Do You Think My Mum Means It?? [Archive] - Saxperience

smiith

31st March 2011, 00:05

saxwesty

31st March 2011, 00:06

tbh mate take it home she wont kick you out your her son/daughter

DanielT92

31st March 2011, 00:06

Ok, that is one cute pup. But think of the bastard it will be when it's older lol.

saxo_singh

31st March 2011, 00:08

My mum said the same, so went out got a kitten of my mate, was 3 weeks old (i know har har har kitten lol but things are better then dogs :homme: )
anyways my mum said same as your's, after few days, was like another member of the family and now 1 year down the line, my mum loves the little furball lol

Prickle

31st March 2011, 00:09

Just take it home, look at it. :p

dougieph2

31st March 2011, 00:15

take it home.. at least if you get thrown out, you'll still have your wee pup as a friend ;)

smiith

31st March 2011, 00:19

Ok, that is one cute pup. But think of the bastard it will be when it's older lol.

Rottweilers are like one of the top dogs kenal klub reccomends for familys... and its why film directors use them, most obedient dog there is..

I doubt she would kick me out.. I mean we have plenty of room in the garden, im a joiner, so it wouldnt take long to knock it up a run and an outdoor kenel for when im out, so it doesnt shit on the kitchen floor.. Not like the house is too small for it either..

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 00:26

smiith

31st March 2011, 00:31

we breed rottweilers mate so if you every need any advice or anything drop me a pm.

been breeding for over 25 years now so can answer any questions if you need to know anything or theres something you're not sure of.

but yeah, take it home!

What kinda weekly costs am i looking at for feeding one?

My ex had a staffy, and i know that could put a fair bit of food away...

Also.. Do you think it would be okay, Our house kind of has an inset bit, where theres an extention on 1 bit, kinda making the house L shape, but then theres a neighbours house, so theres a square between them with a little coal shed on.. If i knocked that down, made a brick or wood kenel, then put a fence and a gate across, so he had a run when he was abit bigger... Just so he can poo outside if i cant take him to work one day..
It would be fine in this kinda thing wouldnt it?

lemon191

31st March 2011, 00:36

its her house and if she doesnt want any pets you should respect that, however i dout she would kick you out but she could quite easily give the dog away which would be unfair on the pup.

but since its free take it and sell it on for a profit lol

Vtr_Cam

31st March 2011, 00:38

Best case scenario - you get the dog you always wanted.
Worst case scenario - take it back to your mate.
I would risk it. Only one way to find out.

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 00:39

What kinda weekly costs am i looking at for feeding one?

My ex had a staffy, and i know that could put a fair bit of food away...

Also.. Do you think it would be okay, Our house kind of has an inset bit, where theres an extention on 1 bit, kinda making the house L shape, but then theres a neighbours house, so theres a square between them with a little coal shed on.. If i knocked that down, made a brick or wood kenel, then put a fence and a gate across, so he had a run when he was abit bigger... Just so he can poo outside if i cant take him to work one day..
It would be fine in this kinda thing wouldnt it?

while the pup is young and still growing, it needs as much protein as possible. so scrambled egg, tuna, chicken etc...

at the age the pup is at it will need 3 meals a day so scrambled egg in the morning, biscuits with either tuna eggs or anythin like that in the afternoon and same again at night ( anything full of protein basically).

it wont cost you much at all. the main thing the dog will need is time to be spent with it.

aslong as its dry and theres no damp it would be fine. although he would need a run big enough for him to stretch his body and have a little walk around ( when hes fully grown ). also always make sure he has fresh water every time you feed him.

never take him for a walk atleast an hour before or after feeding him, if you did it could cause the dog an early death.

if you was to have your dinner and youve got some left over...give it the dog, it wont hurt it in any way but dont go out of your way to make sure the dog has some. if theres non left then tough.

also be very careful of who you let know the dogs name because people will steal him believe it or not. use a distinctive name that you wouldnt usually call a dog, and never ever leave him tied up outside of a shop or anything because he'll be gone when you come out.

sorry for the essay just trying to be helpful lol

smiith

31st March 2011, 00:46

while the pup is young and still growing, it needs as much protein as possible. so scrambled egg, tuna, chicken etc...

at the age the pup is at it will need 3 meals a day so scrambled egg in the morning, biscuits with either tuna eggs or anythin like that in the afternoon and same again at night ( anything full of protein basically).

it wont cost you much at all. the main thing the dog will need is time to be spent with it.

aslong as its dry and theres no damp it would be fine. although he would need a run big enough for him to stretch his body and have a little walk around ( when hes fully grown ). also always make sure he has fresh water every time you feed him.

never take him for a walk atleast an hour before or after feeding him, if you did it could cause the dog an early death.

if you was to have your dinner and youve got some left over...give it the dog, it wont hurt it in any way but dont go out of your way to make sure the dog has some. if theres non left then tough.

also be very careful of who you let know the dogs name because people will steal him believe it or not. use a distinctive name that you wouldnt usually call a dog, and never ever leave him tied up outside of a shop or anything because he'll be gone when you come out.

sorry for the essay just trying to be helpful lol

The more i know the better tbh..

