Ban HID lights

[Kiwistar]

I'm peed off with these stupidly intense lights blinding me, to the point where I can't see cyclists/motorcyclists/pedestrians more than 10 feet in front of me, and the glare from behind is enough to set off a headache king kong would start ranting about.

If people truly need lights that bright, then I suggest they get themselves an eyesight test and a restricted licence from the DVLA because there is NO NEED for HID

[boony]

stop moaning. i've got hid's there great

[MiniGibbo]

Blah blah blah..


HID's are god sends on older cars :homme:

[Morgzc]

Im going to make sure that every time I see you around colchester I flick my high beam 8ks on. :P

[jonsey]

I sort of agree.. I HATE being blinded by peoples lights! Especially if im going round a courner then some twats lights blind me i can't see a thing and its quite dangerous!

But why would the care aslong as they can see better :)

[Kiwistar]

stop moaning. i've got hid's there great

I'm sure they're great behind the wheel, but in front of it, they suck

[JRC1]

stop moaning. i've got hid's there great

+1

They improve safety because now I can actually see where i'm fucking going!

[Kiwistar]

Im going to make sure that every time I see you around colchester I flick my high beam 8ks on. :P

Likewise :)

[Chr15]

agree. i flashed an audi q7 because i couldnt see, only they flashed back lol. some cars have stupidly bright HIDs

[haz_pro]

Its not HIDs in general, its the badly set up ones, i think any way?

[Morgzc]

Likewise :)

My 8k HIDs > Your yellowish 0.00005w bulbs

[MiniGibbo]

agree. i flashed an audi q7 because i couldnt see, only they flashed back lol. some cars have stupidly bright HIDs

It's the height of the lights too..

I've had it a few times in my van coming up behind people they think I'm flashing them, I'm not it's just my lights are the same height As they're rear view mirror.

[Kiwistar]

Blimey, drivers must have been driving blind before HID's came about, how did we survive!

Seriously, I'm not talking about how well HID lights the road for you, that isn't in dispute, I'm talking about how badly it affects other drivers vision on the roads and how that affects other road users

[boony]

alot of cars dont have the little cap things in the lights .

[MiniGibbo]

Blimey, drivers must have been driving blind before HID's came about, how did we survive!

Seriously, I'm not talking about how well HID lights the road for you, that isn't in dispute, I'm talking about how badly it affects other drivers vision on the roads and how that affects other road users

Maybe it's not our eyes it's your ageing eyes..

Been to specsavers lately?

[JRC1]

Blimey, drivers must have been driving blind before HID's came about, how did we survive!

Seriously, I'm not talking about how well HID lights the road for you, that isn't in dispute, I'm talking about how badly it affects other drivers vision on the roads and how that affects other road users

They don't if they are set up correctly like mine. It's the people that don't set them up right and have them aiming too high that causes issues! So in response to your thread, no HID's don't need to be banned if they are set up correctly.

[Morgzc]

Get a tinted windscreen. Problem solved. :P

[Peter_D]

I have HID's they are awesome, and if another car with HID's approaches me, i concentrate on where i'm going...you're probably getting attracted to the bright light and staring directly at their headlights

Aslong as i can see alot better, i will have a safer journey...if this means blinding another road user and causing them to crash, then so be it

[haz_pro]

http://www.speedyreg.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/horse-drawn-carriage.jpg

[Rogue_Shadow]

Its not HIDs in general, its the badly set up ones, i think any way?

That's what I always thought aswell :y:

[Rudpud]

OP get HID's and youll understand why they're good.

The only bad ones are the wrongly adjusted ones and the ones on things like the Q7, X5's because of the height of them.

[Mochachino]

the HIDS poeple fit on old shit cars like ours dont blind me, you can still see but u kinda squint abit.

The ones that come on mercs and all the new cars do my head, they have self leveling things dont they? So it looks like theyre flashing poeple and they do actually blind me, im like a rabbit in a headlight.

[Kiwistar]

My 8k HIDs > Your yellowish 0.00005w bulbs

I would say my penis is bigger than yours in retaliation, but I don't have one. On second thoughts...

[haz_pro]

I would say my penis is bigger than yours in retaliation, but I don't have one. On second thoughts...

