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cloke
2nd September 2010, 19:18
Does anyone know if there is a guide to widemouth? I've searched but can't find anything. Also any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

paulwoodford
2nd September 2010, 19:20
Is widemouth when the bottom grille is cut out?

cloke
2nd September 2010, 19:23
Yep, cut, smoothed and painted black if ya like

paulwoodford
2nd September 2010, 19:28
There's an Icelandic one in the projects section with a carbon surrounded one I saw earlier, looked awesome! Would make it easier too if you could just cut it, neaten it up a bit then put a surround on.

cloke
2nd September 2010, 19:30
Yeah but I think it looks a lot neater if it's cut nd smoothed. Plus surrounds r like £70+

paulwoodford
2nd September 2010, 19:31
Fair enough.

Anthony
2nd September 2010, 20:24
I would wide mouthed my bumper recently.

Basically you need to cut out the vertical and horizontal slats, which will leave gaps/holes. I used fiberglass matting cut to shape and placed over the holes and then applied fiberglass resin on top (which makes the matting harden and makes it really strong) once set apply filler on top and shape it. Takes a lot of time and a lot of rubbing down adding more filler rubbing down again etc.

Some people may say that you should plastic weld the holes but if the fiberglass matting is done properly it will be fine mate.

Edit: check my progress thread for some pictures if you like. pages 14/15 maybe 16 lol.

cloke
2nd September 2010, 20:30
Cheers mate, great help :y:

cloke
2nd September 2010, 20:37
Mate I love it, looks well good. Love your splitter aswel! Where can I get that fibreglass matting n resin from mate??

Anthony
2nd September 2010, 20:47
Thanks mate :y:

I personally used this resin: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fibre-glass-resin-500ml-/380264590932?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5889892e54

Can't remember which matting but here's what ebay has to offer: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=fiberglass+matting&_sacat=0&_odkw=fiberglass+resin&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Maybe if you shop around you could get them cheaper though :y:

cloke
2nd September 2010, 20:49
Sweet cheers mate :y: easy enough to do?

Anthony
2nd September 2010, 20:54
No problem.

It can be tricky but its simple enough. Get a some scissors cut the matting into a square shape big enough to overlap the hole then mix some resin up with hardener in a bowl and apply the resin on top of the matting with a brush. Come back in a few hours and it will be rock solid. :)

Anthony
2nd September 2010, 20:58
Heres some pictures of what I mean, it's de-fogging the bumper but its the same method with wide mouth.

I cut some fiberglass matting to shape
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/ant809099/SDC10754.jpg


Then applied the fiberglass resin...
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/ant809099/SDC10755.jpg


This is what it now looked like from the outside....
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/ant809099/SDC10758.jpg


Lots of filler, only got 1 picture of this but it took lots of sanding then appling more filler etc to get it right!!!
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/ant809099/SDC10767.jpg

Hope this helps.

cloke
2nd September 2010, 21:48
Cheers mate, appreciate it.

Rudpud
2nd September 2010, 22:37
cover up the fogs with some plastic things off a 1.1 and dont paint the cut out slats fromo the middle... keep it same colour :)

cloke
2nd September 2010, 22:42
Probs keep the fogs for the time being mate, not looking for smoothed look, dnt think it would suit my car. And y dnt u think I should paint the widemouth mate?

Rudpud
2nd September 2010, 22:43
Personally i think it looks shit painted. Like dribble haha

Oh sorry i thought when chatting bout the fibreglassing you was on bout the fogs mate

cloke
2nd September 2010, 22:54
Dribble lol. Well I like the look of it so I'll try it nd if I go off it I'll just colour code it. And he put the pics of the fogs up as reference to fibreglassing :y:

Anthony
3rd September 2010, 09:25
Cheers mate, appreciate it.

There's a "thanks" btton you know ;)

haha just joking, no problems bud hope it helps.

dan_msx
3rd September 2010, 09:42
have a look at my project thread bud, i have a carbon widemouth insert.....

dan_msx
3rd September 2010, 09:42
heres link...... CLICK (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334017)

cloke
3rd September 2010, 09:45
not my cuppa tea mate, dont like the way it sticks out. and would probs be cheaper 2 smooth it. car looks good tho mate.

piebobs71
3rd September 2010, 15:11
i used an insert on mine and its probably the worst thing i've done so far but now its in im not buying a new bumper i'll just have to live with it

cloke
3rd September 2010, 15:16
Can't you take the insert out n sort your bumper??

DanViner
3rd September 2010, 17:23
There's a "thanks" btton you know ;)

haha just joking, no problems bud hope it helps.

you forgot to thank the poorboy
be using this to help me also with fog light smoothing

piebobs71
3rd September 2010, 17:28
Can't you take the insert out n sort your bumper??

no,you have to cut loads away to get it to fit

cloke
3rd September 2010, 18:13
you forgot to thank the poorboy
be using this to help me also with fog light smoothing

Nah he's winding me up cs I kept saying thanks every 2posts lol how's your car coming mate, not seen many updates lately.lol

DanViner
3rd September 2010, 18:22
Nah he's winding me up cs I kept saying thanks every 2posts lol how's your car coming mate, not seen many updates lately.lol

i have only had it a week
just got new pipe/stickers atm

trying to find the paint code for bottom half before anything else commences really

cloke
3rd September 2010, 18:45
Oh right. I've just fitted jewels to mine. Waiting on springs nd induction kit to come nd currently sorting my bumper :y:

DanViner
3rd September 2010, 18:55
Sick sounds good always a place in my heart for a flatty lol
How much you lowering it by and who doing your torsion bar

cloke
3rd September 2010, 18:58
40mm and my bros doing it for me, he's got his own garage, I love it haha helps me so much!

Luke-saxo
3rd September 2010, 19:33
i cut the slats out and plastic welded patchs into the gaps and the used fiberglass filler so theres no chance of it falling out over time

cloke
3rd September 2010, 22:18
Yeah I'm going to use fibreglass nd filler, so hopefully it'll turn out ok :y:

SaxoMike1989
6th September 2010, 19:16
take a look at my pics ive just done a spray widemouth no assle 1-2 hours work still looks smart kno where near as good but still for time an money well worth it

cloke
6th September 2010, 19:30
take a look at my pics ive just done a spray widemouth no assle 1-2 hours work still looks smart kno where near as good but still for time an money well worth it

Well I've already cut my bumper up lol and my bros mate is gunna sand, fill, primer n paint it all up for me, so fuck al for mr to do now lol