Audi S3 v Mk1 Focus RS.

[Jaytee]

After admiral. Offering me a quote of 1260 and 1220 respectivly for these cars im 21 and thats fully comp. So looking for peoples opinions on these cars. Or any others. Could go to insurance group 36. Leaning more towards the FRS. But the luxury of the audi is drawing me in.

[Tontsy]

rather a new focus RS imo!

but as you said, audi / luxury! yes please.

[CraigLovelock]

Am such a fan of the FRS's.

The S3's are nice.

But just not the same.

IMOOOOOOO

[0rang3peel]

S3 is a bit more grown up, executive & classy. Can imagine the RS being more fun though

[TypeRDavid]

Clio 182 or CTR, both good motors imo and would easily give the other two something to think about!

[K17NEY]

RS all day long, I wish i didnt have points, i got quoted £2000 for a CTR.

[mlawlan69]

hard hard choice, nice premium btw

21 TPFT 1400 1.1 saxo

that's with both my parents on as named.....

FML

[CHIP]

RS! Audi looks boring compared. Just the looks of the RS makes it win straight away.

[Gary-VTR]

Black S3 for sure. Mk1 RS' are starting to look a bit dated now.

[JoshB]

I'd go for a Mk1 Focus RS for the exclusivity, early S3's dont look anything special over a normal A3. And the Ford is more tunable, but the S3 is 4WD...

[Jaytee]

Ctr. Not interested tbh also the insurance on that is 1600. Dont really want to pay so much. And a 182 is a bit close to a saxo really. Gonna go and look at a 197 however.

[Jamie]

The RS...But i'm a massive Ford fan. The S3 is just an Audi A3, a boring everyday car, that said I don't know.. the S3 will be much newer and feel much better built and better equiped...

[johnlambert]

get pics and spec up to compare! im sure people on here will have experiences with either!

id have the audi!

[K17NEY]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/kitney/whiters.jpg

BOOM!

[reevesy_vtr]

all audi driver are cocks.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1002/audi-drivers-audi-driver-test-demotivational-poster-1266403783.jpg

[JoshB]

Can you get a FRS in any other colour than Imperial Blue? (if thats the right name for it?)

[Jaytee]

Audi s3 1.8 turbo.
0-60 - 6.4 secs
155mph
6 speed manual
30 mpg

FRS
2.0 turbo
0-60 - 6.2
144 mph
215bhp
5 speed manual
28mpg

[Jaytee]

Also imperial blue only. Unless you respray. But i think looks wise. Black alloys. And carbon front spliter and bumper vents = win

[rey]

FRS is win.

Fuck the S3.

[TypeRDavid]

Another one to consider perhaps?, real sleepers and can be made to look half decent,


http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/adistinction/vehicle-193.jpg


http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/adistinction/10-12-07-01-Mazda3-MPS-Extreme.jpg

[devilsadvocate]

I would have the S3 but luxury is more important to me than speed these days!

[LEZ9413]

FRS but im a ford fan

[Liamm]

all audi driver are cocks.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1002/audi-drivers-audi-driver-test-demotivational-poster-1266403783.jpg

looks like a chav he's splashing anyway, I'd do the same :y:

[Dizzy]

Id go for the S3, Nogaro blue! look a little dated now but still a very good car. well equipped and solid build quality. can be made to go like stink too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3jPbtVHBs4&feature=related

[Liamm]

Id go for the S3, Nogaro blue! look a little dated now but still a very good car. well equipped and solid build quality. can be made to go like stink too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3jPbtVHBs4&feature=related

everytime i watch it i blink and miss it :panic:

[Jaytee]

That sounds fucking amazing that.

Edit: integra type r is possible.

[D--R--E--W]

Clio 182 or CTR, both good motors imo and would easily give the other two something to think about!

LOL....

I would have the S3 but luxury is more important to me than speed these days!

They are soo comfy tbh, and defo not slow.... I hate jumping in my corsa, its horrible in comparison for comfort.

integra type r is possible.

Beautiful cars tbh, would still love to own one, but with the comfort and tuning potential of the Audi, I'm going to stick wih that for a while.


