Toyota Corolla T Sport

[johnlambert]

Whats everyones opinion on these???
Im talking about the 2004 facelift model

1.8,190bhp
same engine as the celica...

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/584279-m3662283.jpg

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/584279-m3662279.jpg.

what are they like to drive?
do they have any common faults?
how expensive are mods etc coilovers..


cheers..

[yeahbuddy]

Whats everyones opinion on these???
Im talking about the 2004 facelift model

1.8,190bhp
same engine as the celica...

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/584279-m3662283.jpg

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/584279-m3662279.jpg.

what are they like to drive?
do they have any common faults?
how expensive are mods etc coilovers..


cheers..


lad i knew had one but it was the 225 compressor1, and it never went wrong till the gearbox blew but thats just because he breaks everythin mechanical. if it was a normal person driving it it would't of broke imo, id buy one sorry its probably not much help buts its gooa be reliabe in't it.

[Matt67]

Only an extra 35hp for the supercharged version?

[cloke]

a mate of mine had one and said it was a brilliant car, quick and handled really well, the only reason he sold it was for a truck for work.

[yeahbuddy]

Only an extra 35hp for the supercharged version?

i guess so i dont think it was 255 but i could be mistaken dont think i am though im pretty good with car specs

[johnlambert]

supercharged version is 215bhp

[Matt67]

supercharged version is 215bhp

25 bhp more! That seems ridiculous for a charger!

[johnlambert]

25 bhp more! That seems ridiculous for a charger!

http://www.rsportscars.com/toyota/2006-toyota-corolla-compressor/

[yeahbuddy]

25 bhp more! That seems ridiculous for a charger!

35 isnt it? 190 to 225 is 35 lol

[yeahbuddy]

supercharged version is 215bhp

seriously i thought it 225 maybe he was lying

[Peter_D]

As i said to you, i've drove the 190bhp version, and it was pretty quick, power kicks in sharply at 6k rpm, limiter is 8k though...so just basically like VTEC...so you can't go wrong :y:

The rev limiter on them sounds like a motorbike aswell, rapid

Definately need to stick an induction kit on it if you get one to hear the VVTi changeover y0

[D--R--E--W]

I'd say these are quite rare tbh, never see them going about

[johnlambert]

As i said to you, i've drove the 190bhp version, and it was pretty quick, power kicks in sharply at 6k rpm, limiter is 8k though...so just basically like VTEC...so you can't go wrong :y:

The rev limiter on them sounds like a motorbike aswell, rapid

Definately need to stick an induction kit on it if you get one to hear the VVTi changeover y0

they sound pretty awesome from that description!!
they look a fun car too!

I'd say these are quite rare tbh, never see them going about

indeed mate,thats why i like them!! no clio for me after the pug!!

just about as rare as a yellow s3;)

[Raz]

They are a less-hyped than a Type R EP3, and a tad slower. They seem rare as Drew said and also under rated...I mean, you dont expect a Corolla to be quick now do you?

[D--R--E--W]

indeed mate,thats why i like them!! no clio for me after the pug!!

just about as rare as a yellow s3;)

Yeah, I'm not into getting a clio thats really no faster than a vts either lol

Cupra was a good step up and then the S3 is just awesomeness rolled into one big yellow submarine :y:

I've always liked that shape yota's

[Raz]

Everyone who knows Jazz from here (drove a Red Accord Type R, then a Prodrive Scooby, and now a Civic Type R Ep3) wrote this review on another car forum. Its a good read tbh :y:

http://www.performancetorque.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=432

[johnlambert]

Everyone who knows Jazz from here (drove a Red Accord Type R, then a Prodrive Scooby, and now a Civic Type R Ep3) wrote this review on another car forum. Its a good read tbh :y:

http://www.performancetorque.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=432

very very honest review!! cheers for the link!!

[Raz]

very very honest review!! cheers for the link!!
Google for more reviews before fully deciding :y:

[johnlambert]

Google for more reviews before fully deciding :y:

ive read a good few already!! i still like the car,and its an improvement from the gti if i do buy it!
reliable,jap,tuneable,stylish enough
has power etc..

i just need a car that wont break if a fly farts near it!!
its cheaper on insurance than the gti also..

