why would he shoot him self?

We'll probably never know the truth. It'll be like 9/11.. 101 questions to be answeared.

vtrmann
10th July 2010, 18:54
saame here couldnt make out when the shot was just a load of coppers shoutin. will be interesting to hear what the ipcc say then again their coppers anyway so wont do much.

Rogue_Shadow
10th July 2010, 19:05
I swear im not hearing things lol
Can definitely hear a shot being fire around the 11 second mark... & My laptop speakers are crap :D

Either way, its over now

MAXSTARR
10th July 2010, 19:12
RIP rambo 2

Predator_R32
10th July 2010, 19:19
lol at rambo, they drew first blood sarg


We are going to hear all kind of different stories at the end of the day, unless someone comes forward who was there ie one of the cops or negotiators then we will never know what had happened

vtrchris64
10th July 2010, 20:21
That BBC vid seems a bit short, this one shows before all the commotion.

You can see the police raising their guns and then hear shots fired, police then yelling "Put the gun away!"
Sounds like the police shot first to me.

Half way down.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Raoul-Moat-Kills-Himself-After-Stand-Off-With-Police-In-Rothbury-Police-Shot-Gunman-With-Taser/Article/201007215662595?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15662595_Raoul_Moat_Kills_Himself_Afte r_Stand-Off_With_Police_In_Rothbury%2C_Police_Shot_Gunman_ With_Taser

dannyboy2005
10th July 2010, 21:32
There were no helicopters?

Blates shot. You can hear the gun fire and police screaming. Can only assume they shot him in the leg/ seriously injured him and as he fell, he shot his gun hoping to shoot a officer/ him self.

Police were shouting to him to stay on the floor and he refused, so stunned him? (Which i'm not sure is true)

So many questions, yet little answers

Furio-92
10th July 2010, 21:33
Good, if i had a gun and had seen him, i would have shot the prick myself

nappert
11th July 2010, 14:42
Oh sue simm ya sexy bitch!!! (SICK!)I'll bet theres guys who'd love to shag her too!! Power trip!haha

leeroybrown
12th July 2010, 08:45
Crazy I know but I visited the house where he shot Mr Brown a week gone Saturday. (it was only 8 mile from me)

Window was all covered up were he had shot Sam, about 6 bunches of flowers and the imprint of a body on the grass

Caino
12th July 2010, 08:48
the prick deserves to be dead ..

VTHall
12th July 2010, 19:30
the prick deserves to be dead ..

No, imo he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life. Killing himself was an easy way out.