Watchdog

[Rogue_Shadow]

Hey Hey

Thought it was a good subject to bring up in GC.
No i'm not 80, but is anyone watching watchdog. They are covering a garage selling CAT C and D right offs.

They brought a Clio from this garage, the sale's person never mentioned the C/D right off information at all during the sale. After purchasing the car (undercover) the car was jacked up and inspecting it, they found loads of things wrong obviously. Missing bolts, crap wielding work etc etc
But worse of all, the car was involved in a front and rear crash. So when they took off the front bumper they found they had Wielded onto the slam panel metal brackets to keep the front bumper on / give it shape. Instead of small shock absorbers saving the assholes £40 max.

It has to been seen to see how nasty this could end up, but those metal brackets were stronger than the bumper, so in a crash.
The brackets would Slice straight through the plastic bumper and take someone leg off. Easily! Even me who has no mechanically knowledge could tell it didn't look right.

Anyone else has any dodgy dealings with garages or sales people?

[jonathon5]

Been on the wrong end of a dodgy car cost me £3500 may as well have been £1 million at the time

Never again ! I have learnt the hard wAy

[Mr_X]

I saw that, truly shocking. I would have gone back with

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100622014215/deadliestwarrior/images/3/3a/Molotov-cocktail-1-.jpg

Been on the wrong end of a dodgy car cost me £3500 may as well have been £1 million at the time

Never again ! I have learnt the hard wAy

:n:

[CHIP]

I wouldn't trust anyone. I'd only buy a car once my dad's looked round it. He's an auto electrician and mechanic and has been since he left school - and before that he was building car's and that.
So he know's what to look for on car's. If he couldn't get to see the car i wanted before i put cash down, i simply wouldn't buy it.

[Fulch]

Main Dealers are the only ones you can really trust.

[Mochachino]

I would say mates, but then how can you trust them too? Not so much trust but what if they aint aware of any problems either.

Buying from one person is the same as buying from anyone else. Its down to you to check the car over for problems, accidents etc and do HPI checks. Without doing any of that, its as much good as buying a car over the phone without seeing it.

Many poeple who sell cars dont know half of the problems on them either. You could sell a car and not know about the rear beam being bent or something, poeple can be oblivious to this, and it aint that theyre untrustworthy because they havnt told you but because they genuinly dont know about it.

If you are putting options of who you can trust to buy a car from, then why would you give it at least a quick look over when you go to buy? May aswell just say over the phone if you want it or not.

If you buy a car with a fault and th owner didnt know, then you're as much to blame for buying it because you didnt know about the problem either after testing the car and looking over it. You;re as clueless as the seller, you cant blame them for it, if you could blame them for it you could blame yourself for not giving the car a thorough look over or for not knowing whats what. You check the car to find faults, if you cant find the faults then you;re to blame, the previous owner might not know about the fault the same way you didnt when you loked over it.

[jonathon5]

I had a hpi clear BMW 325i sport 1987 D plate

Sold the car for £3500, the bloke who bought the car got the car confiscated (i know nothing about how)

18 months later I get a solicitors letter, from the buyer demanding their cash back.

2 days later I recieved a CCJ against me for £4200 including court costs WTF !!!

I had to repay all the money & ended up with £0


After lots & lots of investigation by me leaving no stone unturned I found the real story behind the car.

The car was taken on a joy drive by an employee unregistered in 1987 from the BMW main dealer, the car had a big crash on a roundabout in nottingham (info from nottingham police report 1987) the car was written off (no insurance)

The main dealer purchased a shell from another written off car (1986 C plate 3 series) & changes the identity to make it appear to be the original written off car.

The car is sold as new to an ususpecting buyer, 12 years later I loose all my money when its found to actually be a C reg disguised as a D reg. The dealer who did it went bust in 1993.

HPI can be caught out.

[Mochachino]

Would take the piss if we had to do investigations like that on every car we buy lol. Bet it puts you off buying another car though? Shows you cant trust no-one.