Around my area there are a good few FRS but only 2 other S3's and with me being only 22 and having it in yellow, mine is the rarest aswell. They are beautiful cars and can easily get them drifting, don't understand why folk slate the 4wd system tbh. The launch on the S3 is awesome aswell. That being said, the FRS is a cracking car

[Jaytee]

Was hoping for your input. Nice to see your not just a fan boy for the car you own as well. Only one thing for it tbh gonna have to test drive as many as i can and see what i like the best.

[Jamie]

My comment was based on the current shape S3, in which case FRS all the way any day. But the S3 is still nice, all depends on if you can find a good example, the RS will always have that special feeling to it.

[haz_pro]

Mk1 frs is looking dated, but still a good looking car.

S3 depends on shape IMO. I'm sure they are all comfy but the Mk1 which I imagine you are looking at looks dated and ugly IMO.

Considered a BMW?

[Jaytee]

Considered a 330 both petrol and diesel. Woul be more tempted by the derv however. The petrol has somewhat frightening running costs.

[Dom]

A friend who we go out driving with has a 60' Plate Focus RS, IMO it is Win.

The power is unbelievable, the handling makes it feels like its on rails, the sporty feel to it can never get old. Recaro's finish the car off a treat. The car is really something else! Looks wise it is soo eye catching, with the Diamond Cut alloys with black insides making the car look porn! A car pushing out 300bhp with ease, without me including the mods he has done. If the MK2 RS is anything like the Mk1, then you have your answer from me :y:

[stiffler69]

you know them 0-60 times complete bollocks no way a front wheel driver car will get off the mark and to 60 quicker than a 4 wheel car,

Just after i got my tt mk2 remapped 252 hp 326nm torque i had a play with a s3 looked a little tuned tbh but i couldnt shake until i got traction in about 3rd gear and he was still a sticky customer

s3's underrated performance car and can gain massive power from remaps alone

filter, intercooler, exhaust and stage 2 map £1500 would see your s3 close to 300bhp coupled with a 4 wheel driver set up it will ber very hard to shake

owned 2 audis highly recommend them thinking of going for the new s3 myself the 260hp is very tempting

[D--R--E--W]

you know them 0-60 times complete bollocks no way a front wheel driver car will get off the mark and to 60 quicker than a 4 wheel car,

Just after i got my tt mk2 remapped 252 hp 326nm torque i had a play with a s3 looked a little tuned tbh but i couldnt shake until i got traction in about 3rd gear and he was still a sticky customer

s3's underrated performance car and can gain massive power from remaps alone

filter, intercooler, exhaust and stage 2 map £1500 would see your s3 close to 300bhp coupled with a 4 wheel driver set up it will ber very hard to shake

owned 2 audis highly recommend them thinking of going for the new s3 myself the 260hp is very tempting

I agree with the FWD thing tbh, at Crail dragstrip in my vts, I managed to keep with an astra vxr till mid 3rd gear (well over 70) and that was near bog standard. We both launched the exact same aswell. Go on youtube and look at S3 Crail. there are lots of videos on there and the S3 outlaunchs nearly everything they race.

The newer shape S3 is awesome aswell, love the alloys on it

[MiniGibbo]

RS.. Audis are for fags who cant drive.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[moxy89]

mk1 focus is what i am currently looking to buy i will be looking to spend 11-12k on one with low low miles on the clock and one owner. However they dont look that great ie not a huge difference to the other focus's on the market, (dont stand out) but i want on for the tuning potenital and the rareness

[MiniGibbo]

once again "Its just a focus with a big front bumper"

[L720]

Audi A3s are for hairdressers. Get the Ford.

[D--R--E--W]

Audi A3s are for hairdressers. Get the Ford.

A3's perhaps... Infact I thought TT's were slagged for being a hairdressers car? You cant just start to pull random cars out and call them a hairdressers car lol


S3 is a different story though

[MiniGibbo]

mgf, tf, TT's and 206's are hairdresser cars..

S3's are for hardcore enthusiastic fags.

