Wrong section I know but it's important...

[manta]

Right just got my old car back.

It has a vt front bumper on it with fogs but the fogs aren't wired up.

I have the wiring and one bulb holder connector thingy but I need another one which I will get asap.

MOT is wednesday so needs to be sorted.

I plugged the fog light loom into the connector in the engine bay and put a bulb in, switched the fogs on and nothing happened.

Is this because there is only one bulb or because there is no power going through it?

Thanks

Rob

[Moke]

Just take the fogs out til the MOT is over and then sort it?

[manta]

Just take the fogs out til the MOT is over and then sort it?

Take them out? Do I need to remove the bumper or just get under her?

[Moke]

Take them out? Do I need to remove the bumper or just get under her?

Just under.

There are 2 or 3 bolts or torx that need unscrewing IIRC.

[manta]

Just under.

There are 2 or 3 bolts or torx that need unscrewing IIRC.

Ok this will defo get it through the MOT right?

[geoffgti88]

Fogs are not part of the test so dont worry about it just leave them in doesent matter if they work or not. Same goes for the reverse light.

[Moke]

Same goes for the reverse light.

Really?

[saxo_singh]

Just take the fog lights out, then you can't fail mot then as there not there to test.

[Chris_O]

If the fogs are on the car and not working, it's a fail iirc. Therefore as said just take them out for the mot, its only 3 simple bolts to do from under the front bumper. Mine passed absolutely fine with them removed

[GRAHAM2000VTR]

front fog lights are in no way part of a MOT working or not just the rear fog light needs to work

[moxy89]

No, it bull shit if their on the car they have to work. Take them out and it fine if you leave them in and they dont it will fail. And for the reverse light shut up... it does have to work..

[Dano]

as said

if they are ON the car but dont work it will fail..

take em out and they cant test em.. win.

[manta]

Just dropped them off and covered the holes with indestructible electrical tape.

Found some surface rust in the front left arch as well so I'm blasting, killing and sealing it as we speak!

[Moke]

I knew I was right!

Damn you who made me doubt myself!

[chinkostu]

No, it bull shit if their on the car they have to work. Take them out and it fine if you leave them in and they dont it will fail. And for the reverse light shut up... it does have to work..

my mums 306 never had a working reverse light. passed loads of MOT's

and front fogs do not have to be working. i had them on the 1.1 not wired in, never got tested (and this was a real, real stringent station!)

spare tyre can't fail the car either, before someone chimes in. or rear wiper.

[Moke]

No spare tyre wil... DAMN IT!

;)

[chinkostu]

No spare tyre wil... DAMN IT!

;)

i ain't a tester but i've had plenty of cars through MOT's so i know what will and won't fail ;)

[Moke]

i ain't a tester but i've had plenty of cars through MOT's so i know what will and won't fail ;)

Will it fail if I have "M4 S4X0 IS W3LL B4D" on the back window?

Just wonderin'.

[Jay_]

Will it fail if I have "M4 S4X0 IS W3LL B4D" on the back window?

Just wonderin'.

shut up moke.:hug: of course it will

[D--R--E--W]

No, it bull shit if their on the car they have to work. Take them out and it fine if you leave them in and they dont it will fail. And for the reverse light shut up... it does have to work..

No, the reverse light is not essentail, you can have one or not and it can be any colour you wish apart from red. I know this for a fact, I have 3 mates who are all MOT qualified.

my mums 306 never had a working reverse light. passed loads of MOT's

and front fogs do not have to be working. i had them on the 1.1 not wired in, never got tested (and this was a real, real stringent station!)

spare tyre can't fail the car either, before someone chimes in. or rear wiper.

My corsa has front fogs that don't work and it's a pass. Spare tyre not being in the holder will not fail, a spare tyre being there but bald or flat will fail.

[chinkostu]

Will it fail if I have "M4 S4X0 IS W3LL B4D" on the back window?

Just wonderin'.

:n: :n:

need to write up a definitive list of what does and doesn't fail a car. rust is a prime one, as a car can pass an MOT with rust, it just depends where it is and how bad!

