Bulid, Use, Sell, Split.

[benkelsall]

Seen it on another forum, but its a good conversation so putting it on here.


So, it seems to be a growing trend of spending alot of money on a car, getting it to a really high spec, barely using the car, then splitting and selling the lot a short time after.
Why do we think this happens?
Whats your opinion on the whole 'mega car bulids', that rarely see the track/road/any use at all before being sold!?

[Fulch]

So, it seems to be a growing trend of spending alot of money on a car, getting it to a really high spec, barely using the car, then splitting and selling the lot a short time after.

Very true point :y:

[benkelsall]

I think with most people its just to show off kinda thing, be an ASW on forums ect. Like have to update there thread everyday for the most smallest things lol.
Then there is the small amount of people who actually use their cars for what they bulit them for. They actually do take them on track often and go to the ring ect, get the full use out of them.

Then some people have high spec cars but dont put them to there full use, just used as there daily car kinda thing. So with people like that I don't really see the point in spending shit load of suspension and everything else, just wasting money imo. As something more basic would do them just fine.

[wadoryu]

riiight. what does ASW mean?

[nicole_]

alot of its bragging rights
but i think some people do it primarily as a hobby
they love the fact they have a hi-spec car and are proud of what theyve accomplished and work hard to get it.
i think its silly people say they have to use there car. if its what they wanna do then let them :)
everyone ASWs, even on the horse forums people go out riding and make sure they have pictures of the highest jump they did that day, because then they get 30 replies instead of 1. its like human nature to want people to admire you.
also people spend ages on here reading other peoples views of products then decide to upgrade etc, alot of its to do with forums

[CarlosVT]

riiight. what does ASW mean?

Attention seeking whore

[Fulch]

I think with most people its just to show off kinda thing, be an ASW on forums ect. Like have to update there thread everyday for the most smallest things lol.
Then there is the small amount of people who actually use their cars for what they bulit them for. They actually do take them on track often and go to the ring ect, get the full use out of them.

See, I'm tracking mine but I dont have a blog on it and my actual and genuine intention is to trailor it once I have paid my loan, dec my loan finishes so in Jan, Feb, March ect I'm going to be doing my trailer license and get one then after that get aonther day to day car on fiance so mine will be a perm track car.

riiight. what does ASW mean?

Attention Seeking Whore

[wadoryu]

Attention seeking whore

woooooo cheers

[Andy_K]

Some peoples circumstances change I suppose. Especially on this forum, the people tend to be younger, so have spare money to spend on their cars, but then start looking to upgrade to bigger and better cars, or look into buying houses so need money and sell/break the cars.

[Fulch]

Some peoples circumstances change I suppose. Especially on this forum, the people tend to be younger, so have spare money to spend on their cars, but then start looking to upgrade to bigger and better cars, or look into buying houses so need money and sell/break the cars.

Another good point Andy :y:

[Jay_]

woooooo cheers

how have you gone a year on this forum without knowing this?? :panic:

[Fulch]

how have you gone a year on this forum without knowing this?? :panic:

lol I only googled it about 3 months ago :p

[Jay_]

^ lol! but Yeah i find there are a fair few people that do split epic cars with out using them. I aint going to name names but it is always a shame. I know i could spend my money on a ncier car, but i enjoy doing what i am doing to my car so going to keep and run mine ( I know its not special) for a good while!

[Fulch]

I can name two and I think there is a third on here that have all build a track car to spilt it. altho saying that one of them still seems to be buying bits for his and then selling them etc

[saxomad197]

think it a shame. spliting cars when their nothing wrong with them. it be like a 205gti now adays you cant get hold of them and when one do come up for sale they overpriced by a grand cos they know somebody will buy it. see this happening to the saxo eventually.

[jonas2112]

think it a shame. spliting cars when their nothing wrong with them. it be like a 205gti now adays you cant get hold of them and when one do come up for sale they overpriced by a grand cos they know somebody will buy it. see this happening to the saxo eventually.

yeah think it will happen too.

[Steffrallye]

some do it as a hobby i guess, just enjoy the build and doing the best they can at something, once finished have no really interest and sell/break the car and start all over.

some peoples situation changes, houses, kids or take hank who went to uni.

