Crash

[TMSaxo]

Had a crash earlier yesterday in my 2 week old car. Wasn't my fault. On really strong pain killers suffering from whiplash. I have a witness and i was coming to a cross roads and was turning right, i stopped, signaling waiting for the road to clear. The road cleared i started turning and out of a parking space a woman came speeding across the opposite side of road in a diagnol motion and hit my nearside wing. Crunching it. However her vehicle was really bad which showed speeding. However speeding can not be used in court?

[Dolly]

Ahh that sucks :l

Why can't the speeding be used in court?
If she wasn't speeding she would of been able to have seen you and atleast not done that much damage or atleast stop?

[TMSaxo]

Thing what peed me off was that she had taken her hands of steering wheel and made no attempt to brake!

[Dolly]

Thing what peed me off was that she had taken her hands of steering wheel and made no attempt to brake!

WTF?!
She sounds like she shouldn't be driving!

[TMSaxo]

I promise you now i will win this dam case. Weather she admits liability or not.

[Moke]

Shit dude :n:

She sounds like a right knobber! :wall:

[Dolly]

I promise you now i will win this dam case. Weather she admits liability or not.

I hope you do!
She deserves to lose, what an idiot! :n:

[Quick]

Ouch, did you take any pics at the scene?

[TMSaxo]

Nah, i've got my insurance/solictors/AA looking for them to admit liability.

[Reechard]

Dangerous driving if you can get a witness to say she took her hands off the wheel and didnt brake. Hope you win though.

Why cant you use speed in court?

[Pieface]

Because you can't prove the speed. Especially if she didn't break.

[nicole_]

im not 100% sure but the fact your on strong painkillers isnt gunna be a good thing for you.
youre advised not to be driving so imo, it would probably just go against you

[Rudpud]

im not 100% sure but the fact your on strong painkillers isnt gunna be a good thing for you.
youre advised not to be driving so imo, it would probably just go against you

Thats due to the crash :P

Lack of concentration on her part?

[nicole_]

oh right i get it, thought he meant 'it wasnt my fault, im on painkillers' :p
no-one investigated my cars damage to check speeding, i dont think you can prove it can you

[wadoryu]

the police can prove speeding if they feel like it. they use some computers staging the posibilties of how the crash happend

[Dolly]

oh right i get it, thought he meant 'it wasnt my fault, im on painkillers' :p
no-one investigated my cars damage to check speeding, i dont think you can prove it can you

Haha I did think that at first too :P

It can be done but its difficult to prove speeding. Unless there's certain evidence such as skid marks or other impact damage to work from then they can assess the speed of the vehicle not accurate but close enough.
As the woman didn't brake, I highly doubt they'll be able too but they should see she's in the wrong?

[Jay_]

yer the police usually need skid marks on the road to judge speed, but the comps can now re-create the scene if all the data is put in etc so you never know.....

[Lacey_106]

They only bother to check speeding in the result of death or serious injury.

Tbh, in this instance its just not worth their time.

Have you thought about hiring a lawyer? Would be worth the expense if you are desperate to win!

[TMSaxo]

My insurance is onto hers now. She has half a micra which proves she was speeding. All her bonnet is made into a pyramid.

[ryanmt]

the amount of damage doesnt prove anything atall, cars have crumple zones etc so they can often look really nasty if shunted in the right direction.

[Paul]

My insurance is onto hers now. She has half a micra which proves she was speeding. All her bonnet is made into a pyramid.

You cannot prove she was speeding. End of.

You have to look into another way of it being her fault.

[nicole_]

whys it going to court?
dont you just want your car to be repaired?

[Rudpud]

whys it going to court?
dont you just want your car to be repaired?

If neither of them admit liability for it, I think.

[TMSaxo]

The position of the vehicles proves where she has come and hit me from and she didnt have priority.

[nicole_]

if the parking space was on the road she was on, does she not have priority as shes already on the road your coming onto and you should have seen her pulling out?
i dunno, is she not excepting liability then?

[Rudpud]

Doesn't mean that its not your fault. Normally if someone hits you then it is their fault, however if you was to pull out nd got hit that could be your fault.

Anyways, sounds like it was definately her fault, assume she wont take responsibilty?

[Paul]

The position of the vehicles proves where she has come and hit me from and she didnt have priority.

If you've come out a parking space and she's hit you then you're at fault.. unless she was in the wrong such as on the wrong side of the road.

You said you have a witness, is this an independant witness or your mate dave?

What other evidence have you got, did you take any pictures?

Did this happen in blackburn? Where abouts? I'm from near accrington :p

[Viper]

Would it work in court if your defence was 'woman driver, explains it all...'

