Bye bye dodgy mot

[Tontsy]

Vosa has recently sent letters out, (if you are a tester and yet to recieve, wait for it. Tis a good'en)

Saying, they are basically thinking about puttings cameras in all testing bays.

And changing it for an mot every two years, rather than one!

I cant see either happening... But the idea is being tossed around.

Tlk.

[Kyza]

How much will this cost to make happen? How are they going to monitor all the camera's and every single MOT that happens each day?

[0rang3peel]

I would love it, MOT every two years is wicked! I can't stand the bastard things

[Kyza]

An MOT every 2 years sound more likely to happen, although this will probably be for cars under a certain age?

[MiniGibbo]

New year same shit being spun..

[Tontsy]

How much will this cost to make happen? How are they going to monitor all the camera's and every single MOT that happens each day?

You are monitered on how many mots you do, over a period of time, this is split into pass or fails.

They say you should have a certain percentage for each one, with x ammount of leway.
If you start to pass too many they can look into it...same if you fail.
If you was to pass a 20 year old typical rust bucket like a metro, on nothing. Its abit suspicious

Aslong as we, as testers are doing our jobs correctly, therre is nothing to worry about.
There are always ways around things...

Dodgy mots are gash anyway, if vosa stop you, they can go and get the tester out of bed to re test the car infront of them if they want to!...ass bandits.

[devilsadvocate]

Hmmmm can't see either of those happening to be fair.

The money involved in putting cameras in all MOT stations would outweigh the benefit by a long way
Also, how would they be able to see the cameras?
It couldnt be live because they would need internet access etc and thats more money
I suppose they could record onto something, but who will collect them up and play them back? More expense

Unsure on the MOT every two years, I do hate them (mainly because I own a french shitbox) but a lot of cars which are 7+ years old generally fail on something and thats yearly

[Furio-Gazza]

New year same shit being spun..

Yeah i think its all bollox but in spain they have a system like that, every 2/3 years and if it fails you have 2 weeks to get it fixed or the car gets crushed saink like that anyways aha .... cant really remember much on how it goes

[Tontsy]

Yeah i think its all bollox but in spain they have a system like that, every 2/3 years and if it fails you have 2 weeks to get it fixed or the car gets crushed saink like that anyways aha .... cant really remember much on how it goes

Yeah some places already have the every two year, in force!
Imo, its dangerous.

[Kyza]

You are monitered on how many mots you do, over a period of time, this is split into pass or fails.

They say you should have a certain percentage for each one, with x ammount of leway.
If you start to pass too many they can look into it...same if you fail.
If you was to pass a 20 year old typical rust bucket like a metro, on nothing. Its abit suspicious

Aslong as we, as testers are doing our jobs correctly, therre is nothing to worry about.
There are always ways around things...

Dodgy mots are gash anyway, if vosa stop you, they can go and get the tester out of bed to re test the car infront of them if they want to!...ass bandits.

So basically its for MOT testers and Stations that just do dodgy MOTs regulary and openly offer it as a service through word of mouth.

If you actually know the tester and he does a genuine MOT apart from emissions then you should be fine?

[LeeM]

i personally think 2 years is too long. i dont think a new car should be able to go 3 years without one either. tyres brakes and suspension can all be in a bad way within 12-18 months if a car is used enough, and plenty of people dont check their own car

[blackie_2k5]

Yeah some places already have the every two year, in force!
Imo, its dangerous.


agree, but tbh its less dangerous then the amount of traders there are now with a friendly tester:n:

[Kyza]

Yeah i think its all bollox but in spain they have a system like that, every 2/3 years and if it fails you have 2 weeks to get it fixed or the car gets crushed saink like that anyways aha .... cant really remember much on how it goes

In Spain they have ITV's which are the equivilant to an English MOT.

Until the car is 4 years old you dont need an ITV
Between Four to ten years - you have a test every two years
Over ten years old - and its every year like in Britain

[Tontsy]

So basically its for MOT testers and Stations that just do dodgy MOTs regulary and openly offer it as a service through word of mouth.

If you actually know the tester and he does a genuine MOT apart from emissions then you should be fine?

Before i was in the trade, i used to text a guy a reg...and later that day id go collect the certificates.
He had no idea if the car was in any fit state.

I will, test another car on emssions, or turn a blind eye to minor things.

I dont know how they will manage it, or use it in their advantages.

How do they expect to see what you are doing anyway, unless they are using like 20 cameras in the bay! Inside cars, outside cars, under the car, ect ect.

[Furio-Gazza]

agree, but tbh its less dangerous then the amount of traders there are now with a friendly tester:n:

yup i know a lad not far from me will pass cars for £80, you cant drive them for 2 weeks after he signs the paper work and he doesnt even look at the car

[Azza-VTR]

I agree with the above about new cars being three years as a lot of our vehicles have in excess of 120,000miles when there do the 1st MOT but hey I'm not complaining :p

As for MOT's every 2 years that would be great but they would need to bring a system in where if a car does in excess of so many miles or above the age of 10 should be MOT'd once a year

But we'll see :)

[Kyza]

Before i was in the trade, i used to text a guy a reg...and later that day id go collect the certificates.
He had no idea if the car was in any fit state.

I will, test another car on emssions, or turn a blind eye to minor things.

I dont know how they will manage it, or use it in their advantages.

