Road Racing ........... Serious

[jonathon5]

Ok this is a serious question :

What do you think to road racing ? i.e going head to head with another car & often drive at stupid speeds to see who's car is fastest.

Is it just too risky these days ? or just harmless fun ?

I ask this question due to reading a news story the other day of a young lad in a fast car who lost his life, allegedly racing at high speed.


" I am not going reveal what my thoughts are quite yet as I want to see what the score is these days"

[Lacey_106]

Idiots.

[nicole_]

like arranged drag racing up dead streets
or seeing another modified car at the lights and racing him off?

[Dom]

Depends on the road and the situation, if the driving is not reckless then I don't see a problem with it on the correct type of roads in the right conditions.

i.e. Dry night, street lights, wide empty road. & Not involving any little 1.1's imo. Driving enthusiasts only.

or B road warriors.

[23carragold]

In all honesty before anyone says I'm on a bandwagon..

Cunts. Any idiot who races on the street endangers everyone around them. If you want a thrill or whatever, fuck off to a track where you aren't putting peoples lives at risk.

[NickJ]

If you're potentially putting others at risk by racing, I think it makes you a bit of a c-unit

If the only person you're putting at risk is yourself, then don't really see a problem, although it is quite selfish to friends / family should you fook it up

[barrett]

Stupid! Save it for the track / drag strip!

Get the impression you think it's fine!

[raunchz]

I'm up for it within legal limits - racing beyond the point at which it becomes dangerous is silly.

Sometimes peoples ego's overtake their driving talent........ this will invariably lead to an accident

[jonathon5]

like arranged drag racing up dead streets
or seeing another modified car at the lights and racing him off?

Just coming across another car who is game, or arranged races,

Non traffic light grand prix stuff, or the empty street suff.


just full on .

[MrHouston]

Risky fun ;)

orly

[Paul]

Its far too risky. You never know what can be around the next corner. Where as if you're on a race track its much safer, theres no chance a kid could be crossing the road further down etc.

Plus there is way too many police these days, especially undercovers.

I don't mind having a 'litte play' down an empty carriage way, or going for spirited drive over some country roads late at night / early morning.

When i see bell ends with their music turned right up, bouncing their cars off the limiter up and down a main road it really annoys me. Or on a busy motorway when you see bell ends trying to get you to race them.. whats the point? Half the time i know by looking at their car who's got the fastest car.

[Lacey_106]

Stupid! Save it for the track / drag strip!

Get the impression you think it's fine!

+1 :y:

I'm up for it within legal limits - racing beyond the point at which it becomes dangerous is silly.

Sometimes peoples ego's overtake their driving talent........ this will invariably lead to an accident

Most people cannot judge driving conditions and don't know their driving limit.

For this reason I think its idiotic.

[fraggle_VTR]

it's dangerous, it's illegal.
but that is why people will do it, it's fun. we have all done it to some extent i have done and will again.

similar situation to people who smoke, drink or take drugs in that it is dangerous and risky. but they still do it!

[Mochachino]

I'm up for it within legal limits - racing beyond the point at which it becomes dangerous is silly.

Sometimes peoples ego's overtake their driving talent........ this will invariably lead to an accident

Agree with this really.

I dont do any off the lights shit, i think thats highley immature going as fast as you can from the lights. Say your beside another car and you come off a roundabout onto a long 70mph duel carraidgway with no cars then il toy with it there, up to/jus past the limit, but i really honestly dont give a shit about past them speed, its all accelaration to 80ish that botheres me!

Definatly nothing within built up areas, or with other public on the roads at risk.

Not driving beyond my or the cars limits, and not taking any risks.

Never race cars on country roads either, only drive to my own limits and i dont push the car as far as it will go, i just drive enthusiastically.

[BenSilverSaxo]

Love it....

[Dom]

Agree with this really.

I dont do any off the lights shit, i think thats highley immature going as fast as you can from the lights. Say your beside another car and you come off a roundabout onto a long 70mph duel carraidgway with no cars then il toy with it there, up to/jus past the limit, but i really honestly dont give a shit about past them speed, its all accelaration to 80ish that botheres me!

Definatly nothing within built up areas, or with other public on the roads at risk.

Not driving beyond my or the cars limits, and not taking any risks.

Never race cars on country roads either, only drive to my own limits and i dont push the car as far as it will go, i just drive enthusiastically.

Probably sums up most peoples thoughts on here. Like everyone has never tested against another car, after all, most people on here drive a Saxo.

[sparky771]

my boss used to do time trials around where lived in old escorts haha but that was back in the day when hardly anybody drove cars.

I personally think on open public roads its stupid. but on closed organised road rallyes its fine :D

[VTR-Chris]

at the end of the day, everyone does it.

but theres a time n a place...

[NickJ]

it's dangerous, it's illegal.
but that is why people will do it, it's fun. we have all done it to some extent i have done and will again.

similar situation to people who smoke, drink or take drugs in that it is dangerous and risky. but they still do it!