On second thoughts you have a penis? haha :panic:

[Nik_L]

Also HID's in non projector headlights can cause it.The light output just gets scattered everywhere.
Setting them up properly on a beam setter is what is needed.But even at that it isnt a 100% cure as its all down to the headlight design too.

[Morgzc]

I would say my penis is bigger than yours in retaliation, but I don't have one. On second thoughts...

I have always wanted to meet a pre op transvestite. :D

[Kiwistar]

... im like a rabbit in a headlight.

ditto :( not a good combo for someone that suffers from light induced migraines. Normal h/lights don't do that to me, but HID's bring on almost instant migraine

[Kiwistar]

On second thoughts you have a penis? haha :panic:

Lmao, no I meant my little lady love bump may be bigger than his manhood :P

[Prickle]

Lmao, no I meant my little lady love bump/hole may be bigger than his manhood :P

:P

Mainly people who drive about with their high beams on annoy me.

[MartinDines]

2 blue balls of light. no beam direction or anything. annoys the hell out of me

[VTHall]

I have HID's they are awesome, and if another car with HID's approaches me, i concentrate on where i'm going...you're probably getting attracted to the bright light and staring directly at their headlights

Aslong as i can see alot better, i will have a safer journey...if this means blinding another road user and causing them to crash, then so be it

you never fail to make me laugh :clapping:

[Dave_P]

You missed the words "aftermarket" or "non OEM" in the thread title.

Otherwise i agree, ban the illegal fcukers from the road!

[Giraffe]

HID's are shit, I've never needed em to see where I was going, so if people do need em, they need to get their eyes tested.

Most people won't listen though OP, a lot of people are too self centred nowadays to give a shit about anyone else, same applies when it comes to the road.

[MiniGibbo]

HID's are shit, I've never needed em to see where I was going, so if people do need em, they need to get their eyes tested.

Most people won't listen though OP, a lot of people are too self centred nowadays to give a shit about anyone else, same applies when it comes to the road.

Get some 4300 in your dipped beam dude they make the lights ten times better!

They made the world of difference on a e36 let alone your old donk ;)

[Peter_D]

HID's are shit, I've never needed em to see where I was going, so if people do need em, they need to get their eyes tested.

Most people won't listen though OP, a lot of people are too self centred nowadays to give a shit about anyone else, same applies when it comes to the road.

Apologies for having HID's fitted to my car as standard :( So selfish of me, should of really bought a different car which doesn't have HID's

:p

[Giraffe]

Apologies for having HID's fitted to my car as standard :( So selfish of me, should of really bought a different car which doesn't have HID's

:p

You should have bought a different car anyway... like a German car!

@ Matt, I don't need better lights in it, I can see with the ones on it already! Although I am partial to some chavvy angel eyes...

[Peter_D]

You should have bought a different car anyway... like a German car!


I have a serious vendetta against Germans and German things, and so should you, they caused major grief and inconvenience to our ancestors

Also german birds all seem to have hairy gashes and pits

German things FTL :n:

[Giraffe]

I have a serious vendetta against Germans and German things, and so should you, they caused major grief and inconvenience to our ancestors

Also german birds all seem to have hairy gashes and pits

German things FTL :n:

My surname is of German origin I will have you know :P

[Peter_D]

I still love you even though you're Hitlers great grandson

[Kiwistar]

http://www.speedyreg.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/horse-drawn-carriage.jpg

Much as I feel compelled to respond to lots of comments posted since my last visit I felt kept coming back to this one because it gave me the giggles. As long as you don't fit that stallion up with HID's, you're rocking on my roads.

Oh, btw, my best friend in school was German and she (SHE) had hair all down her back. She was great, her backhair was not.

[Peter_D]

I hope that guy declared the aftermarket polished brass handrail on his cart otherwise he is driving uninsured

[haz_pro]

Much as I feel compelled to respond to lots of comments posted since my last visit I felt kept coming back to this one because it gave me the giggles. As long as you don't fit that stallion up with HID's, you're rocking on my roads.

Oh, btw, my best friend in school was German and she (SHE) had hair all down her back. She was great, her backhair was not.

hahah, nah i wont be fitting HIDs to my horse and cart :P

ew at the girl with back hair, i shouldnt judge though, i have the back hair of a gorilla.

EDIT: I did declare it peter dont worry :P

[Kiwistar]

The 17" steel rims are non standard too, but I wasn't gonna whistle blow

[haz_pro]

Damn, been court out, better declare them ASAP.