How do they expect to see what you are doing anyway, unless they are using like 20 cameras in the bay! Inside cars, outside cars, under the car, ect ect.

Have to admit I did have a dodgy MOT once, although I did get everything sorted and the car was thoroughly checked for problems. Not that this justifys it lol

As long as the car is structurally sound and safe to be on the road im happy.

[Tontsy]

They are only vaild for the hour they are in the garage anyway.

The second it leaves the garage, the mot is void. It means nothing.
I had my saxo mot'd passed fine...i took the springs out and put it on bumpstops all round withing 15 minutes after.

[blackie_2k5]

yup i know a lad not far from me will pass cars for £80, you cant drive them for 2 weeks after he signs the paper work and he doesnt even look at the car

everyones a trader round my way these days, see cars up for pennies with not t&t or just no test and the next day the same cars back up for its value with full tax and ticket, and theyre all little pikey clampits, dodgey testers make a fortun,traders make a fortune

[citroen_saxo_vtr]

no chance, it would cost them too much for the cameras plus having an mot done every 2 years so they would loose money and alot deteriate in a year let alone 2 years!!

[0rang3peel]

While we are on the MOT vibe & tonto is present.

Are there any emissions regs for an 85 golf, A reg?

[Bodvts]

my saxo was never tested right they had to use another car for emmissions test because they couldnt be bothered butting cat back in was always in boot when it went for test

[Kyza]

While we are on the MOT vibe & tonto is present.

Are there any emissions regs for an 85 golf, A reg?

Isnt it a certain date in 1992 when the cars came with Cats and tested for emissions?

[stevo67]

Yeah some places already have the every two year, in force!
Imo, its dangerous.

So you get an advisory listed on your mot test,you leave it for 2 years your car potentially becomes a death trap. :fcuk::wall:


Steve.:drink:

[0rang3peel]

Isnt it a certain date in 1992 when the cars came with Cats and tested for emissions?

Yeah I'm not sure it hasn't been through an MOT yet & the emissions smell dreadful, worse than my vts which is decatted lol.

[Prickle]

2 years suit me...........

[Tontsy]

While we are on the MOT vibe & tonto is present.

Are there any emissions regs for an 85 golf, A reg?

Isnt it a certain date in 1992 when the cars came with Cats and tested for emissions?

The computer tells you everything you need to know, but like you said, a certain date where cat and no cat crosses over. The cat started in early 80s but was never enforced till the 90s

Anything before this date, doesnt have to pass the emission limits like a car with a cat. Still needs to have limits though.
So the pre-cat test is somethng like 3.5% co.
Post cat is Around 1!

0 road fund cars, are like less half a percent!

Running rich or lean will efct this.
Poor fuel can effect it
Etc etc.

[-shuggles-]

I would love the 2 year mot system only because if something is faulty I would replace it but it other road users cars I would be worried about being un fit for the road

[0rang3peel]

The computer tells you everything you need to know, but like you said, a certain date where cat and no cat crosses over. The cat started in early 80s but was never enforced till the 90s

Anything before this date, doesnt have to pass the emission limits like a car with a cat. Still needs to have limits though.
So the pre-cat test is somethng like 3.5% co.
Post cat is Around 1!

0 road fund cars, are like less half a percent!

Running rich or lean will efct this.
Poor fuel can effect it
Etc etc.

Cheers, so hopefully even though its poor it should still pass.

fingers crossed, I'm fairly sure the last MOT on it was dodgy.

[Tontsy]

Yeah I'm not sure it hasn't been through an MOT yet & the emissions smell dreadful, worse than my vts which is decatted lol.

If thats the case, give it a good drive, make sure its not smokingthe shit out of the garage.
And tbf, should be alright. There is an option to skip it lol.

But this 3% is loads! I dont think ive ever seen anything fail it!


Another way around it, is fit an old engine.
It then gets tested on the rules for what ever is older.

2000 car with an 91 engine, means no cat needed.

[Morgzc]

Just pay them outside or before hand.

[Kyza]

Just pay them outside or before hand.

I dont think VOSA are intending to install camera's to check the tester is getting paid from the customer..

[loudandproud205]

There will always be loop holes.

Remember everyone said the computerised set up used now would never happen due to costs but it has

[TomT]

like you said would cost a lot and would need a lot of cameras, probably just sent the letter out to scare dodgy testers a little bit.

[CHIP]

Tbf, my tester will test my car but always pass it (so long as it's nothing something downright dangerous).

For example, he should have failed the Clio on an exhaust mount being fucked as the exhaust is technically not supported properly or something and just left hanging.

But he just said, Chip, sort that mount... 2 day's later i'd done it :y:

[b0t13]

Tbf, my tester will test my car but always pass it (so long as it's nothing something downright dangerous).

For example, he should have failed the Clio on an exhaust mount being fucked as the exhaust is technically not supported properly or something and just left hanging.

But he just said, Chip, sort that mount... 2 day's later i'd done it :y:

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[Lewis]

Sounds far too much hassle for such a pathetic thing. Cant see his happening

[Bound]

Can't see them putting cameras in every garage, and every garage documenting every car with photographic evidence.

[jw1325]

Dodgy MOTs for the win! Absolute godsend when your ticket runs out on the 31st of December each year and have no money to fix things till January... My mot man knows this and is quite happy with it!