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Matt-T
27th November 2010, 13:08
Basicaly, ages ago i went down hams hall with my cousin in his car watchin the racing.. 1st time down there and police turned up.. Handed al those they caught an Injuction from the area. I can not find my paper work for it.

How long do these last because the terms was i was not allowed down there in "convoy or a group of more than 2 vehicles"

Well there is an event coming up and the route takes us through the area around hams. So need to knw if im aloud, if i go the police station will they be able to tell me
Matt-T
30th November 2010, 20:20
bump, is going police station best bet?
jonathon5
30th November 2010, 20:21
;) Just be a rebel
Matt-T
30th November 2010, 20:23
Lol I dont want to go throuh in a convoy of like 20cars, get pulled, give all my details then get nicked for breaching it lol.
Dom
30th November 2010, 20:44
Was it a Section 59 by any chance? Lasts a year.
Matt-T
30th November 2010, 20:53
Im not to sure, main page of it said IIRC.

Explanatory Notice
You have been served with an injunction
If you participate in Racing, Specatating And/Or any form of Convoy anywhere within the Area/Areas surrounding Hams-Hall you will be in contempt of court and may face jail.
_-john-_
30th November 2010, 20:57
Yeah if you contact the police station they'll have it on record and it's expiery date, if they can't find it, it's either never been filed properly, been lost or it's expired. Any of those three and they have nothing to pull you up on as there paper work isn't there to back it up.
Dom
30th November 2010, 20:58
Ignore it, there is a difference between a Cruise/Meet and street racing. A Meet/Cruise to park up and admire and meet other car enthusiasts. A Street race, racing in between roundabouts risking lives and breaking the law.
Matt-T
30th November 2010, 20:59
All good then, ill either give them a call or pop down speak to them. Saves me a bit of hassle :D
Hopefully its expired, so can go through that way, if not will have to go all round the block haha
Matt-T
30th November 2010, 21:02
Ignore it, there is a difference between a Cruise/Meet and street racing. A Meet/Cruise to park up and admire and meet other car enthusiasts. A Street race, racing in between roundabouts risking lives and breaking the law.

Yeah tht was my thoughts its weather the police agree
Dom
30th November 2010, 21:13
If they do pick a argument, you will win in the courts if you can prove it was a meet with pictures etc. and claim that you have been targeted by the policemen etc.
manta
30th November 2010, 22:18
You went to hams hall in the 1st place.
GolfJay
30th November 2010, 22:41
Are Section 59's still legal? Nottingham had a HUGE injunction where any more than 4 cars in convoy were banned ANYWHERE in Nottingham.

That was however overturned earlier on in the year. I don't know if the overturning was just Nottingham or nationwide
CHIP
30th November 2010, 22:55
Are Section 59's still legal? Nottingham had a HUGE injunction where any more than 4 cars in convoy were banned ANYWHERE in Nottingham.

That was however overturned earlier on in the year. I don't know if the overturning was just Nottingham or nationwide

That was shit. All me and my mates wanted to do was meet up and have a chat and you couldn't do that in peace. You'd get 4 or 5 of us, in a corner, no car's running, no music and you'd get hassled for being in a group.

Minority, spoiling... Comes to mind.
GolfJay
30th November 2010, 22:57
That was shit. All me and my mates wanted to do was meet up and have a chat and you couldn't do that in peace. You'd get 4 or 5 of us, in a corner, no car's running, no music and you'd get hassled for being in a group.

Minority, spoiling... Comes to mind.

Section 59's are no longer allowed. To be fair, I quite often see people in Odeon or Sainburys car park being idiots lol

Either way, Section 59's are not enforced in Nottingham anymore.
CHIP
30th November 2010, 23:00
Section 59's are no longer allowed. To be fair, I quite often see people in Odeon or Sainburys car park being idiots lol

Either way, Section 59's are not enforced in Nottingham anymore.

Not our bunch though. It's the young one's who have just passed their test's and think they're the Stig. We're parked out of the way.

Tbf, the cop's know us nowaday's and know we're not the one's causing any hassle. We've been around too long lol. Shit, i feel old haha.
GolfJay
30th November 2010, 23:03
Not our bunch though. It's the young one's who have just passed their test's and think they're the Stig. We're parked out of the way.

Tbf, the cop's know us nowaday's and know we're not the one's causing any hassle. We've been around too long lol. Shit, i feel old haha.

If thats the case you probably know my ex or her ex haha Used to drive a certain Yellow BMW Compact decked...
CHIP
30th November 2010, 23:05
If thats the case you probably know my ex or her ex haha Used to drive a certain Yellow BMW Compact decked...

I don't hang around with that lot then haha.
I know the car you're talking of... Hang's around with that lass with the shitty Starlet (she wind's me up with that car lol).

But no, i know the car you mean, don't really speak to any of them though.
vtrdunc
30th November 2010, 23:07
I used to love going up Hams Hall. Meet at Maccys in Minworth I think (lol) then convoy over. The 2 roundabouts are about a 1/4 mile apart. Great fun!
Dom
30th November 2010, 23:07
Sorry to say, but a section 59 is fucking stupid anyway.

I got one back in July 09. Ran for 12 months not a problem.

I keep getting stopped by police, around 4 times in 2 months. 1 where they actually had a reason to do so. The other 3 just because I looked dodgy to them. When they ask "are you known to the police at all", I say "No, never been arrested".. They radio back and I always get "Blah Blah Blah Section 59".. They then say "You are known to us then, why lie?".. I say it run out and it should be gone off my record etc. One time when I was leaving work this convosation ended up in a heated arguement, the police have abused the Section 59 law. They are a fucking JOKE!!!
GolfJay
30th November 2010, 23:09
I haven't made the journey to Hams Hall in a few years. The standard of cars was actually pretty high. I may have to make my way down there soon.

Mind you, it's just Birmingham's version of Junction 27, Nottingham
CHIP
30th November 2010, 23:13
I haven't made the journey to Hams Hall in a few years. The standard of cars was actually pretty high. I may have to make my way down there soon.

Mind you, it's just Birmingham's version of Junction 27, Nottingham

J27's ridiculous nowaday's anyway. Too many hero's that can't handle car's. Plus that biker this year who died.
Any biker who think's they can tackle a half decent set-up car on roundabout's is a dickhead anyway in all fairness. Not that i wish that kinda thing on anyone.

But it is, it's going too far now... Police in Mansfield have been going round talking to us and are trying to sort a place for us to meet and even mentioned a drag strip.
Personally don't give a shit if it's got a drag strip or not, i won't use it. But it's handy for my mate with his C2 V6 and 200sx i suppose.
GolfJay
30th November 2010, 23:15
J27's ridiculous nowaday's anyway. Too many hero's that can't handle car's. Plus that biker this year who died.
Any biker who think's they can tackle a half decent set-up car on roundabout's is a dickhead anyway in all fairness. Not that i wish that kinda thing on anyone.

But it is, it's going too far now... Police in Mansfield have been going round talking to us and are trying to sort a place for us to meet and even mentioned a drag strip.
Personally don't give a shit if it's got a drag strip or not, i won't use it. But it's handy for my mate with his C2 V6 and 200sx i suppose.

I agree with you completely. But at the same time, there are some awesome cars up there.

I used to attend Netherfield until about two years ago too. How somebody hasn't been killed down there I do not know!
CHIP
30th November 2010, 23:19
I agree with you completely. But at the same time, there are some awesome cars up there.

I used to attend Netherfield until about two years ago too. How somebody hasn't been killed down there I do not know!

Never been Nevo. The idea of racing down a short strip with only one entrance/exit has never appealed to me lol. From what i've heard it's crap anyway.

And you do get some good car's up there, yea. My mate's Clio own's pretty much everything that goes up there. But he's daft going up there. I wouldn't if i were him lol.
Bound
30th November 2010, 23:31
Section 59's are good in theory - stopping anti social behaviour, it's a good thing, what get's me is how quickly they are handed out, and the fact that any member of the public can ring up and report a car being used in an anti social manner and that is "proof"

Section 59's don't seem to be based on evidence or justice, but police discretion, this is a terrible idea, the law enforcement should be enforcing the law, not retribution (judge, jury and executioner effect) they should be kept as two different bodies, as far apart as possible, only to collaborate for justice, not to blur the lines of it.