I would say it's pretty difficult to kill someone instantly while smoking / drinking / drugs

Hope you get caught and banned at somepoint :y:

[Mr_X]

there is a time and a place,

i wouldnt frown upon anyone who does it on an empty road in a safe environment.

[BenSilverSaxo]

it's dangerous, it's illegal.
but that is why people will do it, it's fun. we have all done it to some extent i have done and will again.

similar situation to people who smoke, drink or take drugs in that it is dangerous and risky. but they still do it!

Thoughts on doing a bit of street racing whilst smoking/drinking and taking drugs?

[MiniGibbo]

Im game for a couple of gears blast but out and out is a nono from me relly..

[jonathon5]

Wow , very interested in these answers.

Road Racing for my generation was an acceptable past time, everybody did it.

I mean everybody even your Dad had raced in his 1.6 GL Sierra against other middle aged blokes in Montegos LOL. its true.


We used to race every day & night non stop, it became an addiction. Never a day went by without a race with someone ................ How things have changed.

Looking back I have been involved in some stupidly dangerous racing at 150 mph + over the years. But its how we were brought up , our generation (people did get killed, but it was sort of accepted) now its shocking.

Remember there was no mobile phones, internet, 24hour news, so thats why maybe it was not so heard of.


But tonight for the first time ever , I had the chance of a battle with a porsche over a windy road that I know very well.

But I did not bother, maybe my attitude has also changed to.

I am glad to see there is some sensible young ones on hear :y:

[Dane1]

take it to the track :y:

[fraggle_VTR]

I would say it's pretty difficult to kill someone instantly while smoking / drinking / drugs

Hope you get caught and banned at somepoint :y:

untwist your knickers missy.

[Mochachino]

Funny you say the Sierra and the Montego as my dad actually did have that race when i was like 5 down a duel carriadgway only to 70mph though, so nothing risky or stupid considering his son was in the car at the time. We was in the Montego btw (still got the wheeltrim on my garage wall lol)

Its wierd u sayin racing night n day though. My saxo looks faster than it is, but still only attracted the odd middle aged business man in his german saloon toy with me.

[Paul]

Interesting how the times have changed Jonathon,

How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Or if you prefer, How long ago was it that it was deemed an acceptable past time?

I think alot of people still do think of it as an acceptable past time, but luckily on this website we don't have many of them people. I know if this got asked on one of the local 'cruising' websites there would be alot of different answers.

[Jay_]

I am from the Isle of Man *covers my back before the Sax-P speed police come along*

Even last night i was in a de-restricted zone, following a Civic, civic booted it, I followed, ended up doing bout 110ish then we backed off and had a few quick corners but dropped the speed to the limits when we entered a speed limited area. I know people will slag me off now but hey ho you lot dont know me!

I regularly play with other motors. When it looks dangerous I back right off and let them go - I know my limits and never drive near them when others are involved. And i only ever do this when i am in the car on my own!

EDIT: I never organise races etc etc I just play with people/mates. Just fun.

[jonathon5]

Funny you say the Sierra and the Montego as my dad actually did have that race when i was like 5 down a duel carriadgway only to 70mph though, so nothing risky or stupid considering his son was in the car at the time. We was in the Montego btw (still got the wheeltrim on my garage wall lol)



Your Dad is old school at heart :y:

[Tom]

People say "everyone does it" alot, but I can honestly say I don't race people on the road, ever.

On the way back from work I noticed a couple of cars catching me very fast, turned out to be a BMW playing with an Evo, easily 100+ on a long straight country road. On open stretches of road with no one about I'm not gonna complain, anywhere where there is a chance of taking someone out with you when you fuck it up is completely retarded.

[jonathon5]

Interesting how the times have changed Jonathon,

How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Or if you prefer, How long ago was it that it was deemed an acceptable past time?

I think alot of people still do think of it as an acceptable past time, but luckily on this website we don't have many of them people. I know if this got asked on one of the local 'cruising' websites there would be alot of different answers.

I got my license at 17 in 1991, Everybody back then had fast cars. every other car was either a 5 gt turbo, XR2, XR3i, 205 GTi, Astra GTE etc or SRi of some kind. There was no speed cameras & police were to busy catching criminals.

I had a big power XR2 back then, This was before The max power ever existed.


We just used to fill the car up with 4 star fuel & go out looking for a race. It never took long to find one.

Or just pop down to your local seaside car park , plenty of racers there.


There was one car park in Redcar which if you had a half quick car you could hit 85 mph before chucking the handbrake on. Normally 3 cars would race side by side end to end over & over , with all the other cars parked round the side watching.

If the score was not settled there , then it was time to hit the local roads.

[TomT]

If you're potentially putting others at risk by racing, I think it makes you a bit of a c-unit

If the only person you're putting at risk is yourself, then don't really see a problem, although it is quite selfish to friends / family should you fook it up

I agree tbh,

Also, I'll never race or anything with people in the car.