[tillygti6]

there not road legal unless oem supplied anyway.....
the old bill down this way are really hot on it now

[AXracing]

The requirement and limits for low beam where intruded so that cars where safe to use at normal road speeds with other road users about. However technology moves on rather quickly. Even halogen bulbs have got almost twice as bright as when the laws where introduced. Gas discharge lights have gotten even brighter still often achieving three times what was calculated as a safe level.

[chinkostu]

theres a few around here that have the daft bright blue ones that blind every bastard. i can just about cope with OEM HID's as half the time the only ones that give you aggro are on a van/4x4!

yes my lights are shite on dipped beam, but the spotlights on main beam are more than enough on back lanes

[RAFkev]

ditto :( not a good combo for someone that suffers from light induced migraines. Normal h/lights don't do that to me, but HID's bring on almost instant migraine

Do your insurance company/DVLA know you suffer from light induced migraines? I've heard of some people fainting from this. Should you be driving at night if this is the case!?

As said, most of the issues come from the lux 4x4's like X5 an Q7 and Wayne wovers! These are factory fitted and have gone through numerous tests to prove them safe.

[loudandproud205]

Drive an s1 106 then tell me old lights are ok, there fucking dire.

Mind any up to mid 90's were shit, once you have xenon lights anything else just seems poor.

My Laguna has Xenon HID's and like the first time I got a car with Aircon I would be hard pressed to buy another modern car with out them.

[AXracing]

Drive an s1 106 then tell me old lights are ok, there fucking dire.

I used to drive a old 106 and a AX never had a problem. I still have my old school 205 GTI now and never had a problem with the standard headlights. I had a old Mini up until a few years ago that had old hat incandescent bulbs. That was not great but still drivable. Better then the 1950s motorbike I was on a few days ago. But again still had no real problems until some one was driving strait at me with much brighter modern lights.

[DannyVTS]

HID'S in projector lights (such as angels and morrettes) = :y:

HID's in reflector lights (such as standard saxo lights) = :n:

[Elliott]

I kind of agree and disagree.

I hate it when it happeneds to me but then i like to be able to see the whole road and were im going. So when i get blinded im not fussed because i know people get blinded by my 8Ks on my astra.

I always get people flashing me though as if they think ive got full beams on

[stevie_t]

I'm peed off with these stupidly intense lights blinding me, to the point where I can't see cyclists/motorcyclists/pedestrians more than 10 feet in front of me, and the glare from behind is enough to set off a headache king kong would start ranting about.

If people truly need lights that bright, then I suggest they get themselves an eyesight test and a restricted licence from the DVLA because there is NO NEED for HID

Depends on the h.i.d.s cheap sets do give of glare the set i got in mine from hids4u.co.uk dont do that but they aint cheap. h.i.d.s are hear to stay get a set you will never go back to stock

[rich112]

Love my hids, such an improvement.

[RobVT]

when someones behind me with poorley alligned HID's i just press that tab on my rear veiw mirror and it stops blinding me :/

i tell you what i hate the most people with poorly alligned headlights full stop (usually vectra/octavia Taxis)

Also to the OP, if you can be blinded by HID's behind you ever though of getting an eye test done? not being harsh but if someone is BEHIND you with bright lights and you cant see in FRONT of you maybe you should stop looking BEHIND you and start noticing the road alot more thats in FRONT

LOL WOMAN DRIVER

[AXracing]

I don't think it is anything to do with his eyes. It really does depend on your vehicle and what is behind you. When I had a MR2 is was so low that cars behind you where a nightmare. Most people on the MR2 owners club recommend tinting the rear window for this very reason. Even then the side mirrors tend to pick up headlights My Citroen tends to do it with taller vehicles or if some one has there lights all to pot.

[Giraffe]

when someones behind me with poorley alligned HID's i just press that tab on my rear veiw mirror and it stops blinding me :/

i tell you what i hate the most people with poorly alligned headlights full stop (usually vectra/octavia Taxis)

Also to the OP, if you can be blinded by HID's behind you ever though of getting an eye test done? not being harsh but if someone is BEHIND you with bright lights and you cant see in FRONT of you maybe you should stop looking BEHIND you and start noticing the road alot more thats in FRONT

LOL WOMAN DRIVER

LOL.