[Dom]

I think sometimes its about the hard work people put into cars and when it comes to selling they can either get better money for the car if they split the car due to trouble selling or they don't want there hard work being tarnished and ruined by a young chav in years to come.

[Bound]

People can do whatever they want with their own money.. If they want to blow it stupidly on a build they won't even use then albeit.. It's not that common really, very few on this forum tbh.. But progress threads still get updated with stupid insignificant things even on quite standard cars.

I know what you mean, I think it's a mix between bragging rights, ASW, and pleasure from both the building process and the ASW attention

[Mochachino]

I love ironic contradictions

[chubba79]

Me to! lol

[Bickerton]

Glass houses much going on in here? lol

Some people that don't spend money on their car spend it on beer, taxi's and take away food, surely this is more of a waste?

[Mochachino]

I think with most people its just to show off kinda thing, be an ASW on forums ect. Like have to update there thread everyday for the most smallest things lol.
Then there is the small amount of people who actually use their cars for what they bulit them for. They actually do take them on track often and go to the ring ect, get the full use out of them.

Then some people have high spec cars but dont put them to there full use, just used as there daily car kinda thing. So with people like that I don't really see the point in spending shit load of suspension and everything else, just wasting money imo. As something more basic would do them just fine.


You speaking from expereince with the black saxo? & the other bollox you been saying latley?

[Jackman]

Maybe some people take so long building it and hyping it up that when its actually done its not up to what they expect and sell on!

Circumstances change.
I'd really like a nicer car, but without selling the Rallye on it would be hard and i'm not ready to do that yet!

[scholesyy]

For me is as much about the enjoyment of building it as it is driving it. I know i built a track car myself before and only used it once lol. But i did sell to buy a house so im now building a new one

[jonathon5]

I hate building, I hate spending, I like driving

[nicole_]

You speaking from expereince with the black saxo? & the other bollox you been saying latley?

iirc, ben sold that ast suspension and other bits cus he wernt using it danny :p lol so kinda backs up what hes saying i guess

[stinkycheese]

I sense an underlying dig at someone in the OP. Am I right?

[Bickerton]

Alot of peoples expense seems to arise from buying twice.

For example, standard brakes > 266> 283 > 4 pots

Or selling bits like suspension that at the time you didnt think you needed then rebuying somehting similar

[Mochachino]

iirc, ben sold that ast suspension and other bits cus he wernt using it danny :p lol so kinda backs up what hes saying i guess

Or couse he couldnt get them setup properly? Remember the back end bopping around everywhere so that your head hit the roof? They were the AST stock car rear dampers for that euro black saxo he had?

Whats the reason for going for ASTs this time and what lb springs you using? Woulcnt it be cheaper and just as sufficiant to use standard Id spring setup with GrpN's?

[rushy_23]

Can depend, some may do it for example to look cool as mentioned. Constantly mod them but never use them.

Another scenario is people spend money on their cars, start a build. But when the build gets nearer the finish line they may have moved on in life/not have the money they once had. Kids, start a family. (All falls in the same boat).

Perhaps they realise they are wasting their time on a particular car and want to upgrade.

The build going too far, to the point where their car isnt practical.


Many reasons. I'd say I fall into category 2.

[benkelsall]

Or couse he couldnt get them setup properly? Remember the back end bopping around everywhere so that your head hit the roof? They were the AST stock car rear dampers for that euro black saxo he had?

Whats the reason for going for ASTs this time and what lb springs you using? Woulcnt it be cheaper and just as sufficiant to use standard Id spring setup with GrpN's?

Because the rear dampers were to soft thats why, as they were on the lowest setting. Would of had to just adjust them and would have been fine.

And im not going for ast now lol.

[Bickerton]

Because the rear dampers were to soft thats why, as they were on the lowest setting. Would of had to just adjust them and would have been fine.

And im not going for ast now lol.

Soft dampers aren't bounce like that, surely it's hard dampers?

[Tontsy]

its for making it, your own!...becomming one with it...

and once you got to the top of your game, or what you wanted to achieve, start all over again imo!

