00emelee

[djx11b]

Believe to have been scammed by 00emelee for £84 for a magnex exhaust i purchased yesterday.

I saw the exhaust up for sale for £80 posted in the sales section I agreed on the price and asked him to send me a paypal address to send the money to. At first he said he didn't have a paypal account and he would sort one out I then received another pm shortly after giving me his paypal address to pay the money in to it.

I paid £84 as goods so covered by paypal and the £4 to cover the extra fees. He then pm'd me saying he couldn't get in to his paypal account as it had been suspended straight away (sounded fishy) and i would have to get my money back myself.

I have used payapl for 6 years + through ebay etc and only the seller or person who has received the money can refund the money once the payment has been sent. I confirmed with paypal the account was active and also with my creditcard company that the money had been paid to him as tried to stop it which i couldn't as it was already in his paypal account. Paypal told me even if the account was blocked for any reason any money in it or payment could be refunded as well in this situation.

I explained this to the seller who then has ignored me since yesterday and I notice he has been back online today and still has not replyed to my pm's so feel I have to post in this section now.

He has also done the exact same thing to jayyoung as well who had to claim his money back through a paypal claim which took him a month. I'm going to be making a claim with paypal and also letting my creditcard company know as well and if he can not explain the reason why he has done this or give me my money back would be looking for him to be banned as looks like he is scamming people as second time now he has done this !!!

[Paul]

You should be able to get your money back pretty easily, it will take about a month though. Good job you didnt pay via gift :y:

[Paul]

Why haven't you and jayyoung left him bad itrader? Thats what its there for.

When you dont leave them bad iTrader theres more chance someone else will get scammed by them.

[djx11b]

I was giving him the chance to answer my post or come back and sort this out before i done that. If jayyoung had left him some would have helped as wouldn't have paid him the money in the first place. Should i leave him it now ?

[Tom_Crx]

I was giving him the chance to answer my post or come back and sort this out before i done that. If jayyoung had left him some would have helped as wouldn't have paid him the money in the first place. Should i leave him it now ?
Yes, put in a paypal claim as well..

[djx11b]

Left the feedback to warn any other buyers and also I had filed a paypal claim last night so waiting for reply on that.

[Dan-Subtle]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4650554#post4650554

[Paul]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4650554#post4650554

Sorted. :A:

[00emelee]

refund has been issued, jayjay sent payment of 80 so was only 74 in end so payment reversed, it did not take him a month at all , was refunded when i finished work later that day, and i have replied to your pm, check your inbox.

[Paul]

You've had to issue two refunds and you've only been a member since April 2010. Not having much luck are you?

[Dan-Subtle]

This is the exact reason people should always leave itrader.

Hope you get your money back mate, should get it back A's you was wise and paid extra to cover fees instead of sending A's gift.

It's people like this seller who are ruining Saxp.

[Paul]

djx11b, Make sure you keep the thread up to date with regards of him offering refund etc. As he isn't allowed to sell until this is resolved.

[djx11b]

received this message just in from work

(sorry had to go to work, i have started the refund on paypal mate, and the funds have been held by paypal. you should receive them back into your account within a week.)

checked paypal account and no emails messages or refunds showing as pending on the account so will leave it a week and update this thread if i receive my money back or have to go through the claim route which is in motion.

[deks36]

received this message just in from work

(sorry had to go to work, i have started the refund on paypal mate, and the funds have been held by paypal. you should receive them back into your account within a week.)

checked paypal account and no emails messages or refunds showing as pending on the account so will leave it a week and update this thread if i receive my money back or have to go through the claim route which is in motion.

refunds are instant when i have refunded people the money has gone straight into their account,if you have opened a dispute you may need to upgrade it to claim if you havent already done so this will then put the funds on hold dont wait do it today to stop the funds being withdrawn from sellers account

[djx11b]

thats what i thought as well anytime i refund someone it will be instant or show in there account as being refunded and just money pending if it has been placed etc. I filed a claim straight after I beleive I was scammed which is giving the seller 10 days to reply before it goes to the next step. can't change that at the moment

I would have thought if the seller refunded me as well he would have answered the pending claim on his account to say the money has been refunded and asking me to close the case.

[saxo-parts]

and now he's advertising that he wants to buy an S engine, i've been scammed by buyers as well as sellers so won't be bothering to offer him anything

[00emelee]

im not a scammer, ive give him a refund but because hes opened a dispute the funds have been held!