If I crash and kill myself it's one thing, if I crashed and killed a friend.. that's something else

[BenSilverSaxo]

I got my license at 17 in 1991, Everybody back then had fast cars. every other car was either a 5 gt turbo, XR2, XR3i, 205 GTi, Astra GTE etc or SRi of some kind. There was no speed cameras & police were to busy catching criminals.

I had a big power XR2 back then, This was before The max power ever existed.


We just used to fill the car up with 4 star fuel & go out looking for a race. It never took long to find one.

Or just pop down to your local seaside car park , plenty of racers there.


There was one car park in Redcar which if you had a half quick car you could hit 85 mph before chucking the handbrake on. Normally 3 cars would race side by side end to end over & over , with all the other cars parked round the side watching.

If the score was not settled there , then it was time to hit the local roads.

Sounds pretty decent tbh. Not enough of this kind of thing going on anymore.

[Mochachino]

I agree tbh,

Also, I'll never race or anything with people in the car.



Ye thats somthing else, i wont if their car has loads of poeple in or mine has, as it isnt a fair race then added weight etc.

ok i jooke, but i still dnt race with bare mandem abourd!

[piranhamatt]

I do it with friends at lights or roads occasionally, but there is a limit.

My rules are: No overtaking people in towns, or corners
Always brake when close to anyone, and never take risks. The outcome would just screw you over whatever happens

[jonathon5]

Sounds pretty decent tbh. Not enough of this kind of thing going on anymore.

That could be a good thing ............. maybe.


Why don't people do more track days ?

[Robin91]

Personally I think on something like a dual carriageway, late at night, if it's completely clear with no traffic or pedestrians about, having a big of a 'drag' race so to speak is safe enough. But obviously it's never going to be legal, and given the amount of police there are around these days trying to catch people out, it's not worth the risk.

Racing on regular roads/built up areas if just pointless, good chance of an accident occurring and even more likely to run into police. As much fun as a bit of harmless racing can be/seem, you can't get away with it and most of the time it is plain stupid/dangerous.

[Peter_D]

Aslong as it is safe enough

I've raced lots of people, but if we come across traffic and they do a stupid overtake, thats me finished i'll just hang back...some people just get so desperate to get away from you.. IMO if you are racing someone and theres traffic infront, just wait til it's safe for you both to overtake and then carry on...some people go about it as if they have to lose the car that's behind them, so a dodgy overtake on a blind corner and they are away and somehow think they've won...it's not about stupid risk taking it's about seeing who is faster

Fair enough lose them on the bends and disappear into the horizon, but don't do anything wreckless to gain advantage

One guy i raced in my Rallye he had a 260bhp Leon Cupra...and i was away after the first dinky corner but he caught and overtook on the straight (although i had to back off as it was approaching a corner).. Then onto the corner and i was behind him instantly BUT...he crossed the white line on a blind corner and had to swerve back to his own side when he met a fleet of 4 or 5 cars...then he did it AGAIN on the next corner so i just hung back...didn't want to be near him and to associate my car with his bad driving, like if someone reports him and says there was a white Rallye chasing him, i didn't wanna be involved

Aslong as it isn't wreckless then i don't mind it at all

*Only on track though, wouldn't do it on a public road, all my experiences were on private roads or on track*

[Jay_]

That could be a good thing ............. maybe.


Why don't people do more track days ?



costs me 90 quid for 3 hours on a rubbish track. Costs alot so people cant afford it!

[Robin91]

Aslong as it is safe enough

I've raced lots of people, but if we come across traffic and they do a stupid overtake, thats me finished i'll just hang back...some people just get so desperate to get away from you.. IMO if you are racing someone and theres traffic infront, just wait til it's safe for you both to overtake and then carry on...some people go about it as if they have to lose the car that's behind them, so a dodgy overtake on a blind corner and they are away and somehow think they've won...it's not about stupid risk taking it's about seeing who is faster

Fair enough lose them on the bends and disappear into the horizon, but don't do anything wreckless to gain advantage

One guy i raced in my Rallye he had a 260bhp Leon Cupra...and i was away after the first dinky corner but he caught and overtook on the straight (although i had to back off as it was approaching a corner).. Then onto the corner and i was behind him instantly BUT...he crossed the white line on a blind corner and had to swerve back to his own side when he met a fleet of 4 or 5 cars...then he did it AGAIN on the next corner so i just hung back...didn't want to be near him and to associate my car with his bad driving, like if someone reports him and says there was a white Rallye chasing him, i didn't wanna be involved

Aslong as it isn't wreckless then i don't mind it at all

*Only on track though, wouldn't do it on a public road, all my experiences were on private roads or on track*

Oncoming traffic on a track? That's a new twist to racing I've yet to hear of!

