Phase 1 or Phase 2

[nellychat]

Hi all, will be lookind to get a vtr or vts in the next few months, and have much enjoyed reading the threads as to which is better. My question though, is which is better the phase 1, or phase 2? I have read some reviews that say the phase 1 was built better, but I can't find anything on this site about it. What are your thoughts?

[Quick]

2 is newer, post 01 ( Y ) R pays less tax and has more power than earlier ones.
1 has the same car tax as it goes on cc

Its a matter of personal opinion & the condition of the car.

[tweedie]

I personally prefer MK2

[UKtom]

based on looks, mk2 ftw :y: you can pick a mk2 vtr/vts up pretty cheap these days aswell, just have a look around and wait for the right one - don't rush into it! :)

[Pompeylil]

i've got mk1 but would like to upgrade to mk2 oneday as I prefer the front on them and they're younger, but depends on condition of said car..

[bobbyd]

i prefer the mk2 but im biased because ive got one, both can look equally good depends on what your after. be your car at the end of the day but why not have a scan at both and then decided other than go off reviews and stuff?!

[nicole_]

only ever had mk1's
mk2s look too much like women/granny cars

[seanvts88]

Im facing this aswell with the vts, i can handle the old headlights think there pritty naughty but i dont like the dials (blue and old). But the new ones more power???? thought it was the other way round can anyone clear this up cause i was about to hit the buy button on a mk1 and less power does not sound good lol(i know it wont be much but every little rampant french pony counts)

[UKtom]

only ever had mk1's
mk2s look too much like women/granny cars

let the banter begin... :homme:

[kristel10589]

If you get a vts then mk1 unless you want to pay £260 a year road tax for a mk2 lol

[Furio-Gazza]

Ive had a MK1 & im on a MK2 atm, and i had non stop problems with my Phase 1 Saxo, & no problems as of yet with the MK2 :y:

[bobbyd]

only ever had mk1's
mk2s look too much like women/granny cars

how you work this one out?

[nicole_]

Im facing this aswell with the vts, i can handle the old headlights think there pritty naughty but i dont like the dials (blue and old). But the new ones more power???? thought it was the other way round can anyone clear this up cause i was about to hit the buy button on a mk1 and less power does not sound good lol(i know it wont be much but every little rampant french pony counts)

no difference between the mk1 and mk2 vts, its only the vtr that had a engine change. and you can change the ugly blue dials quite easily :y:

[seanvts88]

lol no problems as of YET my mk 2 was a minefield

[nicole_]

how you work this one out?

because theyre curvy and girlie looking? lol

[seanvts88]

nice man cheers, but with the dials is it a full unit upgrade like mk 2 to replace? what route would you take?

[Furio-Gazza]

lol no problems as of YET my mk 2 was a minefield

Depends how you look after them mate, and if you non stop hammer it everywhere :homme:

[seanvts88]

lol i looked after it very well thank you had a major starting issue. its look of the draw if you get a little bitch or not. dosent always mean youve abused it.

[bobbyd]

lol i looked after it very well thank you had a major starting issue. its look of the draw if you get a little bitch or not. dosent always mean youve abused it.

i think all the cars ive had had issues when i bought them, i put them right and looked after them. agree with what your saying mate.

[Furio-Gazza]

kinda agree with you, my mk1 saxo had non stop problems, everyweek something went wrong with it, but theres a few young lads n girls who rag there cars everywhere then wonder why its broken lol :p

[bobbyd]

kinda agree with you, my mk1 saxo had non stop problems, everyweek something went wrong with it, but theres a few young lads n girls who rag there cars everywhere then wonder why its broken lol :p

the 2nd car i bought was owned by a mechanic, but because he knew how to cut all the corners when i took it for the mot, 2 sheets of failures, paid to get it all sorted because i didnt know anything about cars then and it ended up being a peach.

[Nik_L]

Mk1 looks dated these days with the 2 piece headlight/indicator unit.

Mk2 looks alot better.

[Furio-Gazza]

i dunno why people would cut corners with cars, if you dont fix it right the 1st time it will break again soon,
but at least you got it fixed :)

[seanvts88]

lol :) im stuck between the two of them, My mk 2 vts has put me of a little, was pulling my hair out with it but when it worked it was a dream. And now i like the look of the mk1 apart from dials and there a perfect one near me but i dont know if i should take the plunge again or not.

[Sparky26]

Phase 2 = WIN

[mtpagey]

Have one of each :P That solved my dilema

[tally2425]

Phase 2 is my winner think the Phase 1 looks old and out dated

[rorz_vts]

Mk1 looks dated these days with the 2 piece headlight/indicator unit.

Mk2 looks alot better.
you can get complete units so they're not in 2 bits,

lol :) im stuck between the two of them, My mk 2 vts has put me of a little, was pulling my hair out with it but when it worked it was a dream. And now i like the look of the mk1 apart from dials and there a perfect one near me but i dont know if i should take the plunge again or not.

ive had both mk2 vts first as i did like the looks and curviness of it but had a massive headache of problems with it and a really bad case of rust, mk1's i find look alot more agressive and the sytle has grown on me alot since being a member on here and getting into my saxos,

the dails are a 20minute job to upgrade to some plasma jobbies that look 10 times better imo

[BertieG]

If you get a vts then mk1 unless you want to pay £260 a year road tax for a mk2 lol

i have a mk2 and only pay £205 a year :wacko:

[Rodney]

I had a MK2 but loved the look of a MK1 so I swapped ends over.lol

[xSaxoPete]

The MK2 looks better at the front.