[Meto]

I had a hpi clear BMW 325i sport 1987 D plate

Sold the car for £3500, the bloke who bought the car got the car confiscated (i know nothing about how)

18 months later I get a solicitors letter, from the buyer demanding their cash back.

2 days later I recieved a CCJ against me for £4200 including court costs WTF !!!

I had to repay all the money & ended up with £0


After lots & lots of investigation by me leaving no stone unturned I found the real story behind the car.

The car was taken on a joy drive by an employee unregistered in 1987 from the BMW main dealer, the car had a big crash on a roundabout in nottingham (info from nottingham police report 1987) the car was written off (no insurance)

The main dealer purchased a shell from another written off car (1986 C plate 3 series) & changes the identity to make it appear to be the original written off car.

The car is sold as new to an ususpecting buyer, 12 years later I loose all my money when its found to actually be a C reg disguised as a D reg. The dealer who did it went bust in 1993.

HPI can be caught out.

That is just a nightmare situation tbh. Nothing you personally could have done about, but you lost out big time.

[wesley-saxo]

id probably trust a main dealer thats about it

[Rogue_Shadow]

I had a hpi clear BMW 325i sport 1987 D plate

Sold the car for £3500, the bloke who bought the car got the car confiscated (i know nothing about how)

18 months later I get a solicitors letter, from the buyer demanding their cash back.

2 days later I recieved a CCJ against me for £4200 including court costs WTF !!!

I had to repay all the money & ended up with £0


After lots & lots of investigation by me leaving no stone unturned I found the real story behind the car.

The car was taken on a joy drive by an employee unregistered in 1987 from the BMW main dealer, the car had a big crash on a roundabout in nottingham (info from nottingham police report 1987) the car was written off (no insurance)

The main dealer purchased a shell from another written off car (1986 C plate 3 series) & changes the identity to make it appear to be the original written off car.

The car is sold as new to an ususpecting buyer, 12 years later I loose all my money when its found to actually be a C reg disguised as a D reg. The dealer who did it went bust in 1993.

HPI can be caught out.

That's harsh :n:

[jonathon5]

That is just a nightmare situation tbh. Nothing you personally could have done about, but you lost out big time.

I still don't fully understand it as the CCJ never ever appeared on my credit report at all.

[Meto]

I still don't fully understand it as the CCJ never ever appeared on my credit report at all.

Couldn't you have deflected the blame onto the garage, or did this come about after 1993?

Was all the letters official and legal? Sounds really dodgy to me this does.

[MiniGibbo]

Fuck thats made you must of been well pissed.. You dont expect that from a main dealer.

[TomBob]

I had a hpi clear BMW 325i sport 1987 D plate

Sold the car for £3500, the bloke who bought the car got the car confiscated (i know nothing about how)

18 months later I get a solicitors letter, from the buyer demanding their cash back.

2 days later I recieved a CCJ against me for £4200 including court costs WTF !!!

I had to repay all the money & ended up with £0


After lots & lots of investigation by me leaving no stone unturned I found the real story behind the car.

The car was taken on a joy drive by an employee unregistered in 1987 from the BMW main dealer, the car had a big crash on a roundabout in nottingham (info from nottingham police report 1987) the car was written off (no insurance)

The main dealer purchased a shell from another written off car (1986 C plate 3 series) & changes the identity to make it appear to be the original written off car.

The car is sold as new to an ususpecting buyer, 12 years later I loose all my money when its found to actually be a C reg disguised as a D reg. The dealer who did it went bust in 1993.

HPI can be caught out.

1. I don't understand how anyone who was involved in selling the car on could live with themselves for doing so

2. How was that you're fault? You certainly shouldn't have had to pay £4200 and get a CCJ

[jonathon5]

Couldn't you have deflected the blame onto the garage, or did this come about after 1993?

Was all the letters official and legal? Sounds really dodgy to me this does.

It was all official & stuff. I even checked with the court, I was proper annoyed.

It was a total joke, this happened in 1998.

Now I have a set of rules I stick to when buying cars.

If it's alot of money , I stay away from private sellers.

If it's a few grand private sale is ok.