[rushy_23]

Derailed anyone lol. Yes Rush, the thread you 'think' you are in. Your are not. :D

[Rotrex_Rallye]

I completely lost interest in mine at one point. Even listed it for sale as unfinished. I then had a gambling spree after not placing a bet in 9 months. Won a nice little amount and decided to finish and use it. So gambling saved my trackcar :)

[adamm]

im going to be building my first car soon. have had 2 vtrs already but the next one is going to be a nice little project of mine.
il need to use it daily and i hope i dont loose interest. not going to anything majorly special so shouldnt cost to much i hope lol
but tbh only thing i can see stopping me is money and i bet its the same for alot of people. also alot of people mod because it what they enjoy once theyve finished they want something else to mod so have to move on may be a waste of money but its a hobby at the end of the day and wouldnt say it means there an asw although some people may be but not everyone

[Rotrex_Rallye]

im going to be building my first car soon. have had 2 vtrs already but the next one is going to be a nice little project of mine.
il need to use it daily and i hope i dont loose interest. not going to anything majorly special so shouldnt cost to much i hope lol
but tbh only thing i can see stopping me is money and i bet its the same for alot of people. also alot of people mod because it what they enjoy once theyve finished they want something else to mod so have to move on may be a waste of money but its a hobby at the end of the day and wouldnt say it means there an asw although some people may be but not everyone

believe me buddy whatever your budget is... triple it! lol

I started off saying I'll just get this, I'll just get that. Then things you don;t think about are needed, things crop up cheap and you cant refuse. Before you know it you're balls deep in building a trackcar! This is probably why most people move on. Getting carried away with the car maybe? Anyway bud, good luck with the project :y:

[Beaniemoo]

The main thing with mine was the fun was building it, and the reason to build it was to prove the point that we could do it!
So once it was done the whole thing was done really.
If I hadn't built the car I wouldn't be sitting here, £x000 better off, I would have just got drunk more often and have slightly nicer clothes, but I would have missed out on SO much!
The project isn't always just for the final outcome, they can be fun in themselves, and if its a show car, for me, once they're done have very little to keep the owner entertained!
The Clio track car we built we are keeping as it has a reason for its existance, and will only go so we can go stock hatch racing in the future.
Now I've proved my point with the show car I'm going to get a fairly standard car to just enjoy, still with the memories and photos to remind me of what I've been upto, and that the only real reason anyone does anything really isn't it?

[Rotrex_Rallye]

The main thing with mine was the fun was building it, and the reason to build it was to prove the point that we could do it!
So once it was done the whole thing was done really.
If I hadn't built the car I wouldn't be sitting here, £x000 better off, I would have just got drunk more often and have slightly nicer clothes, but I would have missed out on SO much!
The project isn't always just for the final outcome, they can be fun in themselves, and if its a show car, for me, once they're done have very little to keep the owner entertained!
The Clio track car we built we are keeping as it has a reason for its existance, and will only go so we can go stock hatch racing in the future.
Now I've proved my point with the show car I'm going to get a fairly standard car to just enjoy, still with the memories and photos to remind me of what I've been upto, and that the only real reason anyone does anything really isn't it?

Good point mate. The countless hours me and the fellas have had in the workshop cracking jokes, winding each other up, getting deep into conversations lol. And then you have a quality car at the end of it!

[Peter_D]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Red_Headed_Young_Man.jpg/180px-Red_Headed_Young_Man.jpg
http://www.airhammersite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/katie-lee-webster-with-natural-elvis-style-ginger-hair2.jpg
http://thumbs2.modthesims.info/img/1/4/4/1/1/0/MTS2_kaneonapua_446470_charles_kennedy_ginger.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2844042666_fd4a2b0634_m.jpg
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4509970/2/istockphoto_4509970-gingerbread-man.jpg
http://thespiritualhealth.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ginger-herb1.jpg
http://www.finewinehouse.com/productimages/bundaberggingerbeer.jpg

[haz_pro]

Pahah that baby looks terrible.

[Viper]

The way I see it is that people have loads of big ideas and when they actually do it they realise it isn't easy/cheap.

It is also a case, I think, of seeing what someone else has done and thinking it would be great to do it, and then not having time to do it. Prime example being the current track phase.

A lot of trumpet blowing too. Ooh, look at me with my shiney car....