It is annoying when it's constantly in your mirrors though, especially if you don't have a dimming thing. I just sit in a dif position so it's not in my eye line, but it annoys me.

[0rang3peel]

HID's should only be in in projectors.

Light scatter aside, HID's in reflector lamps are just wrong.

They scatter the beam and piss everyone off who gets dazzled by them. Hence the reason why they are illegal and are only used by morons with a 'I don't give a fuck' attitude.

[Moke]

Blah, blah, blah. HID's are great!

Someone remind me to buy some :oops:

[AXracing]

Blah, blah, blah. HID's are great!

Someone remind me to buy some :oops:

I will sell you some if you want :p

[lemon191]

i avoid back roads in the dark for this very reason and only use them when no other choice as ive seen these type of lights almost cause several accidents.
remember while you are blinding other drivers you are putting yourself at risk of the other driver hitting you head on and if your in a saxo i dont fancy your chances but hell atleast you can see the other person as they plow into you mangling your saxo up and most likly killing you
but i must admit i am quite partial to full beaming people who blind me

[W103_A5H]

+1

They improve safety because now I can actually see where i'm fucking going!

If you need HID's to see where you are going, i'd go get an eyetest mate :y:


As for HID's, i can't stand them myself. Yes they might be safer option because you can see better but while driving past cars going down a dark road it does blind you something stupid. I had an Audi sat behind me on the way home last week from college, i have to drive down the A339 which is a dark windy road. It was so bad the glare in my mirror i had to move it! And doesn't help when quite alot of newer cars now have HID's which mean they are quite common now so getting blinded from both directions is not nice!

Why do people feel the need for them? Seriously, if you can't see the road with normal headlight you shouldn't be driving IMO :y:

[lemon191]

If you need HID's to see where you are going, i'd go get an eyetest mate :y:


As for HID's, i can't stand them myself. Yes they might be safer option because you can see better but while driving past cars going down a dark road it does blind you something stupid. I had an Audi sat behind me on the way home last week from college, i have to drive down the A339 which is a dark windy road. It was so bad the glare in my mirror i had to move it!

Why do people feel the need for them? Seriously, if you can't see the road with normal headlight you shouldn't be driving IMO :y:

not much you can do about the audis etc since they come with them from factory, its the shitty ones that get put on saxos, corsas etc that need to be sorted first

[Tommo87]

HIDs are fine, if someone behind you has them press a button and fold your wing mirrors in.

[W103_A5H]

HIDs are fine, if someone behind you has them press a button and fold your wing mirrors in.

Not all cars have eletric mirrors, such as my saxo so imagine trying to move them while going down a dark windy road..yeh..i dont think so! And i was on about the rear view, not the side mirros :y:

[MiniGibbo]

Or flick the the little switch on the rear veiw which changes the angle stopping the glare..

The only people moaning in this thread about them are the people who dont have them and are bitter with theyre shit lights :homme:

[AXracing]

If you need HID's to see where you are going, i'd go get an eyetest mate :y:

Well said :y:

[W103_A5H]

Or flick the the little switch on the rear veiw which changes the angle stopping the glare..

The only people moaning in this thread about them are the people who dont have them and are bitter with theyre shit lights :homme:

No. No. No. The people moaning about them are the people that don't want to get blinded by other cars and to be able to concentrate on the road ahead without having to adjust all our mirrors or point of vision due to some lights that are just not needed. It only takes a second to crash if you take your eyes of the road. You might aswell shine a laser pen in my eye while im driving, that would be just as bad! I could quite easily afford to put some on my saxo, but what is the point of spending money when I can see perfectly fine with the lights i already have?

If standard lights are as shit as the people with HID's are making out, then i think you all need your eyes tested. And then please tell me why i haven't crashed in the dark yet?

OH wait..must be my superhuman night vision I have. I almost forgot about that :S

[Raz]

With all this fuss about HID's then...whats the best bulbs to get for a Saxo? I was debating getting HID's but have always been unsure on them...

[AL3X_]

HIDs are like daylight compared to halogens mate, go for them :) Maybe get some angels or morettes though to save you trouble :)

My car has projector headlights so mine don't seem to dazzle people, although if I get a saxo it will definately be something i'd think of adding.