[Paul]

Lol Tom, reminds me of that episode of 2 pints or lager.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5945keGmo

[Oc2]

Damn right you should use speed in court

a woman slammed her brakes on and my mate went into the back of her at the traffic lights (theyd turned green)

she tried to claim for two whiplashes, when she was on her own, he had witnesses and she still tried it

dont let her twist it mate

[Lacey_106]

I reckon you'll find it hard to win this case. Best case scenario will be knock for knock, but I think if you were reversing, and she was driving forwards they'll automatically hold you accountable.

:n:

[rey]

From how I read it, she came out of the space, and drove into him at the crossroad junction.

[Viper]

Lol Tom, reminds me of that episode of 2 pints or lager.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5945keGmo

HAHAHA!! It's so true!

[Lacey_106]

From how I read it, she came out of the space, and drove into him at the crossroad junction.

Oh... well in that case....

OP write a better post in future! :p

Paragraphs and a story with a clear beginning, middle and end please.

[rey]

This is how I read it as:

I was coming up to a cross roads and was turning right, I stopped, signaling waiting for the road to clear.
The road cleared and I started pulling out, then out of a parking space a woman came speeding across from the opposite side of road in a diagonal motion and hit my nearside wing. Crunching it.

I think that's what he means, which depending on location of the space etc, will probably go knock for knock, unless it's close to the junction, then non-fault for the OP.

[MikeYost]

What is she trying to say happened then?

[D--R--E--W]

I promise you now i will win this dam case. Weather she admits liability or not.


Because you were pulling from a crossroads and she was already on the 'main' carraigeway, she will probably win the case. All she needs to say is she was driving on the road and you pulled out on her

[Paul]

Seen how you're not exactly William Shakespear, i recommend opening up Microsoft Paint. Draw us a diagram of what happened and upload it to here.


If you pulled out of a 'minor' to a 'major' road then you're at fault and you will lose.

[TMSaxo]

I dont know my witness, but got his details.

Diagram of it :

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The collision was in a v shape and i was already taking my turn before she set off.

Happened on Abbey Street Accrington

[Paul]

Put a few arrows on to show which way you were both going lol.

I know where you mean i think. One of the roads leads up past blackhorse pub, other direction towards clayton, one goes to the carpark behind the TV store, one leads down into centre of town?

I'm pretty sure there are traffic lights on that junction?


Would be pretty hard to speed down that road, there are speedbumps lol.

[TMSaxo]

Yeah i was turning the down street of cross roads and so was she i think. Cut straight across the cross road!

[Paul]

I've attached a diagram of what i can think of whats happened in my head (from knowing that junction very well).

Is this diagram accurate?

[haz_pro]

From that picture it looks like it would be his fault not hers, although if she was speeding she may be at fault.

How ever you wouldnt be able to prove speed and so i dont think youll win this.

[TMSaxo]

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[TMSaxo]

From that picture it looks like it would be his fault not hers, although if she was speeding she may be at fault.

How ever you wouldnt be able to prove speed and so i dont think youll win this.


Whys it my fault, prioirty is to give way to moving vehicles on the prior road, not for station cars speeding away off the line CUTTING across a main road.

[raul0]

is'nt she going to pay for the damage to your car through her insurance. Or is she refusing ?

[TMSaxo]

Refusing the silly cow.

[haz_pro]

Whys it my fault, prioirty is to give way to moving vehicles on the prior road, not for station cars speeding away off the line CUTTING across a main road.

Look at the picture i was basing my opinion on and tell me that wouldnt be your fault.... :geek:

Looking at your, quite frankly awful picture, i will now change my opinion.

[TMSaxo]

Paint is not my best ability.

[saxovtsmad]

from looking at the pictures she was parked outside the tv shop and wanted to turn left so basically she was on the wrong side of the road to start off with

[Paul]

From what you've said i've made a new diagram. Is this more accurate?

If so, drop the whole 'she was speeding' it wont work, especially on a road with speedbumps. But more focus on the fact she was on the wrong side of road, make this clear and make sure your witness says this also.

[Paul]

BTW never buy anything from Santa's Takeaway.. I tried it once and i was ill for over a week.

[Pieface]

For a Diagram, use Google Maps.

[TMSaxo]

Your diagram is better. I have the witness said she came from no where on the prior road.

[Paul]

Your welcome to print it off and use it in court *hopes he does and doesn't realise the jailbait central building lolz*

[TMSaxo]

I will do ty.

[Marky_C]

Its not up to the other driver to admit liability its up yo here insurance company to decide based on the facts. Proving the third party was speeding is pretty much impossible. Have your insurers given you a hire car at the cost of her insurance company?

[TMSaxo]

no not yet. Looking into hire and courtesy car tomorrow.

[Marky_C]

If they give you a car on credit hire at the cost of the third party insurer then it's pretty much certain that you will not be found at fault.

[Peter_D]

Stop trying to get your post count to 100 you knobber

[D--R--E--W]

Was thinking the same, guy is a troll

[saxomad197]

you will def win mate crazy woman driver