So the walking thing.. do you mean after a walk... Leave it a while before i feed him? Or dont feed him, then take him straight on a walk??

Plenty of country side close by, and a 5 mile stretch of beach for me to talk him on walks on.. So he wouldnt be short of a good long walk at least 6 days a week anyway..

The kenel would be off the floor, id also put some kingspan in to keep some heat in, and its all waterproof aswell, plus abit of bedding.. I could make it so he sleeps at one side, and walks in from another, so theres a few meters of dryness before his actual bed..

What about when he is grown for food? Stuff like meat, with biscuits and stuff? any particular dog food that would be better?

When we had a boarder collie, my mum would feed her biscuits, and pedagree chum meat and jelly all mixed together..

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 00:53

The more i know the better tbh..

So the walking thing.. do you mean after a walk... Leave it a while before i feed him? Or dont feed him, then take him straight on a walk??

Plenty of country side close by, and a 5 mile stretch of beach for me to talk him on walks on.. So he wouldnt be short of a good long walk at least 6 days a week anyway..

The kenel would be off the floor, id also put some kingspan in to keep some heat in, and its all waterproof aswell, plus abit of bedding.. I could make it so he sleeps at one side, and walks in from another, so theres a few meters of dryness before his actual bed..

What about when he is grown for food? Stuff like meat, with biscuits and stuff? any particular dog food that would be better?

When we had a boarder collie, my mum would feed her biscuits, and pedagree chum meat and jelly all mixed together..

if you take him out around when hes due a feed, leave it atleast an hour before you feed him.

or if you have just fed him leave it atleast an hour before he goes for a walk.

while hes a pup use " beta pup ". go to pets at home and pick up a big bag.

aslo with his bed, dont buy him a small bed, buy the biggest one you can because believe me in 6months time he'll fill it and you'd be spending a fortune on beds.

when hes older, like i said any left overs he can have or as you said biscuits and tinned food is fine.

we feed our dogs fresh meat like tripe etc but thats because we have so many and its better for building them up.

this may sound stupid but if you dont do this the dog will rule you...when you give him his dinner, as hes half way through it take the dish off him and make him wait a little while for it. its not crule its just to let the dog know that you're the dominant one

they're big powerfull dogs, enough pressure in the jaw to break an arm with 1 bite so you have make sure you're dominant otherwise he will play on it.

DanielT92

31st March 2011, 00:54

Rottweilers are like one of the top dogs kenal klub reccomends for familys... and its why film directors use them, most obedient dog there is..

This I did not know. Guess it's what your taught as a kid, I was always told they were fuckers. Probably the reason why my family has a Chocolate Lab, such a soppy dog lol.

Aly

31st March 2011, 00:56

Rottweilers are like one of the top dogs kenal klub reccomends for familys... and its why film directors use them, most obedient dog there is..

I got to agree, Tara (saxo_shortie) on here has one and it's really obedient, when he tries to bark she tells him to shh and he's quiet. They are huge dogs though and not my cup of tea.

I'm more of a Border Colley/Labrador type of person.

Love German Sheperds too.

smiith

31st March 2011, 00:59

if you take him out around when hes due a feed, leave it atleast an hour before you feed him.

or if you have just fed him leave it atleast an hour before he goes for a walk.

while hes a pup use " beta pup ". go to pets at home and pick up a big bag.

aslo with his bed, dont buy him a small bed, buy the biggest one you can because believe me in 6months time he'll fill it and you'd be spending a fortune on beds.

when hes older, like i said any left overs he can have or as you said biscuits and tinned food is fine.

we feed our dogs fresh meat like tripe etc but thats because we have so many and its better for building them up.

this may sound stupid but if you dont do this the dog will rule you...when you give him his dinner, as hes half way through it take the dish off him and make him wait a little while for it. its not crule its just to let the dog know that you're the dominant one

they're big powerfull dogs, enough pressure in the jaw to break an arm with 1 bite so you have make sure you're dominant otherwise he will play on it.

Good advise with the taking the food away.. I know my ex with there staffy, her mum and dad used to give him food just to stop him jumping all over the place.. which made him know if he was a little shit, he would get food... I tried to change it for them, by everytime he tried to get attention, just leaving him in the room on his own for 15 minutes..