[0rang3peel]

Would certainly rather either potential cars than a vomit yellow bmw that's for sure ;)

[MiniGibbo]

Would certainly rather either potential cars than a vomit yellow bmw that's for sure ;)

I get you with that "just a big front bumper" line everytime ;) :hug:

[Nik_L]

you know them 0-60 times complete bollocks no way a front wheel driver car will get off the mark and to 60 quicker than a 4 wheel car,

Just after i got my tt mk2 remapped 252 hp 326nm torque i had a play with a s3 looked a little tuned tbh but i couldnt shake until i got traction in about 3rd gear and he was still a sticky customer

s3's underrated performance car and can gain massive power from remaps alone

filter, intercooler, exhaust and stage 2 map £1500 would see your s3 close to 300bhp coupled with a 4 wheel driver set up it will ber very hard to shake

owned 2 audis highly recommend them thinking of going for the new s3 myself the 260hp is very tempting

Focus has an LSD as standard.Audi will probably weigh more,not to mention the 4wd system is pants.Spins up the front wheels before sending power to the rears.So in this case,its not going to launch as well as proper 4wd cars.

[0rang3peel]

I get you with that "just a big front bumper" line everytime ;) :hug:

Well we have to flirt somehow. :hug:

[Nik_L]

Oh and the only downside i could think of for the Focus as standard,is the shitty location of the inter-warmer.After a few mins of boosting,it starts to feel laggy and dosnt boost as hard.Gets too warm.

FMIC is needed.

[ShaneyG7]

Mates gf jst bought a Seat Leon Cupra K1 ... 240bhp.. ROCKET!

[D--R--E--W]

Focus has an LSD as standard.Audi will probably weigh more,not to mention the 4wd system is pants.Spins up the front wheels before sending power to the rears.So in this case,its not going to launch as well as proper 4wd cars.

DISAGREE!!! bollocks mate, the launch on them is fucking awesome. Me and my mate had a toy with each other in his scooby and I outlaunched him by a fair bit... As long as the traction control system is off you're good to go. The FRS and S3 are roughly the same the weight. the New FRS is shocking in weight, just over 1.6 tons

[manta]

Id say FRS or a teg r

[MiniGibbo]

Actully fuck the RS either get a Mint e36 m3 or a scabby e46 m3..

Both would rip the other two a new arsehole.

[makaveli144]

New FRS is shocking in weight, just over 1.6 tons

Where do you get your facts from? Its lighter than the S3???

Focus RS 1392kg

Audi S3 3dr Quattro 1455 kg

PS. Focus RS ftw, audi S3 is a lot more common, and bubbly looking, I prefer the aggressiveness of the FRS,

[D--R--E--W]

Where do you get your facts from? Its lighter than the S3???

Focus RS 1392kg

Audi S3 3dr Quattro 1455 kg

The new RS? Its what I was told tbh so not exactly accurate...

[Nik_L]

Id bet the Mk1 Focus weighs about 200kg less than an Audi S3.

What model of Scooby does your mate have??

Uk models are shit.Jap WRX Sti etc will launch from 0-60 in about 5s,maybe less.

[Nik_L]

Actully fuck the RS either get a Mint e36 m3 or a scabby e46 m3..

Both would rip the other two a new arsehole.

I like you.

[Rogue_Shadow]

I like the RS over the S3 for looks (I honestly dont know the specs of the S3)
But Not a huge fan of the MK1 RS. The MK2 looks aggressive and down right awesome IMO with some nice engine specs to back it up :D

[D--R--E--W]

Id bet the Mk1 Focus weighs about 200kg less than an Audi S3.

What model of Scooby does your mate have??

Uk models are shit.Jap WRX Sti etc will launch from 0-60 in about 5s,maybe less.

Its an Sti import, 312bhp rr'd

Just checked the weight of the new FRS and its 1467kgs
New S3 is 1455kgs and that will be due to the 4wd weighing it down.

[Cupra-Craig]

an you wont get an 1.8t lump to 300bhp on standard turbo no way

Plus you loads of power through the 4wd on the s3

[D--R--E--W]

an you wont get an 1.8t lump to 300bhp on standard turbo no way

Plus you loads of power through the 4wd on the s3

280 is acheivable though. Still fast

[makaveli144]

Just checked the weight of the new FRS and its 1467kgs

My bad,wisebuyers said different but I looked since and you are right.

[Cupra-Craig]

280 is acheivable though. Still fast

Imo on a set of dd rollers you wont which will give the best readings. Badger bill proved this more like 250 at the best. still them on other rollers an yeah will see 2870-280.

An you would lose a load through the s3 4wd system

An it depends what you call fast these days

[D--R--E--W]

Imo on a set of dd rollers you wont which will give the best readings. Badger bill proved this more like 250 at the best. still them on other rollers an yeah will see 2870-280.

An you would lose a load through the s3 4wd system

An it depends what you call fast these days

Fast enough for what I am after...

Jabbasport custom map see's 280 with supporting mods

[Nik_L]

If you can sacrifice speed for looks,go for the Racing Puma.

Girls knickers will drop to theyr ankles at the sight of it.

[D--R--E--W]

If you can sacrifice speed for looks,go for the Racing Puma.

Girls knickers will drop to theyr ankles at the sight of it.

LOL Take it you have one then ;)

[Cupra-Craig]

like i siad tho get it on a set of dd rollers straight off jabba's ones an see the different theres about 20 difference from theres to awersome at manchester.

mate has a 400bhp polo on the dd rollers an on most other gets at least 480bhp

[Nik_L]

LOL Take it you have one then ;)

I wish.

Had to settle for a normal 1.lol.

[K17NEY]

Actully fuck the RS either get a Mint e36 m3 or a scabby e46 m3..

Both would rip the other two a new arsehole.


Totally agree with you on that one massive, E36 M3's are very under estimated cars, And beautifull.

[JoshB]

If you can sacrifice speed for looks,go for the Racing Puma.

Girls knickers will drop to theyr ankles at the sight of it.

Girls wont understand a Racing Puma, theyre knickers are more likely to drop at a 1.2 Clio

[maddison_vts]

They are beautiful cars and can easily get them drifting

please tell me you are joking?

the 4wd system is the wrong way around! fwd all the time and throws a little bit of power to the back if you need it! that's a joke and it definitely 100% cannot be used for drifting. if it could, you would have imprezas going everywhere broadside! drifting is stepping the back out and holding it out with both of the rear wheels spinning at the same time (no open diff crap)
an s3 will not hold a drift. it will step out for a fraction of a second and that will be it unless you're on ice.

the r32gtr has the right idea for a 4wd system, rwd all the time and throws a bit of power to the front if you need it.

as for them being powerful? they are pretty boring, nowhere near as quick as they are made out to be and thirsty.
on the flip side, they are lovely and comortable inside and feel very well built but for a fun car, they don't really cut it.

focus rs imo, but can you really bring yourself to spend that much money on focus that in standard form isn't that quick either? would need over a grand spending on it to make it interesting enough imo. and then you have the problem of traction.
personally something rwd or something with a PROPER 4wd system.

[Frankay]

S3 everyday of the week simples. Much better looking and comfortable a touch of class. My friend has a focus RS mehh just looks like a focus slightly modded, Not a fan tbh Audi for the win!

[Nik_L]

Girls wont understand a Racing Puma, theyre knickers are more likely to drop at a 1.2 Clio

They wouldnt need to understand it.Just looking at it would be enough.

Bad-ass looks from a hair-dressers cars.

Its a win win situation.

[Nik_L]

Totally agree with you on that one massive, E36 M3's are very under estimated cars, And beautifull.

TBH they arent really under-estimated.

They are built by BMW's ///M division and are expected to do exactly what it says on the tin.Which of course they do.

328i Sports are how-ever under-estimated.Not like an M3,but the best of the E36 range.Not including the M3 of course.

[MiniGibbo]

Totally agree with you on that one massive, E36 M3's are very under estimated cars, And beautifull.

TBH they arent really under-estimated.

They are built by BMW's ///M division and are expected to do exactly what it says on the tin.Which of course they do.

328i Sports are how-ever under-estimated.Not like an M3,but the best of the E36 range.Not including the M3 of course.

Thats because e36's are the Don ;) :A:

[K17NEY]

Thats because e36's are the Don ;) :A:

E30's are better. Especially my step dad's dtm engined rally car.

[MiniGibbo]

E30's are better. Especially my step dad's dtm engined rally car.

As much as I love e30 m3's I think id still take a e36 over one..

Never driven an e30 m3 but I hear the 100hp they lack dosent even come into it there that epic lol.