[Mochachino]

costs me 90 quid for 3 hours on a rubbish track. Costs alot so people cant afford it!

Then wear n tear on the car. It aint that though, its becouse when your on the road poeple cant resist competitiveness, we dont get on the road and immediatly go right, im not competitive anymore.

Its like going to the red light district and going, right, not horney no more, not interested in sex.

[Paul]

I got my license at 17 in 1991, Everybody back then had fast cars. every other car was either a 5 gt turbo, XR2, XR3i, 205 GTi, Astra GTE etc or SRi of some kind. There was no speed cameras & police were to busy catching criminals.

I had a big power XR2 back then, This was before The max power ever existed.


We just used to fill the car up with 4 star fuel & go out looking for a race. It never took long to find one.

Or just pop down to your local seaside car park , plenty of racers there.


There was one car park in Redcar which if you had a half quick car you could hit 85 mph before chucking the handbrake on. Normally 3 cars would race side by side end to end over & over , with all the other cars parked round the side watching.

If the score was not settled there , then it was time to hit the local roads.

Great enthusiasm, in a way its a shame that its a dieing culture now.

My neighbour used to often talk about racing around that time, he got his mark 2 astra GTE in 1989-1990. I remember him taking me out in it when i was about 6, what a ride. I'll never forget him driving over the tops, with me in the passenger seat looking across at the bright digital dials shouting 'faster faster'.

The GTE is still on his drive now, 20 years later, covered in dirt and rusting away. He'll never sell though i don't think.

[Jay_]

Then wear n tear on the car. It aint that though, its becouse when your on the road poeple cant resist competitiveness, we dont get on the road and immediatly go right, im not competitive anymore.

Its like going to the red light district and going, right, not horney no more, not interested in sex.


Exactly, perfect example!!

[jonathon5]

[QUOTE=Paul;4664953]

My neighbour used to often talk about racing around that time, he got his mark 2 astra GTE in 1989-1990. I remember him taking me out in it when i was about 6, what a ride. I'll never forget him driving over the tops, with me in the passenger seat looking across at the bright digital dials shouting 'faster faster'.

QUOTE]

A GTE was a bit of a straightline weapon back then, they went like fuck on dual carriageways. You always had to work out whether it was a valver or not before the game began LOL

Valvers were a secret weapon , the could really shift 140 mph worth.


Meeting a GTE 16 valve on a dual carriage way often was game over.

[vts-dave]

i race on the roads and i guarantee most of you lot do aswell shit happens get over it stop tryin to be cool and say you dont do it

Cunts

[Meto]

Don't race, probably never will. Stupid place to do it on the road, but I suppose it is arguably more acceptable late at night when no-ones around.

[Barber90]

^ Mmmmmm cobalt gti :y:

[citroen_saxo_vtr]

I do now and then when i get a chavvy oponent..... I like it when they come along side on a dual with there 1.1 chavved up or vtr thinking they have the same engine as me because of the vtr badges in my doors then i drop down into 3rd and leave them... fun fun to watch there faces as u pull away.

[tom130691]

i drive sportingly against other cars not arranged street racing, but i no my limits and wont attempt anything silly live overaking on roundabouts and if im behind i brake way before anything that iscoming up ect

rarely react to other drivers if i f have somebody in the car as i wouldnt be able to deal with it if i killed somebody

[CHIP]

db_sax knows the score... To me he's spoken the most sense as far as the real world is concerned.

I would guess most of the female's of the forum wouldn't be guilty of having a play at lights (nothing sexual ;)) but certainly 99% of males do it, even if they don't admit to it.
And with some of the stories my dad has told me from when he was younger i'm nowhere near as bad as he was at my age. But he was still very careful...

Be all and end all of it is - if you say you've never driven enthusiastically with another car there's a 99% chance you're bullshitting.

Obviously you have to be careful and there's a time and a place for it and as i said, i think Danny & Raunchz pretty much summed it up for us.

[Jay_]

my dad was getting me to drive quick and safe when i was learning! He still comes out and teaches me a few things but its all safe!

[tom130691]

look at our car now we use compared to what they had obviously driver skill comes in but are cars handle and brake better nowadays and some are safer,

[illesthype]

Race mates loads, usually on motorways at night time though.

racing casuals is boring imo

don't flame the newbie haha.

[Peter_D]

I condone safe street racing

[timmythechef]

Personally i dont bother, as i got a furio, dont get me wrong tho, if a knob in a 5 door clio from '95 comes up my arse, il drop him, but will always slow down to whatever speed i was going before, and watch them overtake me, as if its put an extra inch on their dick!

And back to what jonathan's on about, when my mother and father got married, (80's), they dipped into their saving and bout a caviler sri (might be a gsi, im not from that era, but it was the 'hot car of its day'), and how he used to go 120/130 on the motoways, and how fast it was etc, but you cant get away with it these days.