I know a few people who have them, so i should always be able to get alot of advise here and there..

Is there any main things to really not do with them? I mean with the beach been here, iv always been told its good for dogs to get them swimming.. I surf.. so would it be a good idea when hes grown abit, to go in the water with him, so he can learn to swim?

smiith

31st March 2011, 01:02

This I did not know. Guess it's what your taught as a kid, I was always told they were fuckers. Probably the reason why my family has a Chocolate Lab, such a soppy dog lol.

They just look mean which is what i think puts people off alot.. I mean any dog can turn if you do the wrong things enough times.. But every rottie iv ever been around has been so obedient, and soft, they seem as though they couldnt do harm to anyone!

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 01:07

leave him to go in the water on his own, don't pressure him in. he will go in when hes ready.

make sure he socializes while he is young so you don't have to worry about him being around other dogs/pets when hes older.

when you take him for his injections, the vet will ask you if you want a parvo jab...my advice is to give it him. rottweilers are known for catching parvo which originally comes from cattle but it can kill them. it will only cost you about £17

simple rules really;

1.never leave him tied up outside a shop
2. no chocolate or cheese as they cant digest it
3.make sure he knows you're dominant over him
4. socialize
5. plenty of exercise
6. always make sure he has fresh water
7. use a name which isn't common for a dog
8. make sure he has his injections, you wont need to worry about booster jabs once he has had his first ones
9. plenty of time spent with him while hes a pup
10. if he does something wrong, DO NOT smack his nose, it damages their sense of smell.

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 01:09

They just look mean which is what i think puts people off alot.. I mean any dog can turn if you do the wrong things enough times.. But every rottie iv ever been around has been so obedient, and soft, they seem as though they couldnt do harm to anyone!

i agree mate. i would trust any one of my dogs around anyone, even a young child. but if you was to jump over my back gate or whatever it would be a different story.

a dog will only be what you make it

smiith

31st March 2011, 01:16

All sounds pretty simple, think i will go ahead with it... Sure my mum will be fine after a day or 2, her only concern has ever been cleaning sick out of her new carpet.. If the dogs got the shits or being sick, it can go out into its run for abit.. simple as that really isnt it :/

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 01:19

work like this mate...

if you're in, let the dog in.

when you go out, the dog goes out.

that way nothing will get chewed when you're out and you wont come home to piss and shit in the carpet.

simple!

smiith

31st March 2011, 01:23

My thoughts exactly.. Half the time i will be able to take him to work anyway, and he can sit in the yard, then i can take him in the fields next to us on my breaks, its only when im going places like shopping for the day that id be concerned about him, and stick him outside, just when theres no one home to keep him company, so he doesnt get bored and cause any damage..

Cheers for all the advise buddy, if i need anymore, il drop you a PM

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 01:24

no problem mate, hope ive helped

Ryyy

31st March 2011, 05:30

Remember, I know it's a cliché..but a dog is for life an all that..and maybe if you were out, on holiday etc she maybe doesn't wanna be left with a big rotty..same situation with me tbh, I ain't ever allowed a staff, until I move out.

Twist it round, if it was your home, and you weren't keen on letting a dog loose round your home, would you say yes? I know what I'd say.....

enthrone

31st March 2011, 05:37

cute dog.

i've just got a pup myself thats been rehomed 4 times in his 14 month life.

give it lots of attention and exercise that's all they really need.

sje00

31st March 2011, 06:32

Ok, that is one cute pup. But think of the bastard it will be when it's older lol.

There not bastards when older. There one of the most loving and loyal dogs you can get.

while the pup is young and still growing, it needs as much protein as possible. so scrambled egg, tuna, chicken etc...

at the age the pup is at it will need 3 meals a day so scrambled egg in the morning, biscuits with either tuna eggs or anythin like that in the afternoon and same again at night ( anything full of protein basically).

it wont cost you much at all. the main thing the dog will need is time to be spent with it.

aslong as its dry and theres no damp it would be fine. although he would need a run big enough for him to stretch his body and have a little walk around ( when hes fully grown ). also always make sure he has fresh water every time you feed him.

never take him for a walk atleast an hour before or after feeding him, if you did it could cause the dog an early death.

if you was to have your dinner and youve got some left over...give it the dog, it wont hurt it in any way but dont go out of your way to make sure the dog has some. if theres non left then tough.

also be very careful of who you let know the dogs name because people will steal him believe it or not. use a distinctive name that you wouldnt usually call a dog, and never ever leave him tied up outside of a shop or anything because he'll be gone when you come out.

sorry for the essay just trying to be helpful lol

I really really disagree with the feeding a dog your food!
The dog will learn to beg from your plate if he see's it on or comign from your plate!
Also Dog food is fine for dogs. it has everything they need.
you can supplement it with treats and tripe etc (Basically food for dogs!!) but there isn't really a need to go feeding it scrambled egg and stuff.
Use good quality puppy food and that will be fine.