[Peter_D]

Here's a good 1/4 mile video of a T-Sport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVe2kdvBRbo&feature=related

[johnlambert]

Yeah, I'm not into getting a clio thats really no faster than a vts either lol

Cupra was a good step up and then the S3 is just awesomeness rolled into one big yellow submarine :y:

I've always liked that shape yota's

clios are all ragged over here and just:homme:

i want a strongly bulid car anywyay,no more frenchies so!!

cupra was pretty sweet alright! did you get those pics of the dials yet?

[D--R--E--W]

Here's a good 1/4 mile video of a T-Sport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVe2kdvBRbo&feature=related

Just me or does that look mentally slow lol

[D--R--E--W]

clios are all ragged over here and just:homme:

i want a strongly bulid car anywyay,no more frenchies so!!

cupra was pretty sweet alright! did you get those pics of the dials yet?

Dials??

[Furio-92]

It just looks like a stretched out yaris to me, not my cup of tea

[Peter_D]

Just me or does that look mentally slow lol

Does look slow in the vid aye but you can hear it screaming through the gears and 14.8 aint too bad a time

They definately feel quicker when driving them too

[D--R--E--W]

Does look slow in the vid aye but you can hear it screaming through the gears and 14.8 aint too bad a time

They definately feel quicker when driving them too

I got a 15 dead in my cupra when it was stage1 after I first got it. Saying that though, it was at Crail lol. hardly the best drag around is it lol

[Peter_D]

I've never been to Craill but i wanna go this year! We can meet up :fcuk:

[D--R--E--W]

I've never been to Craill but i wanna go this year! We can meet up :fcuk:

That's if it aint sold mate! It may be getting sold for development...

If not though we will meet and race to the death

[johnlambert]

Dials??

your progress thread!!

[johnlambert]

Does look slow in the vid aye but you can hear it screaming through the gears and 14.8 aint too bad a time

They definately feel quicker when driving them too

I got a 15 dead in my cupra when it was stage1 after I first got it. Saying that though, it was at Crail lol. hardly the best drag around is it lol

still better than my gti!!

:fcuk:

[Nik_L]

14.8 is about CTR pace.No bad considering on paper the Civic has more power and is about 2secs quicker to 60.

Id have a T Sport tbh,as Drew said,its not a car you see everyday.Which is what i like.

Only other Corolla id have would be an AE86.

Had a shot of a Corolla Gti-16 and it went no bad.

[Peter_D]

That's if it aint sold mate! It may be getting sold for development...

If not though we will meet and race to the death

LOL race to the death, definately! The Teg will whoop the S3 :A:

[D--R--E--W]

Only other Corolla id have would be an AE86.


Sneddon from Falkirk had one. He loved it

[Nik_L]

Oh and Peter,dont waste your time going to Crail.Its shit.And the piece of tarmac they call the 1/4mile is fukin horrendous.

[D--R--E--W]

LOL race to the death, definately! The Teg will whoop the S3 :A:

I'll crack the jokes bro lol

[makaveli144]

14.8 is about CTR pace.No bad considering on paper the Civic has more power and is about 2secs quicker to 60.

He also says its the fastest one in the UK,so its not the norm. They do 8.4 secs 0-60,they definately arent quick,a VTS/GTI will do it a second quicker.

Also the handling is well,soft and rolly,just like any other toyota. The interior is plasticity and the styling horrible... imo of course.

I think you will regret it massively to be honest matey.

It quickly becomes apparent that the Stilo and Corolla are quite ordinary chassis-wise. The best you can say about the Toyota is that it has a good ride. It never feels poised or focused, never feels like a GTI, and that headline-grabbing engine hides all its power away at the very top of its rev range. It's often caught floundering around in the mid-range and even when you do tap into the power band, it's a struggle to keep there, even with six gears to choose from.


Along with the new front and rear lights common to all revamped Corollas, bumpers finished with a mesh grille now feature, as well as a large rear spoiler and low side skirts. Yet despite the changes, the T Sport still lacks the visual appeal of its rivals.

Inside, it's a similar story. The car is comfortable and ergonomically sound, and Toyota's attempts to liven up the cabin with carbon fibre-effect trim and white-faced dials are welcome. But the cabin still looks a bit dull.

[Peter_D]

Is Crail actually that bad? Hmmm..

Nowhere else local for 1/4 mile racing? There used to be a place up here further North but i think some guy hit a pothole on his motorbike and came off it, so they stopped it

[D--R--E--W]

Crail is ok for just having fun, but wouldn't take the reading to heart tbh. Stage 1 cupra's usually get around 14.6's.

Crail has a hill then tails off to a slight slope and the road aint the best

[Peter_D]

I think the reason the Corolla's have a bad 0-60 is because of the time it takes them to hit 6k rpm for the VVTi to kick in.. On a grippy surface it may not spin, so it drags on and on til 6k rpm...then takes off.. Watched quite a few videos of them just now and they are all similar, poor take off speeds

But once you're going, change as late as possible and it stays on 6krpm in the next gear so you're always on cam

I bet the 40-100mph speed is alot more impressive than the 0-60mph

[Nik_L]

Yes its that bad.

How many 1/4mile strips have you seen with potholes.Not to mention the surface has no grip.
And dont get me started on the timing gear.Id trust Bernards Watch before the timing gear.

[D--R--E--W]

Yes its that bad.

How many 1/4mile strips have you seen with potholes.Not to mention the surface has no grip.
And dont get me started on the timing gear.Id trust Bernards Watch before the timing gear.

The timing gear was re-newed in the middle of that season there....

[Nik_L]

When was the last time you ran up at Crail??

[johnlambert]

whats the t sport like for mods people????
eg,how much would coilovers be?
airfilter?
exhaust etc

[D--R--E--W]

When was the last time you ran up at Crail??

Last time I ran was at the Cupra.net meet in may/june and the last time I was there was October...

[johnlambert]

wow mods are almost double for the corolla!! kind of what i expected though!!

[VTRelite]

Have driven a fair few in my time (as I work for Toyota) and everytime I come back off roadtest I want one.

Such an awesome sucking noise especially when VVTL-i (Variable Valve Timing Lift Intelligence for the nerds out there) kicks in and you do get a small kick in the stomach.

As for handling in the lanes near work, can't fault them. Always love being in 2nd and 3rd and just giving it a work over. Would recommend stiffening everything up though as, yes I said I can't fault it, every car can be improved. Would benefit from slapping some tasty 4pots on there.

As has been said, they are under hyped compared to VTEC as quite simply, VTEC is better. It takes a master gear shifter to keep these in 'boost' so to speak when changing gear. Celica T-Sports are diabolical for this as the gate on 2nd gear always sticks without fail.

So overall (this is my opinion not a Toyota bias one lols), I am currently saving to buy one to replace my 106 GTi as in my experience at Toyota, I can not remember them ever coming in with a serious fault. Keep them looked after and they will look after you

[johnlambert]

thanks for your input mate!!nice info!!
so there is a nice fun factor to it?

[TomT]

Don't see many of them about,

My mates got one though an it's pretty damn quick tbh, when it hits lift your heads throw back in your seat.

He took me for a little spin in it and it pulled strongly straight to 120 in no time.

Nice inside aswell, can't tell you much else about them I'm afraid.

[johnlambert]

Don't see many of them about,

My mates got one though an it's pretty damn quick tbh, when it hits lift your heads throw back in your seat.

He took me for a little spin in it and it pulled strongly straight to 120 in no time.

Nice inside aswell, can't tell you much else about them I'm afraid.

cheers mate! nice to hear more positive things!!:y:

[Dave89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVDnvai97Cc&feature=related
Supercharged one sounds pretty epic tbh

[SnakeVTR]

Only driven one Corrola T-sport on road test and i was surprised at how quick it was, i would like to own one :y:

[johnlambert]

ok guys,im a little confused about this!! the facelift model was released in 2004...

yet i see two styles of facelift models..
i presume the two were released at diff times of the year???

1. this style...


http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/csport.jpg

meshed lower bumper,diff shape fogs

2. Other 2004 model.

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/tcs3.jpg

slats at the bottom of the bumper


anyone know?
thanks..

[Caino]

i quite like these, i'd prefer them in a 3 door though !

[Stissy]

bit more infomation here mate:
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317070

[CraigLovelock]

You have to get the compressor...

The sound of the that supercharger is amazing and never seen one on the road tbh.

Well worth 6k imo.

[Dave89]

You have to get the compressor...

The sound of the that supercharger is amazing and never seen one on the road tbh.

Well worth 6k imo.

+1 I posted a video of it earlier in the thread and it sounds <3

[CraigLovelock]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2208523.htm

[Caino]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/2208523.htm

i really like that, think it has potential to look mint !

[johnlambert]

You have to get the compressor...

The sound of the that supercharger is amazing and never seen one on the road tbh.

Well worth 6k imo.

insurance would be too much...
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2208523.htm

too bad im in a diff country...
vrt would kill me anyway,cost too much to get the car registered..

[akuakabucy]

My brother has one. Its a cracking car, his is the 6 gear version. Its not very nippy I suppose but does kick in at 6k. 6-8k is good fun. His has the leather interior which when going around a corner feels like im going to fall out the seat but dont think many come iwth leather. Plus im used to Clio sport and Saxo seats which you are sort of held in. We got his from auction, 1 owner full history etc etc, so obv not ragged about or boy raced up. I saw one lowered a while back though and it looked 10 times better. It feels like the handling is shite, but that me comparing it to the clio.

But would still reccomend one all day

[johnlambert]

test drove one this evening!! loved it!! steering is very responsive...
its quite pokey in the low revs..
didnt give lift a try as the roads are still quite bad...

very comfortable and easy to drive!!
didnt get any pics as it was too dark.

[R32_Ian]

just been offered 1 at a good price but i think i will have 2 leave it as the insurance is 3000.00 for me with 2 yrs no claims and 4 yrs driving experience

[Peter_D]

So you're saying the insurance for a Corolla is more expensive than a Golf R32??

Why would you even consider one anyway?

[Raz]

So you're saying the insurance for a Corolla is more expensive than a Golf R32??

Why would you even consider one anyway?
Do you even think he has a R32? :detective:

[haz_pro]

Do you think he has a R32?

Car(s): Current: Golf R32

Yes.....

[R32_Ian]

im on my dads policy for the golf paying £2180.00 a year but he wont be doin it when it renewal time in April so i am looking for sumin thats guna be fun to drive
or try to get trades insurance

[dougieph2]

I'd say these are quite rare tbh, never see them going about

theres one kicks about bathgate

[D--R--E--W]

theres one kicks about bathgate

Yeah there is also one in Whitburn, I meant they are rare, as in the aint exactly a saxo lol

[dougieph2]

lol good point i suppose

[sparky771]

Like these, did they do a turbo one or just a supercharged and N/A?

Cause theres one that knocks about near me a red one with white wheels smart as fuck and im sure it sounded turboed :panic: could of been S/charged though.....

[sparky771]

ok guys,im a little confused about this!! the facelift model was released in 2004...

yet i see two styles of facelift models..
i presume the two were released at diff times of the year???

1. this style...


http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/csport.jpg

meshed lower bumper,diff shape fogs

2. Other 2004 model.

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/tcs3.jpg

slats at the bottom of the bumper


anyone know?
thanks..

The bottom looks like an pre-facelift so prehaps its an early 2004 model.

[johnlambert]

The bottom looks like an pre-facelift so prehaps its an early 2004 model.

yeah it is..:y:

[jdr]

not a saxo and therofre not a car lol

[johnlambert]

not a saxo and therofre not a car lol

gtfo noob

[VTRelite]

Pre facelifts look just like a normal Corolla apart from a few details.

facelifts look a lot better with the tear drop headlights and even better if they got the tte bodykit on

[johnlambert]

bump on this!! any other opinions on the t sport?

[MiniGibbo]

There great for parking in disabled bays and have a wonderful parcel shelf for putting your hat and tissue box???

[Mieran]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9e2cycvtU

[johnlambert]

There great for parking in disabled bays and have a wonderful parcel shelf for putting your hat and tissue box???

nobjockey..

[johnlambert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9e2cycvtU

yeah i watched that a few weeks ago!!
certainly wont be getting a clio..
type r is too expensive on insurance..

[MiniGibbo]

That's is quite possibly the worst thing i have ever watched.. "I like hot hatches because people try and race you on the road" fucking bellends!

[Clawliger]

ok guys,im a little confused about this!! the facelift model was released in 2004...

yet i see two styles of facelift models..
i presume the two were released at diff times of the year???

1. this style...


http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/csport.jpg

meshed lower bumper,diff shape fogs

2. Other 2004 model.

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x432/john106gti/tcs3.jpg


slats at the bottom of the bumper


anyone know?
thanks..

lol. Thats my car. The lighter colour one. The difference is mines a Pre-face lift and the darker one is a Facelift model. I love my t-sport. But mine is fairly modified tbh.

[Clawliger]

This is my small thread on toyota owners club.

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=109803&st=0

and heres the thread with mine and my mate bridges car. From picture earlier in the thread.

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117943&st=0

[Clawliger]

And this is my exhaust before my new manifold.

http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/clawliger/IMG_0389.mp4

[johnlambert]

thats where i got the pics from mate!!
thanks