[Moke]

shut up moke.:hug: of course it will

Oh, for fuck sake! :(

*Takes sticker off window*

[GRAHAM2000VTR]

here you go mate check the mot check list http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79728

all you need on the lighting system is:

x2 working front side lights (white)
x2 working front dip beam
x2 working front main beam
x2 working front indicators (orange)
x2 working side repeaters (orange)
x2 working rear side lights
x2 working numberplate bulb (if 2 fitted as some cars only have 1)
x2 working rear stop lights, centre stop light is a grey area if not working on mot as the tester has to prove it conected to the switch
x2 working rear indicators (orange)
x1 working rear fog light either set to the right lamp or the centre

[geoffgti88]

Really?

Yes really. My mate is a mot tester

[geoffgti88]

my mums 306 never had a working reverse light. passed loads of MOT's

and front fogs do not have to be working. i had them on the 1.1 not wired in, never got tested (and this was a real, real stringent station!)

spare tyre can't fail the car either, before someone chimes in. or rear wiper.

Thank you :) you are correct reverse lights and foglights are not testable items same for spare tyres.

[enthrone]

:n: :n:

need to write up a definitive list of what does and doesn't fail a car. rust is a prime one, as a car can pass an MOT with rust, it just depends where it is and how bad!

Rist will fail if within 12 inches of a suspension mount iirc.

[chinkostu]

Rist will fail if within 12 inches of a suspension mount iirc.

within 30cm of any load bearing structure ;)

[Goldsax]

yeh if its on the car and doesnt work its a fail, just a like a fu*ked rear wiper blade..will fail...but if you de-wiper it wont ;)

and the plug for the fog loom is on the outside of the passenger chassie leg, its a green plug...there is one on the other side of the chassie leg, its the same plug and fits the fog loom lol...heres a picture (best i can find on google) you can see it hanging down on the bottom right of the pic,,,cant describe it much better...just checking that you have the right plug lol

http://www.colinhirdautobodies.co.uk/USERIMAGES/LEG%20PULL%20SAXO.jpg

[saxo-dude-16v]

you do not need a reversing light as its considered a courtesy light.

[chinkostu]

yeh if its on the car and doesnt work its a fail, just a like a fu*ked rear wiper blade..will fail...but if you de-wiper it wont ;)

Not true

How do vans and saloons pass then? Theres no requirement for a rear wiper, so its never tested

[VTRelite]

Front fog lights are in no way at all part of the test. Have sat in many an MOT and have never been told to put the front fogs on.

Same goes with the reverse light, not tested

[bonesvtr]

youd be suprised at what will pass an mot, a lot of my mates are testers,

stupid things like, if youve got a crack in the front bumper and its got a sharp edge, it can fail, but you can take the bumper off, and have two big chassis legs sticking out 4 inch but it cant be failed for sharp edges.

a ball joint/track rod end e.t.c can be buggered, but unless the tester thinks its going to crumble away on the way home and cause an accident, then it can only be passed and advised.

the same with cat's, theres no stipulation in the mot saying that a cat has to be fitted (regardless of age of the car) all it says is if its fitted, it has to be secure and not leaking.

with rust, even in the obvious load bearing places (30cm of engine, body,or seatbelt mounts) theyre not allowed to tap it with a hammer or go poking at it with screwdrivers anymore, theyre only allowed push with an index finger or non pointy end of a pen! if they cant push it through then its a pass!:wacko:

[Ciarannn]

Yeah but bare in mind you will need a cat to pass emissions test

[Goldsax]

Not true

How do vans and saloons pass then? Theres no requirement for a rear wiper, so its never tested

i know theres not a requirment for a wiper, but if its there it needs to be in working condition, its not a requirment for it to be presnt ;)

[carl300367]

spare tyre will fail if its present if it aint there then its not part of the MOT

[Bound]

My car went through with a smashed foglight, both don't work. Well I say it went through, it didn't, but it didn't fail on the foglights ;).