Stretched tyre law?

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Hey folks tried searching but couldn't find anything tbh.

One of my mates has a golf with stretched tyres and the police are trying to give him 12 points?

can anybody shed some light on the whole stretched tyre law?

cheers for any help.

[PSPDan]

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http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/24937-stretched-tyres-are-they-legal-or-not/

[Viper]

How stretched are his tires? I don't know any law on them but I completely agree if there is one.

[jonathon5]

were they bald ?

or just because they are the wrong size for rims ?

[saxo-parts]

if tyres are fitted within manufacturers spec i wouldn't have thought there was a deal they can do

[Tom_Crx]

Surely if it passed an MOT then they can't touch him...

[Viper]

if tyres are fitted within manufacturers spec i wouldn't have thought there was a deal they can do

Surely the manufacturer's spec is for the tire to be fitted to the same sized wheel as the tire?

[-shuggles-]

How stretched are his tires? I don't know any law on them but I completely agree if there is one.

not alot just 5-10mm max, I will get pictures off the car so that its alot easier to explain

[Jay_]

there can be 0 tread outside of the arch. so its has to just be stretch. but if it looks overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrly stretched then i dunno......

[-shuggles-]

there can be 0 tread outside of the arch. so its has to just be stretch. but if it looks overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrly stretched then i dunno......

that what i thought, theres no tread outside the arch

[saxo-parts]

i know that manufacturers recommend a certain width of rim for each tyre size, wether the police are able to enforce recommendations as law is another thing

[jonathon5]

was running weller wheels ?

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs208.snc1/7528_297795580577_598015577_9163666_1445540_n.jpg

This car really needs arch extensions, streteched tyres don't perform properly anyway

whu bother

[Viper]

i know that manufacturers recommend a certain width of rim for each tyre size, wether the police are able to enforce recommendations as law is another thing

Well if it's outside of the recommendations then surely they're unfit for use so there must be something enforceable about that. I certainly hope so anyway. I hate the idea of stretched tires.

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[MiniGibbo]

I have 205's on my 8.5j borbets with plenty of strech never had any problems.

Your mates probly stick out from the arches.

[M1VT]

that looks fine to me tbf
police beeing dics
get him to ask them what legislation/rule he's breaking

[jonathon5]

the car needs arch extensions from what i see

The wheels are wider than the arches , thats why he getting done.

[-shuggles-]

I have 205's on my 8.5j borbets with plenty of strech never had any problems.

Your mates probly stick out from the arches.

I've seen alot more stretch before on a car, wouldn't exactly say its over the top stretch

[Add91289]

but they didnt spot the number plate

[Beaniemoo]

Have any of the people commenting on stretch tyres on here ever, fitted, been in or driven a car with stretched tyres on it?
It's difficult to say what size tyre fit on what rims as the tyre width to wheel width varies, even on new cars.
Saying that I can't imagine some coppers, legal or not, like some people on this thread, would ever be happy with them. I know 1 mate of mine had to get his car recovered home after being pulled, though can't remember if they had a problem with the stretch or the poke

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but they didnt spot the number plate

Its not got that plate on it anymore

[Reechard]

Only thing wrong is the wheels might be sticking out further than the arch.
No way a 12 pointer, unless they are classing it as 3 points a corner.

Best bet is to get some arch extensions. Never heard of stretch being illegal.

[jonathon5]

He wants fining for not rounding the rear valence over the exhaust LOL

[-shuggles-]

Only thing wrong is the wheels might be sticking out further than the arch.
No way a 12 pointer, unless they are classing it as 3 points a corner.

Best bet is to get some arch extensions. Never heard of stretch being illegal.

Yeah there classing it as 4 illigal tyres

[jonathon5]

arch extensions

http://www.ocoop.com/images/MiniCity/mini-chrome-arches.gif

[MiniGibbo]

Banned trying to look good.. Golf-fail.

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arch extensions

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pic didnt work?

[Viper]

wheels out of arches are stupid. But so are big stretched tyres. Pointless in my eyes.

[Beaniemoo]

wheels out of arches are stupid. But so are big stretched tyres. Pointless in my eyes.

A well reasoned argument

[Reechard]

wheels out of arches are stupid. But so are big stretched tyres. Pointless in my eyes.

+1.....

[Marcos]

i thought the tread had to be under the arch and the rim isnt allowed to stick 3cm past the arch, thats what i read on the police forum a while back, and stretched tyres dont handle as bad as people think! and ripping the tyre off the rim is a myth! and drifters use stretched tyres so why dont theirs rip off?

[Tontsy]

Its legal...to an extent!
One, you can have upto 20mm of poke, aslong as this doesnt include legal tread! Dont forget a set % of your tyre can be bald and more so if the edge and shoulder of the tyre has step up tread!
Two, each rim has a specific size tyre for it! But withing spec you can fit above and below that tyre size! Each rim would be different.
Im not going to bother saying what wheel for what size tyre, but if you want to be safe you can drop upto an inch in width or above by an inch, aslong as you match the profile!

Does anyone actually realise there is more to a rim that the "j" what about h and i? The j doesnt mean width, it mean bead hight and iirc its about 13mm, depending on bead height can vary the strertch, try too much on a small bead and off it popps!

And aslong as you stay withing your poke limits, and know your tyre, how much can be bald, you can take it to the ministry and walk away with a smile on your face!

[Tontsy]

i thought the tread had to be under the arch and the rim isnt allowed to stick 3cm past the arch, thats what i read on the police forum a while back, and stretched tyres dont handle as bad as people think! and ripping the tyre off the rim is a myth! and drifters use stretched tyres so why dont theirs rip off?

Tyres wont come off a rim? Your a fucking titmate, i worked with a guy who fitting strech, come off on the motorway and now hes in the slammer for manslaughter!

Like i said, therre is a limit for each rim!

[Marcos]

got proof as plenty of people say they have ripped off but theres no proof anywere, every tryed to take a stretched tyre off? last time i had mine take off they changed a full set of normal tyres to fitting one stretchd tyre as they couldnt remove it, and depends how extreme you go on stretch, chandlers saxo ran 195s on a 9j thats stupid stretch which wont bead, running subtle like a 225 will bead

[MiniGibbo]

I run 205 on a 8.5j happly and wouldnt think twice about running 225 on a 10j.

[Robin91]

I've got stretched tyres front and back, front's are a tiny stretch. Rears are running 225's, I think they're meant to be 265 - so not the worlds biggest stretch but a fair stretch.

The apparent 'risk' with stretched tyres is there's a risk of the bead braking and the tyre deflating, equivalent to having a blow-out. However to be at risk of this happening you'd have to have a MASSIVE stretch. It's not illegal to have stretched tyres, mine passed MOT with them last week absolutely fine, as long as the entirety of the tread of the tyre is under the arch it's fine.

Edit: Rear rims are 10.5" iirc.

[MiniGibbo]

You mother fucker vw's running "real" car rims :P

Ive seen this done on many forums, pictures of cars drifintg,track daying etc etc.. Only thing you need to do relly is keep on top of your pressures and youll be fine.

[Robin91]

You mother fucker vw's running "real" car rims :P

Ive seen this done on many forums, pictures of cars drifintg,track daying etc etc.. Only thing you need to do relly is keep on top of your pressures and youll be fine.

10psi all round, right?

[Marcos]

i know a 225 is meant for a 8j rim, take it your or porsche alloys robin? bet they way shit loads i had 9j all round n they weighed 21kg each, i ran 3bar in mine was only subtle stretch though

[Robin91]

i know a 225 is meant for a 8j rim, take it your or porsche alloys robin? bet they way shit loads i had 9j all round n they weighed 21kg each, i ran 3bar in mine was only subtle stretch though

So 2.5 inch stretch then! Yeah it's on the Porkers. They're pretty heavy, never weighed them though!

[VTomR]

ive been pulled countless times and the old bill always comment on the stretch of my wheels, makes me laugh as they always ask me a dozen questions about them, and then let me go on my way. I think there just intrigued tbh. one policeman described them as ballooned tyres which made me chuckle lol.

[Tontsy]

got proof as plenty of people say they have ripped off but theres no proof anywere, every tryed to take a stretched tyre off? last time i had mine take off they changed a full set of normal tyres to fitting one stretchd tyre as they couldnt remove it, and depends how extreme you go on stretch, chandlers saxo ran 195s on a 9j thats stupid stretch which wont bead, running subtle like a 225 will bead

Im an mot tester and a tyre fitter... Ive fitted and removed stretched. Ivefailed and passed poke!
Complete bs to anyone who says its hard to remove strech! Blowing them up is abit of a shitter but changing the tyre over itself takes all over 30 fucking seconds!

I change easily over 100 tyres a day ;)

And anything will bead, its just making it sit SAFE! Ive had 120! space savers on 6.5" steels!

[Marcos]

tyre garage i use must be useless then, they struggles like fuck with them

[0rang3peel]

Every manufacturer has differant guidelines / policies on it, There is a few very good links to the police forums regards this and also regarding banding steels etc I will dig them up later!

[yorkie]

if tyres are fitted within manufacturers spec i wouldn't have thought there was a deal they can do

Bingo!

[yorkie]

Now i see that realky not a problem that alot of police know really know the law on this yet i heard this problem quite abit lol

[Paul]

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http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/24937-stretched-tyres-are-they-legal-or-not/


Really good read that thread, thanks.

Took me over half a hour to read though lol.