[MikeYost]

Something seems very dodgy..

[deks36]

im not a scammer, ive give him a refund but because hes opened a dispute the funds have been held!

rubbish the dispute would be settled as son as you gave refund thats how paypal works he opens dispute you refund dispute closed if dispute is still open then you haven't given a refund
simple

[djx11b]

just a quick update checked my paypal account this morning as been busy all weekend and the seller has not replied to any messages from paypal and no refund has been issued either so he is clearly lieing about refunding the money as deks36 says the dispute would have been settled and the case closed.

[Jay_]

Ah ha....Only just seen this! yerp he did exactly the same to me. I then looked into his post and in one ad the magnex was on the car but he told me it was all boxed up ready to go. This was after i had paid, I know i should have checked first my bad....and how do you leave iTrader feedback...will go do it now....

I did eventually get my money back but through a paypal claim with 0 help from 00emelee

[djx11b]

If you go to there public profile page and at the bottom you can click to check itrader feedback then you should be able to submit feedback m8. Well at lease after this he won't be scamming anyone again on this site !!!

[djx11b]

well thats the 30th now had no refund been made and no reply made through paypal so paypal are now reviewing the case. will keep this updated.... but seller should be banned or banned from selling as scammed me and jayyoung and lied about this whole matter and in no way has tried to fix it.

[00emelee]

for everyone on here djx11b needs to check his paypal as the refund has been given and if any one doubts il post a screenshot on here for everyone to see.

[marcusd]

for everyone on here djx11b needs to check his paypal as the refund has been given and if any one doubts il post a screenshot on here for everyone to see.

so why not just post it clear your name then threads over then?

[00emelee]

ok np. il post it now

[00emelee]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/00emelee/f.jpg shows payment was reversed to buyer

[marcusd]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/00emelee/f.jpg shows payment was reversed to buyer

there u go no question now then is there

[00emelee]

thanks

[Dan-Subtle]

Should have never happened in the first place, you have still had the chaps money for over a week and not sent the goods he originally paid for.

Still a scammer In my eyes, don't take someones money if you have no intention of sending them the goods.

Should be banned from the for sale/wanted sections permanently.

Just shows how the itrader feedback does work if people leave it after every transaction.

[Tom_Crx]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l45/00emelee/f.jpg shows payment was reversed to buyer


Not really one to put my nose where it isn't involved but the white text box on that screen cap nicely placed over the date, sly, very sly

[deks36]

agree with above and for anyone who doesnt understand paypal this is exactly what happens when someone successfully opens a dispute about non receipt and paypal decide in their favour. this seller is trying to make out he has done the right thing when clearly buyer has had to go thru long drawn out process of paypal to get his funds back.
if seller had refunded voluntarily it would say refund sent where as it says reversal which is what paypal have done not seller

[djx11b]

I have received the payment through paypal yesterday just checked but only as it has been reversed from his account as paypal ruled in my favor over the dispute after having to wait since the 19th when i opened the dispute after the seller said he couldn't get the funds or refund me which i confirmed with paypal to be bulls**t as he could have refunded me and the matter would have been closed straight away. I have since had to wait all this time to get my money refunded and been out of pocket which means i received more interest on my creditcard payment as i had to buy another magnex from a proper seller on here who sent it within a couple of days.

So the matter has been sorted i agree with that but after doing this twice to 2 different members now in no way should you be aloud to trade on here again. that is my feelings on the matter up to admin what they decide to do.

[Tom_Crx]

I have received the payment through paypal yesterday just checked but only as it has been reversed from his account as paypal ruled in my favor over the dispute after having to wait since the 19th when i opened the dispute after the seller said he couldn't get the funds or refund me which i confirmed with paypal to be bulls**t as he could have refunded me and the matter would have been closed straight away. I have since had to wait all this time to get my money refunded and been out of pocket which means i received more interest on my creditcard payment as i had to buy another magnex from a proper seller on here who sent it within a couple of days.

So the matter has been sorted i agree with that but after doing this twice to 2 different members now in no way should you be aloud to trade on here again. that is my feelings on the matter up to admin what they decide to do.
Thats what the itrader system is for, i wouldn't trade with someone with a bad itrader, its the buyers decision and their risk to take