This I did not know. Guess it's what your taught as a kid, I was always told they were fuckers. Probably the reason why my family has a Chocolate Lab, such a soppy dog lol.

I've had Rottweilers since the day i was born. All are different from each other but all have been extremely loving and very obedient. They like to be active, but also do like a good lay about too. They will be very protective of you, your kids, your house. They are all round great dogs if looked after properly and treated right.
The day i have the stereotypical kids, mortgage and a dog, it will be a Rottweiler.

river

31st March 2011, 06:43

Newtz07

31st March 2011, 06:46

Right.. For years i have wanted a rottweiler.. Iv wanted one for absolutly ages.. Always nagged for one, and my mum has always said "the day you come home with a dog, is the day you no longer have a home.."

Well.. My mate has offered me a Rottie pup.. FREE..

Do you think id be pushing my luck bringing one home? I mean we used to have 2 dogs until they died, so its not like she doesnt like them...

How could anyone say no?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KKstWuwpPwI/TWAIM-N7UDI/AAAAAAAAAiI/tQ5wfH_Co5c/s1600/Rottweiler_Puppy_27390.jpg

wow. are we brothers?

this is exactly the catch phrase my ma used to say to me!

hahaha

its like they have a book of phrases to use in certain situations

edit: thought i would add, thats one nice dog!

but from your mums point of view, its not what it is, its what it WILL become. its a flesh eating monster! i like!

Ryyy

31st March 2011, 06:59

I don't understand why people want these things as pets. They're in the news eating the faces of children every few months and are subject to dangerous dog legislation in a lot of countries like Ireland, Poland, Portugal etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368177/Two-Rottweilers-savage-attack-80-year-old-woman-walks-park.html

From 10 days ago.

Plus, its your Mums house. If she's said she doesn't want a dog, and put it in such strong terms, don't get one. She might not kick you out but its pretty disrespectful just to ignore someones wishes about their own house, and even worse to take advantage of the fact they care about you to bully them into something they don't want.

It's normally the other end of the leash that's the problem, not the dog itself.

If you train a dog correctly, then things like that will never happen.

I admit though, every dog is different and some are wild, with or without proper training.

Rodney

31st March 2011, 07:07

Do it dude she can't kick you out about it.lol

Once my mates bulldogs have had pups am taking one home to my mother.haha

Gary-VTR

31st March 2011, 08:12

rorz_vts

31st March 2011, 08:44

i love these dogs :y: i wouldnt worry to muh mate i had the same with my ma when i wonted to get my english bull but once i brought him home then she just went soft and loves him to bits now,

oh if your looking for a decent diet and cheap food then i cant recommend the barf diet as its just pure raw meet/tripe/veg and its really good for keeping the size on the dogs they need, landywoods.com or co.uk do it in packs ranging from 34p - 50p and 1 pack does each meal for my dog (3 meals a day) and bullies need a fair amount of food/excersize to keep thier bulk up

rorz_vts

31st March 2011, 08:51

I don't understand why people want these things as pets. They're in the news eating the faces of children every few months and are subject to dangerous dog legislation in a lot of countries like Ireland, Poland, Portugal etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368177/Two-Rottweilers-savage-attack-80-year-old-woman-walks-park.html

From 10 days ago.

your a muppet mate, those dogs i bet those dogs werent properly trained and had a owner that couldnt manage them, any dog has the ability to do this like what you have posted but to say things like that because of the breed is just down to your stupidity, i have english bull terriers what do you think of them, no doubt that they all need putting down cause they're dangerous and untrustworthy lol

Newtz07

31st March 2011, 09:10

Personally I wouldn't, as someone said above "a dog's for life..".

You're 22 now according to your profile.. What about when you want to move out in 2/3/5 years?
No landlord will take you in with a large dog - and those that do will be letting shiteholes 99% of the time - so you'll be leaving your aging Mum on her own with a massive Rottweiler.

this man speaks the truth.

i know from experience. its hard top find a ncie place to live that accepts LARGE mammals like that.

i have trouble because i have 2 cats, and cats dont chew things or shit everywhere like dogs do.

lol my landloard had a go coz i have an aquarium. quoting "you are not allowed pets of any kind"

joker

jw1325

31st March 2011, 09:12

while the pup is young and still growing, it needs as much protein as possible. so scrambled egg, tuna, chicken etc...

disclaimer this - do NOT do this with Great Danes if anyone ever gets one.

