Other cars like the fabia vrs / cupra fr?

[CraigLovelock]

Hi.

Basicly im going to uni soon but am living at home still.

Will be driving maybe 20 mins down the motorway everyday and the vts will not be ideal!

I was looking at the fabia vrs since there nice and fast and still do 50mpg+ after a remap.

Any other cars worth looking at around the 4 - 6k mark that match the reqs?

Fast and fun / economical diesel?

[saxolenny]

fabia vrs ftw !!

[nicole_]

why wont the saxo be ideal for 20mins on a motorway?

[Cal]

Can a VTS do 50+ mpg?

[Mochachino]

Mk4 Golf GT TDI 130bhp 70mpg
Audi A3 2.0 Sport TDI 55/60mpg

[nicole_]

20mins is hardly far :S my vtr does 80miles(hour and a half) to £15 and thats with headgasket and it overfueling like mad, im sure a vts isnt unbearable

[CraigLovelock]

Its not that its not adequete (sp?)

Its just ide rather be getting double the mpg and also pay half the tax and insurance.

+ the ride in a saxo compared the vrs is painfull.

[VTR-Chris]

wouldnt say a fabia vrs was fast lol

[nicole_]

i feel these type of threads are bandwagon things, if people on saxp didnt say i want something luxurious to get down a motorway in, people on here would never want a skoda.
they didnt design saxos to be crap cars, they do motorwayds just fine, if it bothers you higher the saxo and put standard interior in and have it how its meant to be

[dankzy]

be different and get a mg zr 160 :) 36mpg average

[CraigLovelock]

i feel these type of threads are bandwagon things, if people on saxp didnt say i want something luxurious to get down a motorway in, people on here would never want a skoda.
they didnt design saxos to be crap cars, they do motorwayds just fine, if it bothers you higher the saxo and put standard interior in and have it how its meant to be

Point is. I actaully want a new car since im bored of the vts.

Fed up with the problems lately from it. Not saying i wont get probelms with the fabia... just using the odds.

Basicly set to get a fabia, just wanted to see what else there was.

And no there not 'fast'

But 330lb of torque is nothing to be sniffed at.

[Mochachino]

are my suggestions no good? :( lol

[CraigLovelock]

are my suggestions no good? :( lol

Browsing on pistonheads atm :)

Mums got a gt tdi though. Cant be having the same car lol :)

[Mochachino]

Buy hers, she can get somthing new!

[Peter_D]

Buy hers, she can get somthing new!

Doubt he wants to sit in her old semen stained seats

chortle chortle

[CraigLovelock]

True lol.

Still think i prefer the fabia though :y: bit different aswell for a young driver.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/ceveriss/IMG_1097.jpg

[Mochachino]

Doubt he wants to sit in her old semen stained seats

chortle chortle

:flush::ill::barf:

[Jordysport]

Fabia VRS ftw!!!

and how can you say that its not fast!!!! £295 remap, and its instantly at 193bhp and 310lbsft of torque, compared with a vts of 120bhp and about 100lbs ft
no brainer imo, better fuel MPG, more reliable (all VW parts) , faster, cheaper insurance, more luxurious, comfortable, 5dr , bigger i could go on for ages,
very good cars have them at work and most of them are on 240k thats mostly done at 120mph+ and only serviced regulary.

:y: :y:

[TypeRDavid]

wouldnt say a fabia vrs was fast lol

I think you may be pleasentley suprised mate!

One was right up my backside once going down the A5 , i asked him what he had had done he smiled and said he had had it mapped to 170 bhp, tbh i think at 130 they are quite nippy.

[Tommo87]

How about a 6n2 Polo 1.9 TDI, pretty much exact same as a Fabia but with better resale due to it being branded VW.