[JRC1]

If you need HID's to see where you are going, i'd go get an eyetest mate :y:


As for HID's, i can't stand them myself. Yes they might be safer option because you can see better but while driving past cars going down a dark road it does blind you something stupid. I had an Audi sat behind me on the way home last week from college, i have to drive down the A339 which is a dark windy road. It was so bad the glare in my mirror i had to move it! And doesn't help when quite alot of newer cars now have HID's which mean they are quite common now so getting blinded from both directions is not nice!

Why do people feel the need for them? Seriously, if you can't see the road with normal headlight you shouldn't be driving IMO :y:

I was obviously slightly exaggerating when I said "with HID's I can now see where i'm going".. but the point I was getting at is that standard lights are absolutely awful. Makes me laugh when loads of people jump on the I HATE HID'S bandwagon.. If you don't like them, don't fit them.. Simple. There is always going to be people out there with HID's, there is always going to be people out there with new mercs/audi's with stupidly bright lights, there is always going to be range rovers out there that sit so high off the ground there lights shine directly through your car. At the end of the day mine were fitted correctly, they have been aligned properly so aren't aiming in the air and they have passed 2 legal MOT's :A:




The only people moaning in this thread about them are the people who dont have them and are bitter with theyre shit lights :homme:

Lol so true! They can stick to their yellow lights, i'll continue to use lights which actually improve my vision and don't blind others because they have been set up correctly

[Bound]

HID's are good when you're the only one with them :D.

[saxokid100]

Cant please everyone....lol..

[AXracing]

HID's are good when you're the only one with them :D.

Unfortunately this is really the selfish attitude of some when it come to the after market lights. They don't give a dam about the effect on other road users or there insurance. There are like the people that ruteanly speed, drink drive, drive with out insurance or drive with out a licence. The sooner the police catch them all the better.

[dougieph2]

Blah blah blah..


HID's are god sends on older cars :homme:

i dont have HID's but i agree, i sometimes have to drive about with my main beam on because my lights are pretty poor.. but then again, because iv got low seat rails in my car, i get blinded by any sort of oncoming lights :n:

[Giraffe]

It worries me that so many people are complaining about poor vision here like... I rarely use my full beams simply because I don't need to... You fuckers need to eat more carrots :D

[dougieph2]

20 year old bulbs arent cool

[Giraffe]

20 year old bulbs arent cool

Seem alright in my E30... I think... It's been a while since I've actually driven it!

[dougieph2]

mines arent the best tbh.. my main beam must be the same as a regular cars dipped beam

[Giraffe]

Guess it just goes to show German is better than Jap then eh... :A:

iJoke, I quite like your car

[dougieph2]

i quite like your white text ;)

[MiniGibbo]

Around town yer light sare ok but once you get to the pitch black back lanes 99% of people flick theyre main beams on to light the whole road up..

With HID's theyres no need, meaning you dont have to keep flicking them on and off :homme:

[wezzasaxo1]

hids not only help u see better they look the dogs bollucks!!!!!!!!!!

[baker556]

Everyone who is suggesting they can see the road fine and dont need to use there main beam with halogens on country roads are the ones that have there lights pointed up into the sky and blind oncoming drivers anyway.

If the Hids are set up correctly and aligned and dipped in most cases this can be much better than other cars with halogens that have the need to point them up to see how far they can shine.

[Giraffe]

Everyone who is suggesting they can see the road fine and dont need to use there main beam with halogens on country roads are the ones that have there lights pointed up into the sky and blind oncoming drivers anyway.

If the Hids are set up correctly and aligned and dipped in most cases this can be much better than other cars with halogens that have the need to point them up to see how far they can shine.

I really don't. I normally have them pointing downwards, always wary about how I have mine set up because I don't like being blinded myself. It's really not that difficult to see. The only thing that would catch me off guard would be an animal in the road I reckon.

[MiniGibbo]

I really don't. I normally have them pointing downwards, always wary about how I have mine set up because I don't like being blinded myself. It's really not that difficult to see. The only thing that would catch me off guard would be an animal in the road I reckon.

Hav eyou driven anything with the newer style headlights Dave?

[Giraffe]

Hav eyou driven anything with the newer style headlights Dave?

Erm, depends if an 04 vectra has newer style headlights? I don't much like newer cars so probably not! Can't see it making much difference if I can see fine with older headlights though :P

[MiniGibbo]

Old lights work its just the new ones are so much better..