Great Danes must be fed with food containing a MAXIUM of 33% protein.

they grow too fast as it is, and if fed too much protein will grow too quick and will develop major joint problems

I really really disagree with the feeding a dog your food!
The dog will learn to beg from your plate if he see's it on or comign from your plate!
Also Dog food is fine for dogs. it has everything they need.
you can supplement it with treats and tripe etc (Basically food for dogs!!) but there isn't really a need to go feeding it scrambled egg and stuff.
Use good quality puppy food and that will be fine.

i agree with the never feeding off your plate... my great dane from the day we got her, has went straight to her bed the minute she hears a plate being taken out the cupboard. if we are eating, she goes away and lies down. mealtimes are people times and she knows to go and chill out with her toys for half an hour.

even of Xmas day, with all the food on the table, she walked away and lay on her bed till she was called off. to me thats a bloody respectful dog.

feed the puppy a large 'robust' dog puppy food. i reccomend Purina. we feed Lexi the large athletic puppy food and she really settled on it, and she looks awesome.

here she is at 5 months - bit ASWing ;)
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=545&pictureid=5628
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=545&pictureid=5627

nicole_

31st March 2011, 09:27

i think if your asking for dog advise on a saxo forum you shouldnt get one :P
and make sure you insure it as big dogs have a whole shed load of problems, our most recent vet bill cost us £3000 and hes only 4 lol

VTHall

31st March 2011, 09:44

i'd love a dog but dad wont let me :(

smiith

31st March 2011, 10:38

Im not asking dog advise.. Iv had dogs before, so know how to look after them and that.. Just asking if there was anything specific to know about this kind of dog.. You asled about family cars on a saxo forum didnt you??

As for when i move out, my nan is 94, and iv been left her house in her will, so il have no problem about moving into somewhere that allows pets..

My mums not dead against it because she doesnt want a dog in the house.. She just thinks its harsh leaving it on its own when your away and stuff, but i dont mind forking out to put it in half decent kenels..

I think il be going ahead with it, she will soon change her mind when she sees it.. She did when i brought the ex's staffy home for 3 weeks when they were on holiday!

Gibbo-Vtr

31st March 2011, 10:47

sje00

31st March 2011, 10:53

i bet there's more people bitten by Labrador's and jack russels than Rottweilers.

Referring to the guy sayin '' i dont understand why people want these thing's'' - Your a dick. Grow the F#*k up and take your blinkers off.
Its the twats who stand on the corners or go out and get a ''Staff'' or the ones who say ''yea its 1/2 pit bull'' (when in fact its not got sod all to do with a pitbull) who are the problem. They just buy them as a status item! to ''Ard Bruv''. Half pit?? You bought a mungrel mate!

Look, just do your research, think it over and then decide. But be warned they get rather large and often suffer joint problems when older. Average age for them is 10 years or so.

Good Luck mate.

Mordente10

31st March 2011, 11:18

do it mate.. she will grow to love it :).

daz_zz_er

31st March 2011, 11:28

Suppose you could take it home and see what happens :) I personally would hate to own a dog!!

matt_vtr_15a

31st March 2011, 11:33

I've had a few rotties, got one called buddy at the min!!

For free I couldn't help myself I don't think!

I reckon she will fall in love with it specially as it is a pup!!

Ask for a month to test the water and see what its like!!

Some eat anything and everything though!!

So if it eats her sofa your fucked my friend

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 11:56

brogan5050

31st March 2011, 12:01

I don't understand why people want these things as pets. They're in the news eating the faces of children every few months and are subject to dangerous dog legislation in a lot of countries like Ireland, Poland, Portugal etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1368177/Two-Rottweilers-savage-attack-80-year-old-woman-walks-park.html

From 10 days ago.

Plus, its your Mums house. If she's said she doesn't want a dog, and put it in such strong terms, don't get one. She might not kick you out but its pretty disrespectful just to ignore someones wishes about their own house, and even worse to take advantage of the fact they care about you to bully them into something they don't want.

mate do yourself a favour and fuck off.

if a dog is brought up to react in that way what do you expect? the dog doesnt know any different and its the same for any breed in the world.

ive got a 14stone rottweiler that i'd happily leave in a cresh, wouldnt harm a fly unless you were to jump over my back gate or attack me or my dad.

it depends on the dogs up bringing

jw1325

31st March 2011, 12:08

puppy food wont give a pup as much protein as scrambled eggs, tuna etc which is why its good to feed it them while they're young.

if you discipline a dog it will not beg for food, if you let it then he will.

puppy food is specially developed to give puppies all they need.

thats why its PUPPY food.

it would be miss selling if it didnt! like saying 'heres diabetic chocolate, but it has too much sugar for diabetics really'

a wee bit of scrambled egg is nice as a treat - but you have to remember that dogs become less tolerant of dairy products very quickly, the more they get older.

if your a breeder you should know that.

wheetabix to help the digestive system is the only extra i would give them.

and rotties are a big, heavy dog prone to joint problems. i wouldnt be pumping them full of protein!!!

haz_pro

31st March 2011, 12:09

mate do yourself a favour and fuck off.

if a dog is brought up to react in that way what do you expect? the dog doesnt know any different and its the same for any breed in the world.

ive got a 14stone rottweiler that i'd happily leave in a cresh, wouldnt harm a fly unless you were to jump over my back gate or attack me or my dad.

it depends on the dogs up bringing

WTF

I thought rottweilers werent very big dogs :S, i must be wrong, 14 stone crickey! :panic:

jw1325

31st March 2011, 12:10

WTF

I thought rottweilers werent very big dogs :S, i must be wrong, 14 stone crickey! :panic:

rotties look like fat dobermans lol

haz_pro

31st March 2011, 12:17

rotties look like fat dobermans lol

Wow, didnt realise.

I had a play with my mates once and i assumed it was fully grown, must have been a puppy, was so cute and dopey!

jw1325

31st March 2011, 12:23

lol.

yeh it will have been a pup.

they get pretty big and robust.

Dalesmith19

31st March 2011, 12:28

That is one cute pup, if you dont take it a'll have him :D

matt_vtr_15a

31st March 2011, 12:30

jw1325

31st March 2011, 12:40

Personally I wouldn't feed my dog on tuna and eggs and shit like that, yeah high in protein but unless you want a 14stone dog like this kid says he has then I wouldn't bother!!

I pump loads of protein into my body and it costs a decent amount each day to do so, a 4 tins of decent tuna is about 7 quid...

I know my dog would be starvin after 4 cans of tuna...

so I don't know how that works really... (I only eat john west) so not sure on cheap shit prices..

Personally my dog is fed on with a big a massive tin of dog food meat and about 3 cups of dried dog biscuits...

This is my boy... very healthy and perfect size imo not a fat bastard or runt just built like a brick shithouse

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy295/matt_vtr_15/53e65b1a.jpg

plus matt - your almost fully developed and mature!!

this dudes saying to pump a baby full of protein!

i didnt see my mum forcing raw steak down my throat when i was a baby. and im fine.

over feeding protein causes excess growth and repair to the bones, muscles and organs.

leading to weak muscles and joint problems in later life, due to the joints not having enough time to develop as a young dog to deal with the body mass they will be expected to carry. will induce arthritis, muscle spasms and proneness to 'pulling' at an early age.

rorz_vts

31st March 2011, 12:43

Personally I wouldn't feed my dog on tuna and eggs and shit like that, yeah high in protein but unless you want a 14stone dog like this kid says he has then I wouldn't bother!!

I pump loads of protein into my body and it costs a decent amount each day to do so, a 4 tins of decent tuna is about 7 quid...

I know my dog would be starvin after 4 cans of tuna...

so I don't know how that works really... (I only eat john west) so not sure on cheap shit prices..

Personally my dog is fed on with a big a massive tin of dog food meat and about 3 cups of dried dog biscuits...

This is my boy... very healthy and perfect size imo not a fat bastard or runt just built like a brick shithouse

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy295/matt_vtr_15/53e65b1a.jpg

he's lovely mate, like in one of my posts on page 2, raw meat doesnt cost loads if bought in the right places, my bullie needs quiet a high source of protien in his diet and the rest is made up of veg and tripe and for good measure i throw a few raw meaty bones to help keep him quiet and his teeth clean and abit of seaweed for extra vitamins :y:

sje00

31st March 2011, 12:44

14 stone?!?!
Must be fecking huge!!
Biggest i ever seen was my old one Monty. He was 10stone and mahoosive!!
The boy i got at the moment 'Ralph' is around 8 stone.

markpitchford

31st March 2011, 12:47

as already mentioned go for it.

worked with someone that had a couple, great dogs, and loved them ever since, just never been in a decent enough situation too have one :(.

just don't over feed the poor thing, everytime i see idiots with overweight dogs i really do want to take a bit of 4x2 to the back of their heads and try to beat some sense into them :( :wall:

matt_vtr_15a

31st March 2011, 12:48

plus matt - your almost fully developed and mature!!

this dudes saying to pump a baby full of protein!

i didnt see my mum forcing raw steak down my throat when i was a baby. and im fine.

over feeding protein causes excess growth and repair to the bones, muscles and organs.

leading to weak muscles and joint problems in later life, due to the joints not having enough time to develop as a young dog to deal with the body mass they will be expected to carry. will induce arthritis, muscle spasms and proneness to 'pulling' at an early age.