[D--R--E--W]

Fabia VRS ftw!!!

and how can you say that its not fast!!!! £295 remap, and its instantly at 193bhp and 310lbsft of torque, compared with a vts of 120bhp and about 100lbs ft
no brainer imo, better fuel MPG, more reliable (all VW parts) , faster, cheaper insurance, more luxurious, comfortable, 5dr , bigger i could go on for ages,
very good cars have them at work and most of them are on 240k thats mostly done at 120mph+ and only serviced regulary.

:y: :y:

240k miles and at over 120mph how do you know this?

[Aly]

Can a VTS do 50+ mpg?

I wouldn't put it past adsayer...

[saxo-maxo]

guy who said they are not fast got a type r, nuff said lol.

in all seriousness you definately want a oil burner ? seat leon cupra tdi ? or ibiza tdi ?

nice cars without the skoda badge.

[Wade]

I like the idea of a Fabia vrs or a Audi a3 tdi :)

[D--R--E--W]

guy who said they are not fast got a type r, nuff said lol.

in all seriousness you definately want a oil burner ? seat leon cupra tdi ? or ibiza tdi ?

nice cars without the skoda badge.

Stage1 map takes it to nearly 200bhp and over 300lbs of torque

Should either be sitting with or beating a typeR

[-shuggles-]

fabia seems a good idea:y:

seen a really nice one slammed on nice 'euro' wheels at EK cruise last year:y:

[D--R--E--W]

fabia seems a good idea:y:

seen a really nice one slammed on nice 'euro' wheels at EK cruise last year:y:

Keiths red one, on porche d90's

[moxy89]

VRS are very tunable, IE craig the one in sway, looks awesome front mounted intercooler can look the porn. get a VRS mate

[-shuggles-]

Keiths red one, on porche d90's

it wasn't red, was a weird colour of green

[sparky771]

Seat Ibiza FR Not the Cupra though (unless you can afford the extra insurance price)

The FR tdi = 130bhp A friend has one and he gets 50mpg and we got 75mpg on the lil readout once was ace!! was ticking over in 6th down a slight hill but still!
The Cupra tdi = 150bhp iirc

Same as golfs but without the stupid extra cash you pay just for the badge!!

[Fulch]

Some how I don't believe a VRS will do 50plus after a re map, my gf's unmapped does around 35, 40 on a motorway and my mates mapped does less

[Predator_R32]

Mapping vag cars makes them a whole new car tbh

[wadoryu]

i confused on what this VAG thing is can someone explain.

[0rang3peel]

Get a bora :) I have recently fallen in love with one down the road

[Robin91]

As long as you get some VAG you can't go wrong tbh! Cupra FR's are weapons when mapped up.

LOL @ ZR recommendation, stfu about them already!

[Tommo87]

Possibly for your budget an early MK5 Golf is worth a look.

[Fulch]

i confused on what this VAG thing is can someone explain.

VAG is any Audi, Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda, Porsche or Bugatti :y:

[wadoryu]

VAG is any Audi, Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda, Porsche or Bugatti :y:
cheers mate

[Robin91]

VAG is any Audi, Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda, Porsche or Bugatti :y:

+ Lamborghini + Bentley + Scania
Porsche isn't VAG

[haz_pro]

+ Lamborghini + Bentley + Scania
Porsche isn't VAG

Porsche is VAG.

Edit: In December 2009, Volkswagen AG bought a 49.9% stake in Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG (more commonly known as Porsche AG) in a first step towards an 'integrated automotive group' with Porsche. This was agreed between Volkswagen AG and Porsche SE during negotiations on the contracts of implementation relating to the merger of the two companies. The merger of Volkswagen AG and Porsche SE is scheduled to take place during the course of 2011

[Robin91]

Porsche is VAG.

Edit:

49.9%, not majority share. Merger PLANNED to take place is 2011. (We're in 2010 incase you havn't realised.)

Click here.
(http://www.volkswagenag.com/vwag/vwcorp/content/en/brands_and_companies/automotive_and_financial.html)

I think they know their own brands.

[Jamie]

Most mpg out of my VTS was 46mpg and regularly returns over 40 on motorways.