Its not until you compare you see the difference, my van's what did it for me.

[Big-Ginge-69]

I'm peed off with these stupidly intense lights blinding me, to the point where I can't see cyclists/motorcyclists/pedestrians more than 10 feet in front of me, and the glare from behind is enough to set off a headache king kong would start ranting about.

If people truly need lights that bright, then I suggest they get themselves an eyesight test and a restricted licence from the DVLA because there is NO NEED for HID

thats just you being miserablecant wait to get some 8k i reckon

[devilsadvocate]

Yeah I don't like them either to be honest, I have a lazy eye which closes when bright lights hit it.

Normal headlights I can deal with but HID's just make my eye close and I struggle to see for the next few seconds so quite dangerous for me.

Nobody say 'you shouldnt be driving then', because my eyesight is perfectly legal to drive. I have one good eye and one which I struggle to see out of

[stevie_t]

i got a lazy jap eye pmsl sorry couldnt help saying that ha ha

[Giraffe]

Old lights work its just the new ones are so much better..

Its not until you compare you see the difference, my van's what did it for me.

I'm not debating the difference, I'm just saying I don't have a problem with the lights I have now, so see no reason to upgrade...

[badasssaxo]

Ban moaning

[mattygoulding]

stop moaning like a little girl hids are amazin

[Havark]

they just annoy me!

[23carragold]

............

[haz_pro]

Thanks for your bullshit input. One step closer to the for sale section.

He's posting 3 and 4 word replies everywhere. Twat lol.

[Havark]

He's posting 3 and 4 word replies everywhere. Twat lol.

Haha!!! i am bored and am almost able to change my Pic and add Sig :) thats all i want!

[MiniGibbo]

He's posting 3 and 4 word replies everywhere. Twat lol.

Isnt that what we all do?

[haz_pro]

Isnt that what we all do?

Not all the time no, well maybe you with your baiting ;)

[Giraffe]

Isnt that what we all do?

I certainly don't

[MiniGibbo]

I certainly don't

You more a three word man ;)

[wadoryu]

They don't if they are set up correctly like mine. It's the people that don't set them up right and have them aiming too high that causes issues! So in response to your thread, no HID's don't need to be banned if they are set up correctly.

tbf james yours are still very bright when you were behind me that time.

[MiniGibbo]

tbf james yours are still very bright when you were behind me that time.

:homme:

[Pau1os]

HIDs FTW!!

[Prickle]

HIDs FTW!!

yeah if the person coming the opposite way wants to crash. :homme:

get some yellow bulbs.

[Packham]

I still don't see the point in these, most of the time I'm driving on street lamp lit roads so don't really need headlights to see anything and on country lanes I can see fine with standard lights on full beam.

[Rogue_Shadow]

HIDs FTW!!

Only a few more posts to go right?

Bump!

[Prickle]

Only a few more posts to go right?

Bump!

why? hes premium lol :geek:

[Rogue_Shadow]

why? hes premium lol :geek:

Ohh yea :geek:

Wtf, why is he bumping / spamming 6 month old threads then?
Some sort of retard or ... I honestly don't know !

Edit: & joined well over a year ago WTF! :panic:

[Prickle]

Ohh yea :geek:

Wtf, why is he bumping / spamming 6 month old threads then?
Some sort of retard or ... I honestly don't know !

Edit: & joined well over a year ago WTF! :panic:

That i cant help you with. :hug:

[MiniGibbo]

My opinion still stands.

[0rang3peel]

hids on cars that shouldn't have hids is retarded.

decent bulbs & an uprated wiring loom is all you need & it means you can exist without being a total tosser

[Petee]

I have HID's no one i know complains about them they say they are very bright but not blinding.

Set up correcting they are fine

[Tommo87]

I've a spare HID kit at home but refuse to fit it despite the EG civics lights being about as much use as a tea light.

[Giraffe]

My original opinion also still stands. My eye sight is still as good as ever...

[Viper]

LED headlights ftw :D

Either that or strategically places Maglites...

[maddison_vts]

hids only look right if they're in projector head lamps imo. Standard headlights send them beam all over the place and dazzle everyone.

Its mainly the cheap pikey ebay kits that are blue that tend to be the culprits.

standard headlamps (like saxo's, 106's) it looks gash

projector lamps (like the clio 182 has as standard with hid) looks good.

[Cal]

Surely HID's on say a cammed Saxo VTS will be useless as these are generally faster than the speed of light?

[Petee]

Surely HID's on say a cammed Saxo VTS will be useless as these are generally faster than the speed of light?

You have to have Slim balast's, because fat ones are slow..

[MiniGibbo]

hids on cars that shouldn't have hids is retarded.

decent bulbs & an uprated wiring loom is all you need & it means you can exist without being a total tosser

Are you put out as your rusty heap has its original oil lamps :homme:

[0rang3peel]

Are you put out as your rusty heap has its original oil lamps :homme:

Why would I be put out?

It wouldn't make a difference even if I had a super cool faded bimma that could accomodate my brick like head, I wouldn't put shitty hids on a car that didn't come with hids :homme:

[rick_VTR]

HID's are actually ilegal, they can in most cases fail the MOT aswell because they dont give off a correct beam patern and the light is sort of more hazy and points in all directions, somebody posted a link up on here somewhere of a tv show investigating them. its because cars that dont have HID's from factory dont have headlights to take HID's thats how its dangerous to other road users the way it scatters the light and dazzles other drivers. its a FACT they are ILLEGAL on a car that doesnt have them from standard/optional extra. all the aftermarket kits are illegal.

[MiniGibbo]

HID's are actually ilegal, they can in most cases fail the MOT aswell because they dont give off a correct beam patern and the light is sort of more hazy and points in all directions, somebody posted a link up on here somewhere of a tv show investigating them. its because cars that dont have HID's from factory dont have headlights to take HID's thats how its dangerous to other road users the way it scatters the light and dazzles other drivers. its a FACT they are ILLEGAL on a car that doesnt have them from standard/optional extra. all the aftermarket kits are illegal.

Mine passed with HID's and that was a genuine tester in a genuine garage so that pisses on your fire eh :homme:

[RedB]

I like HID's and higher-end lights. Hear this complaint a lot but i'm for them.

[rick_VTR]

Mine passed with HID's and that was a genuine tester in a genuine garage so that pisses on your fire eh :homme:

i said MOST cases fails the mot. and if they werent illegal then why would there be a show about aftermarket HID kits being illegal and police saying they are illegal unless used with headlights that are made for HID's?

[rick_VTR]

YouTube - ‪Illegal HID Convesion Kits Explained‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw)

[vtrxstickens]

to the started of the thread!!!!

u kno that little thing that u clip in on ur windscreen mirror, USE IT :)
posting something like this is jus going to make it alot worse for you lol

[the_mighty_booosh]

Mine passed with HID's and that was a genuine tester in a genuine garage so that pisses on your fire eh :homme:

Our lasses passed on Saturday just gone with them on, after reading all this talk on Hid's, I was certain they would be on the fail sheet, but nothing

[MiniGibbo]

Our lasses passed on Saturday just gone with them on, after reading all this talk on Hid's, I was certain they would be on the fail sheet, but nothing

In short it's what is known as "media hype bullshit" I just watched that video and the mush says they paid £300 for a pair of hid's :homme:

[chinkostu]

to the started of the thread!!!!

u kno that little thing that u clip in on ur windscreen mirror, USE IT :)
posting something like this is jus going to make it alot worse for you lol

why should i have to do that just because some nobhead cant be arsed adjusting his lights?

99% of hid equipped cars around here are poorly adjusted, so they just dazzle everyone. coppers seem to be cracking down

[rick_VTR]

theres no need for HID's on a saxo anyway, i can see fine with normal headlights with a set of ebay special blue xenon bulbs. 12 quid for headlights sides and fogs, and my eye sight isnt the best.

[04gallsopp]

ive just bought a conversion kit to take my classic mini halogen lights to HIDs they are so much better.

[GolfJay]

I agree with the OP. HID's should only be used with proper beam projecting headlights. The amount of times I've been blinded by a Astra or something just because of their HID's.

Leave the super bright lights to the cars they're intended for. Can't see with your normal lights? Get your fucking eyes tested!

[rick_VTR]

I agree with the OP. HID's should only be used with proper beam projecting headlights. The amount of times I've been blinded by a Astra or something just because of their HID's.

Leave the super bright lights to the cars they're intended for. Can't see with your normal lights? Get your fucking eyes tested!