Somone I know who had a boggo e30 m3 said he got passed one night by a diesel mondeo :S

[stinkycheese]

As much as I love e30 m3's I think id still take a e36 over one..

Never driven an e30 m3 but I hear the 100hp they lack dosent even come into it there that epic lol.

Somone I know who had a boggo e30 m3 said he got passed one night by a diesel mondeo :S

I can believe that. They aren't that fast by today's standards. I'd love one though.

[K17NEY]

As much as I love e30 m3's I think id still take a e36 over one..

Never driven an e30 m3 but I hear the 100hp they lack dosent even come into it there that epic lol.

Somone I know who had a boggo e30 m3 said he got passed one night by a diesel mondeo :S

As a road car yes, But the E30's can be made look and sound like this mind.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/kitney/7226_264006955580_879540580_8965724_6288052_n-1.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8vLDhk_6qQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RouVQCoB8-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5oAInf_ifA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[Rotrex_Rallye]

No brainer for me! Gotta be the RS. They hold value very well.

[D--R--E--W]

please tell me you are joking?

the 4wd system is the wrong way around! fwd all the time and throws a little bit of power to the back if you need it!


The split is 55 front 45 rear, I phones Audi today to settle an argument between myself and my friend. The new ones are 65 front and 35 rear. Turn the traction control off and be brave on a roundabout and it will go. I was initially meaning on snow though... and they do shift very well for a heavier car.


No brainer for me! Gotta be the RS. They hold value very well.

So does the S3 though.... 51 plate for example will still sell for 6k+ and the FRSmk1 52plate for 7k+

[Dizzy]

What is your budget? 10k would get you a B6 S4 with a 4.2 V8 in it and manual transmission. Theyre a lot of car for the cash too. Certainly rather have one of those over an old S3, FRS or an E36 M3. I dont know why I didnt buy one TBH, I regret going 2.0 turbo and not V8 now. But I'll be getting a B7 S4, new shape S3 or E46 M3 in the spring so I suppose I can redeem myself.

Either way though, if you have the money... premium brands are worth the extra. FRS are a cool car, but id buy an ESCOS or series 1 rs turbo over one of them if I was going for a fast ford to keep.

[MiniGibbo]

"Quattro ist fur sissies"

[D--R--E--W]

"Quattro ist fur sissies"

Is any of your posts ever constructive?

[Jaytee]

Just to say as well got a quote 1245 for a pulsar gti-r. Really wild card choice as they are a little temperamental/unreliable so i hear.

[MiniGibbo]

Is any of your posts ever constructive?

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk96/xmattgibsonx/blackteapot.jpg

[Nik_L]

Just to say as well got a quote 1245 for a pulsar gti-r. Really wild card choice as they are a little temperamental/unreliable so i hear.

On this occasion,play the wild card.

Engines are strong so long as they are set-up properly if they are tuned.

Gearboxes are a week point.Dont launch it at 5k+rpm on a constant basis,change the fluid regularly etc and it will be fine.

Proper,simple 4wd system too.

Exhaust system,uprated fuel pump,decent air filter,cooler plugs and a boost controller(manual will be fine) set to 1.1bar and you will see a reliable 310+bhp.
With that you will destroy S3's,Focus RS's and quite alot of so called fast cars.Acceleration can only be described as insane.They hook up like nothing else.
Brakes arent the best but can be upgraded.

Had 1 running 313bhp and never once came across anything on the road that gave me any hassle.Had 4pots,suspension that was set-up for handling,4point cage etc.Only thing that gave it grief was an E46 M3 CSL around Knockhill but he still didnt have the out-right pace to pass.

With your budget you should be able to pick up a good example with most of the above up-grades.And you wont regret it.

[Jaytee]

So much to actually choose from. Focus st 225 is epically cheap to insure too. Nice 5 pot turbo as well. Hmmmm. Gonna have to have a month of test driving cars.

[Cupra-Craig]

All depends on what your into. As imo the new end cars are nice an all that an are kind of quick but dont have the x factor.
Can buy older stuff like the pulsar that look different on the road an are cheaper an with money saved get some nice mods an you then have a hot old school car which imo are better but all depends on what your into