I would agree with that, pumping a young dog full of protein isn't exactly the best form of energy either....

I am on a protein and fat diet which is exactly what eggs contain or just protein which is in tuna...

you feed a dog on protein and fat alone I expect it will be fucking depressed... I AM!!

No carbs in a dogs diet can not be good...

I don't know about anyone else but I'd rather have a dog with energy and bound about than one that sits there staring at you whilst sat on its arse slowly building its way up to 14 stone :/....

I am no vet etc but I know what a fat and protein diet does to me, so I assume it will have similar effects on a dog...

I borderline died for the first week of my diet whilst tryna carry on with mma and gym...

Feed a dog dog food imo!! OR... A well balanced diet such as meat rice, dog biscuits etc

Oh and jen I don't know how ya dare, common knowledge that dobermans are anorexic rottweilers...

nicole_

31st March 2011, 12:48

+1 on the weight thing, my bernese before died at the age of 6 and had hip dysplasia in both hips and arthiritus in both elbows but nothing could be done cus she was too overweight.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f246/lilnic14/may.jpg
such a big girl bless her, so with the two we have now theyre borderline skinny as their joints cant take it. they only ever had readybrek as puppies and now eat a bit of cooked chicken and rice and some dry food

matt_vtr_15a

31st March 2011, 13:30

jw1325

31st March 2011, 13:34

Oh and just had a little dig around...

A rotty should weigh 9.2 stone max to be in the healthy category.. so ten stone is fair enough...

but 14 stone is definately not fair on the dog imo massively over weight even if its fat or muscular...

Your dog is gonna suffer from severe joint problems etc....

Well done lets all take advice from you :n:

this him??

http://dogsarethecoolest.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/fat-rottweiller.jpg

yup.

i was goni state that but with him being a 'breeder' i thought he's probably come back with tonnes of shit.

but tbh - the minute he said it was ok to serve a dog scraps from your plate i knew he was a lunatic!

if you are goni feed scraps - which you shouldnt as most human food is either processed with artificial shite in it that dogs cant digest-or may have cooked bones in with the meat - you put it away and never feed staright after you eat.

markpitchford

31st March 2011, 13:55

Oh and just had a little dig around...

A rotty should weigh 9.2 stone max to be in the healthy category.. so ten stone is fair enough...

can see around that being fair enough as they seem to be bulky dogs.

as for the pic, the owner should be force fed and made to suffer like that poor thing :wall:

Jen:

not being funny but is lexi a purebred great dane, as she looks very well proportion'd to most i've seen, or is it just cos she's young ?

rey

31st March 2011, 13:59

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=545&pictureid=5628
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=545&pictureid=5627

Off topic, but that is one beautiful dog.

I love my mates one, when you walk in the door, it like grabs your hand really gently and leads you to its toys to play haha!

Smiith, get the puppy, feed it on puppy food, it'll grow up fine!

jw1325

31st March 2011, 14:19

Off topic, but that is one beautiful dog.

I love my mates one, when you walk in the door, it like grabs your hand really gently and leads you to its toys to play haha!

Thanks! i think shes absolutley stunning but im biased!

when you walk in (if she knows you) she will wait behind the glass door and wag her whole bum (not just her tail lol) and then she jumps up really gentle and hooks her legs over your arm so she can give you kisses and you can cuddle her.

then she brings you a ball, drops it on your leg, steps bak, and does tha really cute head tilting thing.

shes amazing

jw1325

31st March 2011, 14:21

Jen:

not being funny but is lexi a purebred great dane, as she looks very well proportion'd to most i've seen, or is it just cos she's young ?

she's got lab in her.

but prominiant great dane, shes great dane size for her age. just a bit softer in the features.

i think shes a really nice example of a cross breed!

sje00

31st March 2011, 14:51

[QUOTE=matt_vtr_15a;5221296]Oh and just had a little dig around...

A rotty should weigh 9.2 stone max to be in the healthy category.. so ten stone is fair enough...

but 14 stone is definately not fair on the dog imo massively over weight even if its fat or muscular...

QUOTE]

He weren't overweight at 10 stone, he was just a bloody big dog. he was pretty lean, just a big dog!

ed-bradley

31st March 2011, 15:00

I've got a Rottwieler-Akita cross.