[KamRacing]

everyone has driven enthusiastically. I've played with cars but racing is where you pretty much do anything to win, including driving beyond yours or your opponents talent.
I personally will still drive fast sometimes but I dont consider chasing another car up the road as real racing;its a little boring as you know you cannot drive to your limits. I go and race for real and I get a far bigger buzz. I can then push as much as I dare without having to consider the safety of others around me. I spend my time on the road improving techniques for when I am on the track such as left foot braking, listening to the traction of the tyres, trying to feel how the car is reacting through my body etc. Nothing requires great speed but i'm happily occupied through the journey.

Kev

[MiniGibbo]

everyone has driven enthusiastically. I've played with cars but racing is where you pretty much do anything to win, including driving beyond yours or your opponents talent.
I personally will still drive fast sometimes but I dont consider chasing another car up the road as real racing;its a little boring as you know you cannot drive to your limits. I go and race for real and I get a far bigger buzz. I can then push as much as I dare without having to consider the safety of others around me.

Kev

I have the exact same thaughts, Few gears blast but no where near 100%

[dannyhall]

We've all done it. When I was younger I was a knob, always up for a play regardless of the time or the place. I remember overtaking a S2K in my old Saxo on a blind bend and struggling get past a Astra VXR whilst on coming traffic was coming at me (wide road btw) - both incidents late at night and on national speed limit roads, but only did it for the 'rush'.. Used to always regret it though and vow never to do it again.

No point in my car nowadays, i'll waste them and if I come to a bend i'll probs be in a tree. And plus if I get done for dangerous driving bye bye my new job.

Ive always known the consequences of my actions but temptation used to get the better of me. Part of growing up I guess....

[Heliosphan]

I used to race all the time when I was younger, not big or clever though.

I think people who say they only race when it's safe to do so are the kind of people who end up having an accident. It's like saying, it won't happen to me but it invariably does. The exact same argument comes up when you talk about using a mobile phone.

I'm not going to lecture anyone who races because I've done it myself loads but ultimately it proves nothing other than which driver is most prepared to kill themselves or someone else.

[jonathon5]

Cars are deffo much safer than back in the day. Some of the old hot hatches had lethal on the limit handling. You used to often see 205 gti's burried in hedge backs or cars embedded in sign posts as the had locked up & gone straight on. No abs or stabity management back then , come to think of it no powered steering either.

[FlowDan]

everyone has driven enthusiastically. I've played with cars but racing is where you pretty much do anything to win, including driving beyond yours or your opponents talent.
I personally will still drive fast sometimes but I dont consider chasing another car up the road as real racing;its a little boring as you know you cannot drive to your limits. I go and race for real and I get a far bigger buzz. I can then push as much as I dare without having to consider the safety of others around me. I spend my time on the road improving techniques for when I am on the track such as left foot braking, listening to the traction of the tyres, trying to feel how the car is reacting through my body etc. Nothing requires great speed but i'm happily occupied through the journey.

Kev

sorry if this sounds nooby but when would you use left foot braking, im always heeling and toeing on track but never thought left foot braking was ever needed?

[FlowDan]

ah unless your using an automatic or flappy paddle gear box?

[Heliosphan]

Cars are deffo much safer than back in the day. Some of the old hot hatches had lethal on the limit handling. You used to often see 205 gti's burried in hedge backs or cars embedded in sign posts as the had locked up & poised straight on. No abs or stabity management back then , come to think of it no powered steering either.

Because of the fact that cars nowadays are so much safer, I'm sure some people think they're indestructible and don't anticipate ever having an accident.

Maybe a 6 inch metal spike on the steering wheel would be the best safety feature you could ever have.

[FlowDan]

well after a quick google ive watched a few videos and read a few bits and now understand why you would use your left foot to brake :D

[Krys_23]

Really liking the responses in here, as most have said 90% on here have done it, I have had the odd run in with a chav who i will happily make a fool of ( Well i used to ) MG ZR's as opponents were a must for me in the stripped vtr :D

But i seriously never push a car to 100% on the road ever, i take corners at decent speed but nothing dangerous, never do any dangerous overtaking and dont even attempt to pass anything with mad power if its infront of me.

[AXracing]

Cars are for the most part the most deadly thing people come in to regular contact with. This is why on average around 11 people are killed a day ( yes DAY ) in the UK on the road with statically most are younger drivers of witch most are due to inappropriate driving. After having friends killed and my self very nearly killed I am very much against people racing on the road. Most people who do race on the roads would not even have the skills to do it on the track and in so would not be permitted. So what the hell gives them the right to do it on the road? Yes we all do daft things especially when where younger my self included but to condone such actions is ridiculous.

[Jarhead]

As a few have already said in the thread, occasionally I will come up next to someone on some traffic lights and will race them up to an comfortable speed. I usually let them go ahead after that, because I am not willing to risk a crash for beating some other car.

I only ever do it at night though, and never in towns centres or anywhere with lots of parked cars or houses. Motorway junctions, dual carraige ways. Places where if something happened no pedestrian could get hurt. Its very rare this happens at all though.. Had a little play with a civic and a leon the other day, but I dont remember the last time I did before that.

[minxymears]

Im surprised no one has brought up car condition/maintenance/modifications and relevant experience.

Personally, I enjoy driving enthusiastically, it does things for me nothing else can...

But by that I dont mean dangerously/stupidly, or through a town centre.

I prefer a B-Road blast on my own...

I have a B road blast every morning to work so know the road relatively well, now have 4 years (accident free) driving experience [I know its not 40 years, but the point I'm making is I didnt just pass last week], and have a VTS with good suspension, tyres and brakes... so surely its more acceptable me having a bit of fun and enjoying driving than Dave who passed last week in his 12 year old 1.1 with knackered sus, budget pads and skinny worn Nakajima tyres....

Just like its even more acceptable for my old man to drive even more enthusiastically with 35 years of driving experience behind him in progressively quicker and more powerful cars.... in cars that have ridiculously clever brakes and suspension with Pirelli P Zero's on each corner ... its not a flat 'yay or nay' for every single person...

[ashpearse]

Someones deffos been watchin paul walker tearing da streeetz up in his million bhp supra tonight.

Got 10-1 odds on the next thead being about "Racing for slips in my 2 fast 2 furio :homme:

[Lilreg999]

I love it at traffic lights when a idiot pulls next to me revving his engine.. I just look at them, go along with it tap my throttle a few times (to about 3000rpm)... then as the lights change pull of normal.. watch him race off and make a cock of himself

[tom130691]

Im surprised no one has brought up car condition/maintenance/modifications and relevant experience.

Personally, I enjoy driving enthusiastically, it does things for me nothing else can...

But by that I dont mean dangerously/stupidly, or through a town centre.

I prefer a B-Road blast on my own...

I have a B road blast every morning to work so know the road relatively well, now have 4 years (accident free) driving experience [I know its not 40 years, but the point I'm making is I didnt just pass last week], and have a VTS with good suspension, tyres and brakes... so surely its more acceptable me having a bit of fun and enjoying driving than Dave who passed last week in his 12 year old 1.1 with knackered sus, budget pads and skinny worn Nakajima tyres....

Just like its even more acceptable for my old man to drive even more enthusiastically with 35 years of driving experience behind him in progressively quicker and more powerful cars.... in cars that have ridiculously clever brakes and suspension with Pirelli P Zero's on each corner ... its not a flat 'yay or nay' for every single person...

you have no more right to do it than a 17 with and old car
end of the day a saxo doesnt was a good car but they are all getting on now and there are better set ups now, tbh saxo brakes are no good in comparison to the majority of road users now,
also i have noticed now i am working in a race team the uprated suspension people are using for example bilstien/koni they are not very good either good tbh, lotus elise come with these as standard and most have them taken straight off for nitron or quantom on the road car not just the race ones

[Fulch]

Take it to the track is what I say

[Sam-]

Personally i see no point in racing off the lights against someone. . .
Either your cars faster or theres is. Unless you get stupidly too much wheel spin . . . driving skill isnt as prevelant.

( Having said that when I think mine is im tempted. )

Driving down B roads is good fun and I do enjoy a good breeze down a road. But I wouldnt drive out of my comfort zone or try to get someone else to do it. Theres a time and a place for spirited driving. When you first start driving you have to learn this.

[Matts-VTR]

I'm up for it within legal limits - racing beyond the point at which it becomes dangerous is silly.

Sometimes peoples ego's overtake their driving talent........ this will invariably lead to an accident

sorry to quote but i whole heartedly agree with what this guy says.

and im sure everyone has their very own favourite road, i know i do!

matt

[Moke]

Putting your foot down on the bypass/motorway to overtake your mate, i think, is a bit of harmless fun... But anything other than that on a public road is a big no!

[rorz_vts]

this thread makes me laugh a year ago all you would of got is shit if you admitted you have a play with other cars on the road i know i did, but when im on my own i still give it beans comin back from the missus house most nights (mainly B roads) and do play with other cars on duel carriage ways cause its fun and is always a laugh to see some chavs face or some guy in his merc when you do 1 but as said i do back off when it gets to much/dangerous as im not into crashing and losing all the money ive put into the car

[Moke]

this thread makes me laugh a year ago all you would of got is shit if you admitted you have a play with other cars on the road i know i did, but when im on my own i still give it beans comin back from the missus house most nights (mainly B roads) and do play with other cars on duel carriage ways cause its fun and is always a laugh to see some chavs face or some guy in his merc when you do 1 but as said i do back off when it gets to much/dangerous as im not into crashing and losing all the money ive put into the car

Aaannnnndddddd then you go and kill someone....

I wouldn't know, but I'm taking a good guess that it wouldn't be nice to live with that fact.

Oh, you'd also be an utter prick aswell :y:

[Peter_D]

Aaannnnndddddd then you go and kill someone....

I wouldn't know, but I'm taking a good guess that it wouldn't be nice to live with that fact.

Oh, you'd also be an utter prick aswell :y:

He was only being honest, and basically saying the exact same thing as i said, but i never got flamed for saying it, why does he have to? :geek:

[Moke]

He was only being honest, and basically saying the exact same thing as i said, but i never got flamed for saying it, why does he have to? :geek:

I didn't read the whole thread :homme:

Anyways, Mr D you're very silly for racing on public roads... Naughty!

[Sparky26]

It's up to the driver if they want to do it or not... not everyone kills someone when they do it there is a time and a place for it even off the track.

[Peter_D]

I didn't read the whole thread :homme:

Anyways, Mr D you're very silly for racing on public roads... Naughty!

Wanna race, punk? :cool:

[Moke]

Wanna race, punk? :cool:

Yeah, I'll race you to my Grandad's house. Cya in about 5 hours! ;)

[Peter_D]

LOL

Takes over 7 hours to Newcastle, so would be more than 5, yikes

I might journey down sometime and watch you DJing

[Moke]

LOL

Takes over 7 hours to Newcastle, so would be more than 5, yikes

I might journey down sometime and watch you DJing

Christ! You'd be prepared to do that for me though, right? ;)

You should do that my friend! You can come into the booth and we can rave together :P Lmao!

[Peter_D]

I would be making you play some banging hard style and hard trance

[Moke]

I would be making you play some banging hard style and hard trance

We're doing a trance night soon! We are going through the genres to see what hits off the best.

In a perfect world, it would be UK Hardcore / Hardstyle all the way!

[Peter_D]

So you's are trying different styles to see what people prefer?

Why not one night pay someone to stand at the door for one night and when people are entering the club, get them to quickly pick what genre they would prefer from a list of say 5 genre's

Hardhouse
Hardstyle/Hard trance
Hardcore/Happy hardcore
Trance
Electro/Funky house

Or edit the list to suit which styles you are prepared to play

Would only take them each 5 seconds, and you'd get a good idea of what the majority of people want

Or just keep rotating things, how many times a month do you DJ? If it's twice a month, then pick the 2 most popular genre's, and alter them.. Play electro one time, then the next time do hardstyle, then back to electro etc

Or if say electro and hardstyle were the favourites, you could start the night with electro, build it up after a while to a faster pace, then blend it in to some hardstyle and stick the pitch up again so the night progresses from slow pumping tunes, to fast madness

[Moke]

So you's are trying different styles to see what people prefer?

Why not one night pay someone to stand at the door for one night and when people are entering the club, get them to quickly pick what genre they would prefer from a list of say 5 genre's

Hardhouse
Hardstyle/Hard trance
Hardcore/Happy hardcore
Trance
Electro/Funky house

Or edit the list to suit which styles you are prepared to play

Would only take them each 5 seconds, and you'd get a good idea of what the majority of people want

Or just keep rotating things, how many times a month do you DJ? If it's twice a month, then pick the 2 most popular genre's, and alter them.. Play electro one time, then the next time do hardstyle, then back to electro etc

Or if say electro and hardstyle were the favourites, you could start the night with electro, build it up after a while to a faster pace, then blend it in to some hardstyle and stick the pitch up again so the night progresses from slow pumping tunes, to fast madness

That's not a bad idea mate! Nice one :)

We are currently doing House / Electro / Trance but want to move on to other genres as listed above.

I've got slots confirmed tonight and 2 in October and these are all House / Electro / Trance.

That's what I've said to do! :D

[Peter_D]

Good lad, it works well actually starting off electro and then building up to hard trance/hardstyle

Alex Kidd does it alot, he plays alot of electro, which is what most people want to start the night, get drunk, wait for the drugs to kick in and bop your head to some electro...then you're up dancing busting some filthy moves, and it merges into hardstyle and your nose starts to bleed as you're dancing to 10kw of 150bpm insanity

[Moke]

Good lad, it works well actually starting off electro and then building up to hard trance/hardstyle

Alex Kidd does it alot, he plays alot of electro, which is what most people want to start the night, get drunk, wait for the drugs to kick in and bop your head to some electro...then you're up dancing busting some filthy moves, and it merges into hardstyle and your nose starts to bleed as you're dancing to 10kw of 150bpm insanity

:fcuk:

Tonight will be only OK as it's our first night, we've had no time to plan and there aren't as many DJ's as we would have liked.. But it's my first gig, so I'm buzzin'! :D

[Peter_D]

How many of you's are playing? Back to back or single sets?

[Moke]

How many of you's are playing? Back to back or single sets?

3 at the moment but we are having hopefully 2 more coming up... It's only a small venue tbh.