It's modded too.. 421- Decat Saxsport - Filter...

Drive like a fanny lol

[VTR-Chris]

I think you may be pleasentley suprised mate!

One was right up my backside once going down the A5 , i asked him what he had had done he smiled and said he had had it mapped to 170 bhp, tbh i think at 130 they are quite nippy.

i had a play with 1 a few weeks back an absolutely pwned him

[Predator_R32]

VAG stands for Volkswagen Audi Group

[Robin91]

VAG stands for Volkswagen Audi Group

It doesn't actually, that's what most people assume it means because in English that'd be logical.

It's actually Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft.

[D--R--E--W]

It doesn't actually, that's what most people assume it means because in English that'd be logical.

It's actually Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft.

Which means translated?Robin's a smartarse

[Robin91]

Which means translated?Robin's a smartarse

Volkswagen Incorporated iirc? They all do it. Porsche AG. Audi AG etc. But because Volkswagen technically owns all of the different brands, they just refer to them under the collective term, VAG.

[KINGVTS]

buying a more expensive car to save money on fuel is just silly, unless you are doing mega miles, you will only be saving a couple of quid a week with your commute

[Matt67]

buying a more expensive car to save money on fuel is just silly, unless you are doing mega miles, you will only be saving a couple of quid a week with your commute

He did say he wants a new car though, and not solely for that purpose.

[KINGVTS]

i might be selling my vrs soon, and i live in hedge end lol

get an old shitter if you are going to be leaving it in pompey or soton, will piss you off when it gets damaged

[titchster]

Stage1 map takes it to nearly 200bhp and over 300lbs of torque

Should either be sitting with or beating a typeR

Hondata K Pro and a map on the CTR then, just to be fair, yeah? You're just comparing a standard car to a modified one

[D--R--E--W]

Still won't be much in it tbh....

Mate Neil had a mk4 ibiza fr cupra. Can be the same engine in a Fabia. Exhaust done and a re-map. 184bhp ATW and 345lbs torque proven. Sat with my bud Baz's 367bhp proven evo5 all the way.

[jw1325]

one of the boys from Edinburgh Cruise has a pretty cool red VRS.

id defo go for one of them

[TipTopTom]

i had a play with 1 a few weeks back an absolutely pwned him

Circumstances?

I pwned a lambo in my VTR the other day.

He was doing 70 on the motorway, I easily overtook him doing 74.

From this I can deduce VTR's are better than supercars.

[jonezy]

Fabia VRS ftw!!!

and how can you say that its not fast!!!! £295 remap, and its instantly at 193bhp and 310lbsft of torque, compared with a vts of 120bhp and about 100lbs ft
no brainer imo, better fuel MPG, more reliable (all VW parts) , faster, cheaper insurance, more luxurious, comfortable, 5dr , bigger i could go on for ages,
very good cars have them at work and most of them are on 240k thats mostly done at 120mph+ and only serviced regulary.

:y: :y:

that must be more than a remap, or that turbo is at its limit, my 150 tdi is 190bhp and 310lbs/ft and it was quite an aggressive remap,

would say bye to the clutch and flywheel quite quick,


still, there is a youtube vid of one with a remap and jesus christ its quick, wish mine was that fast,

trying to find it now,

i went from a vtr to my leon and it doesnt save a great deal of money in fuel, a carfully driven vts will do not much less mpg than a sporty tdi like the vrs/fr.

[titchster]

They're the PD130, they've got the same turbo, IIRC, the only difference between them and your engine is that they run a side mount I/C and different cams, and less boost.

[KINGVTS]

ah found it!

http://www.silverlakeautoparts.co.uk/aucDetails.aspx?ID=21771

[sparky771]

VAG stands for Volkswagen Audi Group

Soon as i saw this i literally perked up and started to get ready to reply but then i saw the below and was like awww he beat me to it :(

'AG' is the german way of '& Co' etc