He's pretty stubborn at times, But he's obedient for the majority. He's also a big bastard, not obese..but he tends to think he's a lap dog..which isn't nice when he stands on your gooch.
..He's Called "Bear". :)
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/aprilia-ed/n618096367_198447_3237-2.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/aprilia-ed/30112010160.jpg

nicole_

31st March 2011, 15:03

jw1325

31st March 2011, 15:07

i love the name bear!!!

rey

31st March 2011, 15:12

I can't wait to get my next puppy, long haired German Shepherd number 2!

GrantW

31st March 2011, 17:02

That Akita cross is lovely, we used to have a rottweiler alsation cross at work, was fucking huge and a damn good guard dog. Once it knew you it was soft as shite but a fair few delivery guys got bitten, but it was their own fault like waving the delivery line in the dogs face, never mind the dog I'd bite you if you done that to me lol!

Really want a Doberman though, always loved them but can't persuade the mrs to have one cause she's shit scared of them. Tried telling her that they only have a bad name because of bad trainers, you train it properly and its just as safe as any other dog.

mattchewone

31st March 2011, 17:14

RAW/BARF diets are much better, eggs raw and scrambled and sardines once or twice a week are perfectly fine as a supplement to raw meat. My youngest pup has only ever had RAW and is not overweight in any way and is in perfect health, my oldest dog whom is 2 has been eating RAW since he was about 6 months old and is extremely fit and has the cleanest teeth my vets have ever seen.

There are pro's and cons with RAW, like having lots of raw meat in the fridge and freezer etc but its much better, smaller stools as they dont have much waste (most dry mix is made up of cereals to bulk it up which is what dogs dont digest and they pass it through) Also chicken wings give the dog something to get its teeth into which keeps there teeth clean and prevents gum disease, dogs teeth and body wasnt designed to eat dry biscuits. They were designed to eat meat and vegetables. So given them carrots and other veg will keep them healthy!

Im not saying dry is bad for dogs there are plenty of dogs that eat it and are healthy but its not what they were built to eat.

Also to who said about people standing on corners with staffs etc, theres nothing wrong with staffs! Its the owners, like all dog issues!!

I'd say get it dogs are such a great companion, I couldnt be without my dogs!

sexy-silver-saxo

31st March 2011, 17:26

Ok, that is one cute pup. But think of the bastard it will be when it's older lol.
why will it be a bastard wen its grown up? bring them up right and they will behave right. my girlfreinds brother has a rotty thts nearly a year old now and i have a staffy that is the same age and they are both good as gold because we have brought them up right and not bashed them about like lil chavy twats do.

if the dogs a little shit its normally the owners fault not the dog

Lacey_106

31st March 2011, 18:07

awwwww..... We have a rott/lab cross. I fucking love him to pieces. :heart:

mattsimmo_350

31st March 2011, 19:24

disclaimer this - do NOT do this with Great Danes if anyone ever gets one.

Great Danes must be fed with food containing a MAXIUM of 33% protein.

they grow too fast as it is

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=545&pictureid=5628

Wow your right, look at the size of it, bit weird that you keep horses in your house too :wacko:

mattsimmo_350

31st March 2011, 19:31

How could anyone say no?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KKstWuwpPwI/TWAIM-N7UDI/AAAAAAAAAiI/tQ5wfH_Co5c/s1600/Rottweiler_Puppy_27390.jpg

Like this

http://www.timpson.com/_getImage.php?image=/i/products/336/1_l.jpg

TomT

31st March 2011, 19:55

If you get one, Feed it human meat. It's good for them you know.

RobVT

31st March 2011, 20:34

I tell you what mate if you dont want him i'll come and pick him up right away im 20 mins away dude :) hes awesome!

welshy23

1st April 2011, 00:10

im waiting for the... My mum kicked me out thread

Big-Ginge-69

1st April 2011, 10:07

always had rottweilers they are the best dogs ever! if you dont want it pal i will!!! :y:

kclipston

1st April 2011, 15:52

i love rottweilers, i had a female called kayla that we got from woodgreen animal shelter. She was vicious to all males but within 6 months she was brilliant, still couldnt risk her around kids though. Rottweilers are only bad if they have been treated bad, otherwise they are brilliant pets. Here are my 2 Kayla is the adult and chase as a pup (we had Kayla for 6 years in this pic and she was good as gold!)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/kerry_clipston/MY%20PETS/ChaseandKayla.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/kerry_clipston/MY%20PETS/kaylaandchase.jpg

Kayla sadly passed away a few months back, really miss her :n:

Heres Chase nowadays, getting teased by charlie:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/kerry_clipston/MY%20PETS/bailey-1.jpg

And a new addition, Bronson with my staffy bailey:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/kerry_clipston/Baileyandbronson.jpg

I'd say take the pup to your mum and then ask if he/she can stay. Once she sees it she'll probally allow you to have it :D