It's single sets but then the last hour is me and another DJ B2B :D

[Peter_D]

You need to get some vids lad, i wanna see you in action

[Moke]

You need to get some vids lad, i wanna see you in action

I'll see what our photographer can do tonight. Not sure if he records too...

I will have some pictures though! :D

[Bound]

Wanna race, punk? :cool:

I challenge you to a race...around the world!!!

Startingggg....NOW.

Go.

[Moke]

I challenge you to a race...around the world!!!

Startingggg....NOW.

Go.

Oooh, oooooooh, ooooooooooh, let me join! :D

[Jay_]

i am in! got to visit every country, island etc etc etc

[Barry123]

Honestly. I've never raced against anyone in the VTS - this is probably unprecedented among the saxo community I'm sure.

Not even blasted it up against some faggot in the lane next to me at a set of traffic lights. It'd fuck up my mpg if I did that.

Yesterday in fact, I was in Margate, a Red VTR(?) was pulled up at some traffic lights, and I was just behind. I knew exactly what he was going to do. Lights go green and he floors it, except there's a Gatso about 150 metres ahead???! so he has to brake again... that fucking up your mpg mega loads.

I wait a couple of seconds and plod off. Noob

[Matt67]

Honestly. I've never raced against anyone in the VTS - this is probably unprecedented among the saxo community I'm sure.

Not even blasted it up against some faggot in the lane next to me at a set of traffic lights. It'd fuck up my mpg if I did that.

Yesterday in fact, I was in Margate, a Red VTR(?) was pulled up at some traffic lights, and I was just behind. I knew exactly what he was going to do. Lights go green and he floors it, except there's a Gatso about 150 metres ahead???! so he has to brake again... that fucking up your mega loads.

I wait a couple of seconds and plod off. Noob


Got voted one of the most dissapointing seaside resorts in England by FHM; you've provided a prime example why! That and the amount of teenage pregnancy and knife crime, it's like that all the way up that bit of coast upto sheppey though tbh.

[Barry123]

Got voted one of the most dissapointing seaside resorts in England by FHM; you've provided a prime example why! That and the amount of teenage pregnancy and knife crime, it's like that all the way up that bit of coast upto sheppey though tbh.

oh it's an absolute shit hole. If I was president of the world I'd flatten it with nukes. Sadly my Girlfriend lives there so I have to visit it :bored:

[Matt67]

oh it's an absolute shit hole. If I was president of the world I'd flatten it with nukes. Sadly my Girlfriend lives there so I have to visit it :bored:

I'm guessing if you were president of the world you would move your girlfriend out on Margate before you nuked it? If so sell me her house and I'l move my girlfriend there pre nuke!

[Barry123]

I'm guessing if you were president of the world you would move your girlfriend out on Margate before you nuked it? If so sell me her house and I'l move my girlfriend there pre nuke!

hahahaha

[bluenotesmiley]

Wow you are travelling local to me then. I find there are not that many morons driving about locally really.

I would vote to flatten Margate even if I lived there. Where do I vote for you for presidency?

[Barry123]

Wow you are travelling local to me then. I find there are not that many morons driving about locally really.

I would vote to flatten Margate even if I lived there. Where do I vote for you for presidency?

Totally agree - It's actually pretty good for driving behaviour which was why I was a little surprised yesterday and ended up posting it today. Broadstairs and Ramsgate are nice though. Just Margate and that massive tall ugly building and well, the locals, kill the place.

[bluenotesmiley]

Indeed I totally agree. I tend to find I see the majority of idiots on the road around the Medway area on my way to uni.

It is a shame to think a town so popular many years ago and become so rundown and populated by utter idiots.

[Matt67]

Herne bay is where the partys at ;)

[Lacey_106]

I'm guessing if you were president of the world you would move your girlfriend out on Margate before you nuked it? If so sell me her house and I'l move my girlfriend there pre nuke!

Epic. :clapping:

[simon123]

It's fine if it's at night and at country roads. Which is alot of fun

[Moke]

It's fine if it's at night and at country roads. Which is alot of fun

I didn't know the law had changed?

[simon123]

I didn't know the law had changed?

No i dont mean it in that way. But that's how i see it

[Mieran]

I've raced my mates a few times but only in places where there is no one there.

I don't race or have a 'play' with randomers that often just in case its 5-0 in an unmarked car.

[Moke]

No i dont mean it in that way. But that's how i see it

:oops: I was only joking.

[Peter_D]

I challenge you to a race...around the world!!!

Startingggg....NOW.

Go.

LOL :y:

Or how about a race using novelty old cars, like the ones in Wacky Races.....GO

[chinkostu]

Ive had 2 accidents, neither of them attributed to racing. I love a quickrazz down a back lane, always will, and due to my funny hours i usually catch a few on the dual on the way home. Tbh, half the time i cant be arsed, saving petrol, or its too wet. although if people nail it into the outsde lane from a sliproad to get past me, i will cane it!