+ fucking 1

[Prickle]

+ fucking 1

rick cant stress that enough!!!!

[chinkostu]

Leave the super bright lights to the cars they're intended for. Can't see with your normal lights? Get your fucking eyes tested!

+1

i don't need to see the pile of deer crap on the side of the road in perfect light ;)

[Peter_D]

You all need to buy a decent car that has HIDs standard

[Ashleyp]

I always thought the problem wasn't actually HID's, but the way theyre set up? ie, poorly adjusted and just pointing in everyones eyes.

[K17NEY]

You all need to buy a decent car that has HIDs standard

I'm surprised your head fitted In this thread tbh.

[chinkostu]

I always thought the problem wasn't actually HID's, but the way theyre set up? ie, poorly adjusted and just pointing in everyones eyes.

definately

You all need to buy a decent car that has HIDs standard

perfectly reasonable. no reason that they would make them horrible and dazzle everyone

[rick_VTR]

yes it is the way that they are set up thats bad, a headlight that comes from factory with non HID is not built to take a HID conversion kit, hense why they have been made illegal. they are dangerous to other road users in the way that the light is dispersed through standar headlights. end of.

[vtrxstickens]

why should i have to do that just because some nobhead cant be arsed adjusting his lights?

99% of hid equipped cars around here are poorly adjusted, so they just dazzle everyone. coppers seem to be cracking down

no i fully agree you shouldnt have to but its not difficult to and im sure it aint every 5 minutes someones behind you with a hid kit.

ive adjusted my lights so they dont blind other drivers :)

[Gandi699]

Sorry I dont get this - I can comfortably look at my clios HIDs no problem they arent blinding

[Prickle]

Sorry I dont get this - I can comfortably look at my clios HIDs no problem they arent blinding

what k are they? as some ive seen recently are way OTT.

[0rang3peel]

You all need to buy a decent car that has HIDs standard

So..... a new car then? assuming all old cars are crap

[Chr15]

I always thought the problem wasn't actually HID's, but the way theyre set up? ie, poorly adjusted and just pointing in everyones eyes.

Yes and no. Was blinded by an Audi Q7 with HIDS, they didnt even have full beam on either :S

[Ashleyp]

Yes and no. Was blinded by an Audi Q7 with HIDS, they didnt even have full beam on either :S

That doesn't mean that HIDs are the problem though.

As per my previous post, "I thought it was the way they are set up"

This saying would still ring true here, you can adjust the headlights in the car as I'm sure everyone well knows.

[Nik_L]

H.I.D's in non projector headlights are the problem.

Even when set-up for MOT standards on a beam setter,the light is still scattered all over the place.

Workmate has them in his Bora.The light output shines all over the road.I swear ive seen owls drop from the trees.

Big 4x4's with HID's are quite annoying due to the light unit being higher up than a cars.

[MiniGibbo]

My vans amazing where the headlights are quite high i don't need to flash inferior vehicles to move over just roll up behind them and it blares down into their reveiw anyway :A:

[GolfJay]

The problem is that the bright output kind of over powers the light pattern on the lens . Causes the light to spread everywhere.

[VTHall]

ban loud exhausts aswell as i cant hear my music over them :homme:

[Jazz]

My old Accord came with factory HID's and they were superb, with the S14a I've just fitted whiter, brighter bulbs.

HID lights aren't too much of a problem provided they aren't too bright and as mentioned they must be set up and adjusted properly.

[Rudpud]

ban loud exhausts aswell as i cant hear my music over them :homme:

Gayest thing ive ever read. Turn your music up.

[VTHall]

Gayest thing ive ever read. Turn your music up.

it was total sarcasm :homme: facepalm.

[Jazz]

ban loud exhausts aswell as i cant hear my music over them :homme:

Seriously?

Nothing like the deep rumble of a full stainless decat system to wake the neighbours each morning.

I'm still waiting for mine to complain, only a matter of time lol..

*Facepalm for me too* :P

[Reggae_Dub]

It's the height of the lights too..

I've had it a few times in my van coming up behind people they think I'm flashing them, I'm not it's just my lights are the same height As they're rear view mirror.

When I was learning to drive I was waiting to turn right, and a van came towards the junction over a hill... thought he was flashing me so pulled out lol :panic: