Impressive thing at autosport.

[adamskiTNR]

The most impressive thing i saw at autosport (innovation wise) was at the eibach stand. they have developed hollow anti roll bars. they have one on a stand next to an h&r item. the weight saving is dramatic. over 40%

[Matt-T]

I also saw these today, and the Saxmax saxo. I have a picture somewhere. Is just one ace car show

[stokesy]

was ther today too, and was bloody awesome..
you see the live arena stuff?
some of the engines were insane..

[harry289]

poor fiesta rally x car that smashed in the arena :\

saxmax saxo was for sale :P

i watched some of the karting later on in the day. some of the crashes looked brutal! haha

[stokesy]

the reliant robins haha.. few roled em was hilarious..
thought was gna be f1 car tho :(..
and that saxo was for sale? how much?
and yea bet mateys dad was gutted about the fiesat, was funny tho.
and terry grant in the evo was incredible, sounded sooo good

[harry289]

that evo popped like nothing else iv heard. constant flame on tick over after aha. 3 wheelers aha. just rolled them and then pushed themselves back upright. must be a good laugh.

not sure on price matey

[stokesy]

the poppong was insane, and yea flaming sooo much, looked immense..
well ther was that red 3 wheeler that couldnt get himself back up, the otehr 1 managed to rock himself back up..
u have a go in the drift caterham or the karting??

[Gazer]

spotted you at autosport show come on own up who owns it :P
lool
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy159/gazer1990/017.jpg

[harry289]

nahh i'm tight for money. saving really hard for some track goodies.

watched the karting a lot. some well beastly crashes after the pit straight. made me lol.

did you at all?

[harry289]

theres that saxmax. probably some lucky 14-17 year old owns it atm...

[dougieph2]

would strength be compromised with the ARB being hollow though?

[adamskiTNR]

what kind of strength do you want for the arb? and that Ferguson motorsport saxo copied westbourne motorsport's colour scheme. now they look the same. ish

[dougieph2]

enough strength that it wont crack

[Bedford126]

they did a test in the redline mag and the arb is hollow but has a hex internal so is actually stronger in the ways of torsion than the solid metal bar.

[adamskiTNR]

hex internal. very clever. i wonder if it is die'd into a long bar, then bent into shape, somehow keeping the hex true

[adamskiTNR]

maybe it's a mandrel die. so the die moves and bends the form as it makes it. that would work

[Bedford126]

i have no clue i just saw the one they cut in half and thought you clever fucker's 2 times the surface area inside a tube that's some clever shit.

[adamskiTNR]

the thing that impresses me is hollow sprung steel. just never seen it done before. the hexagon shape must be a key when using sprung materials

[Bedford126]

must be something to do with it unless its just easier to keep it lightweight whilst being able to take the torsion forces they face. apparently wrc teams have being using these in a trial basis for around 2 years i did a google search lol.

[adamskiTNR]

those crafty wrc teams. shows you where the £500,000 goes into those cars. prototype everything

[harry289]

when i went to prodrive every part of the car was made by themselves, from their own materials, own plans and spcifications, and so only their tools will fit.

[adamskiTNR]

got to love prodrive

[Bedford126]

when i went to prodrive every part of the car was made by themselves, from their own materials, own plans and spcifications, and so only their tools will fit.

this is true the bloke at work use to work for prodrive welding cages in there rally cars and he has a prodrive .5mm star (not torx different shape) socket set every socket goes up in .5's like 1,1.5,2,2.5 so on crazy to go to so much work that you have to make your own tools..

[harry289]

yeah they make their own tools. if one brakes they just get another one cut out by a computered machine. sorted.

not too keen on their mini countryman as a rally car though...

[KamRacing]

Basically the middle of the anti roll bar does nothing so theres no disadvantage to removing it.