[kristel10589]

i have a mk2 and only pay £205 a year :wacko:

If it'a a prefix plate (old style) then it'll be £205. Most mk2's are new style plates which is soon to be £260 a year road tax.

[Jay_]

mk1 is for manly track slags and is dead aggressive. mk2s are curvey and girly and euro-y style... depends what you want. I love mk1s

[Sean_VTR]

I've got a MK1 and had no problems with it, touch wood! Just look around to see what good deal you can find :y:

[Morgzc]

Had both. My mk1 seemed faster, but that was probably because it only had 2 seats and a dashboard inside.

[Ryan]

mk1 saxo = vauxhall nova.

Look pikey and dated.

[Leonzee]

Had my phase 2 for nealy 2 years now and not a single thing has gone wrong with it, just needed a new exhaust due to wear and tear and thats it.

[MikeYost]

mk2 for me :y:

[Newtz07]

Im facing this aswell with the vts, i can handle the old headlights think there pritty naughty but i dont like the dials (blue and old). But the new ones more power???? thought it was the other way round can anyone clear this up cause i was about to hit the buy button on a mk1 and less power does not sound good lol(i know it wont be much but every little rampant french pony counts)

MK2 VTR has close to 100 bhp, MK1 has just over 90 iirc.

not noticable in normal conditions.

plus i got white dials that light up orange

WINNING

also, the MK1 looks more of lads car, where as the MK2 looks a little girly at the front unless it has a dimma grill and blacked out lights. imo.

but either are good cars, and you will have oodles of fun in either mate. so which ever you find that seems the better deal.

if you find a nice low mileage mk1, dont veto it for a MK2 thats not in as good condition.

after all, there the same car.

[Newtz07]

mk1 saxo = vauxhall nova.

Look pikey and dated.

:n: wow, MK1 FTW

[Rodney]

Haha I say MK1 :y:

Just looks better IMO

[CitroenSport]

i love the look of both :) mk1= angry looking and old skool look mk2= smoother look and more modern but i prefer the newer 01+ saxos for age and look more modern.

[Sean_VTR]

mk1 saxo = vauxhall nova.

Look pikey and dated.

Hardly dated lmao. :n:

[Ryan]

Hardly dated lmao. :n:

a 15 year old front end?

lol.

[tomsmarty]

a 15 year old front end?

lol.

Nothing wrong with that, i prefer the mk1 tbh probably as i have one. But would still have a mk2 :)

[Jay_]

a 15 year old front end?

lol.

steady...lets not bring 15 year old front parts into this..

[Ryan]

steady...lets not bring 15 year old front parts into this..

wheres peter when you need him :D

[Leonzee]

Lets be honest people only have a Mk1 because they are poor. Unless they have a VTS Mk1, then they are dodging tax.

[Mr_X]

The mark one just looks so old, the headlights and grill remind me of the very old Ibiza.

Quite like the mark two myself.

[Sean_VTR]

a 15 year old front end?

lol.

There's nothing wrong with it.

[Ryan]

There's nothing wrong with it.

Its dated and looks like a nova. Some cars date well the saxo isnt one of them. Hardly surprising really when it was a quick hash together of the ax.

[Sean_VTR]

Its dated and looks like a nova. Some cars date well the saxo isnt one of them. Hardly surprising really when it was a quick hash together of the ax.

Ok that's your opinion, just the same as I have mine. :y:

[logic_guy]

Mk1 i think.

A black OR white Mk1, slammed on grey wheels, looks a BEAST!

As mentioned, the 2 part headlight and indicator set up on the Mk1 lets it down.

[nellychat]

Wow, I never thought I would get such a response. It seems to me from what everyone is saying that it really comes down to personal opinion, and that you get good and bad mk1 and mk2's. I think I will keep my eyes open for the best can find whether mk1 or mk2.

[Gazer]

hmmm mk1 ones for me :)

whats the tax on a mk1 vtr at this year?

[Nik_L]

MK2 VTR has close to 100 bhp, MK1 has just over 90 iirc.

not noticable in normal conditions.

plus i got white dials that light up orange

WINNING

also, the MK1 looks more of lads car, where as the MK2 looks a little girly at the front unless it has a dimma grill and blacked out lights. imo.

but either are good cars, and you will have oodles of fun in either mate. so which ever you find that seems the better deal.

if you find a nice low mileage mk1, dont veto it for a MK2 thats not in as good condition.

after all, there the same car.

Mk2 also came with the 90bhp engine.post 2001 cars iirc had the 100bhp engine.

[Nik_L]

you can get complete units so they're not in 2 bits,


That still look like normal headlights??Or are they angel eyes??

[MiniGibbo]

Mk1 for men
Mk2 for girls and shirtlifters..

[0rang3peel]

Mk1 for men
Mk2 for girls and shirtlifters..

I think you just like dated/faded looking vehicles :oops:

[MiniGibbo]

I think you just like dated/faded looking vehicles :oops:

I think you should go to specsavers :A:

[Ryan]

Mk2 also came with the 90bhp engine.post 2001 cars iirc had the 100bhp engine.

None were 100 bhp, 98.

Mk1 for men
Mk2 for girls and shirtlifters..

What about mk2s with more power than your banana :zainy:

[tom_lloyd_4]

Lets be honest people only have a Mk1 because they are poor. Unless they have a VTS Mk1, then they are dodging tax.
lol at this when i got mine looked at loads of mk2s round the £3/400 mark and they were ok then desided i wanted a mk1 and the cheapist one i could find was 650 and had no real probs with it how i see it is mk1 is pepole who seek power eg simo sexoturbs mk2 seem to be more showy but not in a bad way i love the aggressive look of mk1 aney way theres my bit :drink: