View Full Version : Smoking illegal substances - Your Views
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 20:27
All,
Just sat here wondering, what are your views on smoking of illegal substances ?
Should the law be changed, for better or worse ?
opinions please guys and gals :)
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 20:28
Law should stay as it is. Nothing wrong with smoking weed though.
http://www.atomiclemon.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/drug-chart.gif
Dom
10th April 2011, 20:29
The stuff is shit.
All drugs are a waste of money, I learnt the hard way, I hope most other faggots out there realise that life ain't about how many G's of coke you do in the night, how much bud you smoke and how shit your night is being out of control. End of.
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 20:29
Wow, this thread was a waste of time lol that graph sums it all up :).
Tontsy
10th April 2011, 20:32
I can have a good enough night out, without drugs, or getting pissed.
If you cant have a good night out without the help of drugs...was it worth going out atall?
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 20:34
I can have a good enough night out, without drugs, or getting pissed.
If you cant have a good night out without the help of drugs...was it worth going out atall?
If we are talking about weed and weed only then I dont think you can link it with nights out & if you do then I dont see how you can badmind it. Its less harmfull than alcohol and dosent make you aggressive etc. Why do you need alcohol to have a good night ;)
VTR-GAZzA
10th April 2011, 20:34
I've tried drugs won't do them again and the law should stay the same otherwise everyone will be on weed ect ect
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 20:34
I can have a good night with or without drugs as well. However, after a long week at work, i rather like to have a smoke and relax. I know that it is illegal but it doesn't hurt anybody else.
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 20:36
I've tried drugs won't do them again and the law should stay the same otherwise everyone will be on weed ect ect
But surely it should be that persons choice if they want to do drugs, not the government/police force dictating ?
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 20:37
I've tried drugs won't do them again and the law should stay the same otherwise everyone will be on weed ect ect
Do you really think people avoid weed just because its illegal? Alot of people just smoke it in their houses and whether its illegal or not dosent matter, whats the chances of you getting caught.
What about if alcohol was made illegal...would you all just randomly stop drinking it or would you continue to buy it from mates that have sneaked it in the country or something. If you drink that is. I dont touch drink but I smoke, and im doing less harm to myself than what you are when you drink.
TomT
10th April 2011, 20:41
Nothing wrong with it at all.
Don't think there's anyone I know that are my age that don't smoke weed either, cept like 3 people(Those 3 people includding me).
Nik_L
10th April 2011, 20:45
Stopped it all a few years ago.Don't see the point now and wouldn't go back.
Yeah it was good at the time.Can't beat sitting in your mates house getting wasted.
Start work at 3am and having a wee smoke the night before made me feel fresh as fuk when i got up.
Same with recreational drugs.Yeah you can have a good time without them,but you can have a better time with them.Last time i took anything was at an Ultrasonic gig a cpl years ago.Was fukin amazing at the time,but again,stopped it all.Not much of a drinker now-a-days either.
Dosn't bother me either if other folk take them,only thing that i don't like is when your in a club and some1 is sooo out of it they are falling all over the place.They shouldn't take so much if they cant handle it.
Bedford126
10th April 2011, 20:46
recent research done by the government said that drinking Redbull / stronger energy drinks is mare harmful + addictive than smoking weed. I personally cant see the point in drinking or smoking of any sort. But each to there own no one should tell people what to do or drink or smoke end of the day its there body and there choice, As long as its not near kids then I cant see the harm.
VTR-GAZzA
10th April 2011, 20:59
I reckon more people would smoke weed or take any other drugs if they were legal, i have nothing against them i just think that if they were made legal they would be everywhere and it would just be another thing that people would eventually take too far like alcohol
alcohol ruins some peoples live and so does weed and weed is illegal, if it was legal it would be ruined by the people who go too far.
Barry123
10th April 2011, 21:02
probably best not to. But there are plenty that'll do otherwise. So long as I don't have to cross paths with one of those mongs that can't stfu about weeeddd, weedddd, fucking weed then I don't care either.
JamesR
10th April 2011, 21:03
Alkyl Nitrates (Poppers) lol - Surprised they aren't higher on the list tbh
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 21:03
I reckon more people would smoke weed or take any other drugs if they were legal, i have nothing against them i just think that if they were made legal they would be everywhere and it would just be another thing that people would eventually take too far like alcohol
alcohol ruins some peoples live and so does weed and weed is illegal, if it was legal it would be ruined by the people who go too far.
I can clearly see your point here, I personally am a smoker. if it was legal lots more people would do it and the flip side of weed is just as bad as alcohol. weed is addictive no matter what people say but there are different types of addiction and i see weed no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:04
I dont think people even think about whether the drug is legal or not when they take it. A factor for me whether id take something or not is either health or the effect from it and the waste of money. Not 'oh no, thats naughty and illegal'
If drugs were legal I wouldnt suddenly start taking them all lol
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:05
probably best not to. But there are plenty that'll do otherwise. So long as I don't have to cross paths with one of those mongs that can't stfu about weeeddd, weedddd, fucking weed then I don't care either.
Theyre usually the sort that have just discovered it or smoke it just for the fact they are smoking i, the talk and they think theyre badmans, when its just a normal thing to be smoked by alsorts of different ages and types of people.
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 21:06
but some people would, not that i have met many but they do exist. :-P
Nik_L
10th April 2011, 21:07
Do you think that GHB is on that list because ugly bastards are quite dependant on it??
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:08
I can clearly see your point here, I personally am a smoker. if it was legal lots more people would do it and the flip side of weed is just as bad as alcohol. weed is addictive no matter what people say but there are different types of addiction and i see weed no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco.
You aint actually addicted to the drug itself but wanting more of the effect it has. Heroin and fags you are addicted to you just want more and more. Im too tired to reply anymore, replied enough in this thread anyway
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 21:10
once a smack head always a smack head
Barry123
10th April 2011, 21:12
You aint actually addicted to the drug itself but wanting more of the effect it has. Heroin and fags you are addicted to you just want more and more. Im too tired to reply anymore, replied enough in this thread anyway
I dunno man. I've seen a couple of my mates start smoking weed like it was a cigarette i.e. one does (or at least did) 10-15 a day. No idea how much it costed him but that is some crazy ass addition.
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 21:18
lock the feckers up thieving twats
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 21:22
I dunno man. I've seen a couple of my mates start smoking weed like it was a cigarette i.e. one does (or at least did) 10-15 a day. No idea how much it costed him but that is some crazy ass addition.
I have a mate like that, costs him a fair whack but he is a sound guy and earns cash doing odd jobs on the side. i would agree though with db_sax's reply though.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:22
Suppose it depends how much you put in each joint. I used to work with a 58 year old who smoked a joint as ofton as a fag but hardly any weed in, so was midley stoned all day lol addicted to the tobacco, but added some weed for the effect. I can smoke everyday for a week then not smoke for 2 weeks and I dont even think about it or crave any.
Always seems to be associated with low lifes and scum, but literally all the people I know who smoke it are all high acheivers, got their own business or have something in the pipeline which they are highly enthused by. Not one of them is jobless on the doll spending a whole day blazing with no intention of getting anywhere in life.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:25
lock the feckers up thieving twats
This is what annoys me.. Cant get anymore stereotypical than this, applies to heroin addicts I guess. People are addicted to smoking fags more commonly than weed, but you dont start calling smokers theiving twats do you.
I have a mate like that, costs him a fair whack but he is a sound guy and earns cash doing odd jobs on the side. i would agree though with db_sax's reply though.
thanks lol
Nik_L
10th April 2011, 21:26
There is more people smoke weed than you would think.
Woman at my work used to smoke it.I was there for about 4 years before i found out that she done it.
Same with all my mates,they all have good jobs and houses etc.
CHIP
10th April 2011, 21:30
Same with all my mates,they all have good jobs and houses etc.
You'll probably know people who have good job's, houses etc who do much hardcore drug's than weed too.
People tarnish any drug user with the same brush. In the same way everyone think's every Saxo is a chav, everyone think's every drug user steals money and has no job... Not true.
Not saying it's a good idea to do drug's, just don't think people should be so narrow minded all the time.
Also, similar thread already running.
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 21:38
This is what annoys me.. Cant get anymore stereotypical than this, applies to heroin addicts I guess. People are addicted to smoking fags more commonly than weed, but you dont start calling smokers theiving twats do you.
thanks lol
im a smoker mate and i work for a living and i pay my way in society unlike the majority of smack heads who dont give a shit and will thieve from there own just supply there addiction
cheers saxovtsmad
AKA MICK
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:40
If you're talking about smack headds then fair enough, but everyones talking about weed smokers in this thread.
Cal
10th April 2011, 21:44
I use Mkat on track days for extra focus.
Bound
10th April 2011, 21:45
Lets be honest, theres a rather large difference between soft and hard drugs hence the drug policy of the Netherlands. Cannabis is a soft drug, I'm sure Ryan will quote me and tell me he's worked with people that smoked weed and are mentally ill etc and tell me I'm a opinionated arse or whatever ;D. The people that become psychotic, or become mentally ill or their symptoms exacerbated from smoking weed generally have a genetic disposition in the first place which effects a tiny minority.
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 21:49
Is weed a drug just like coke and all the other shite
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 21:51
Is weed a drug just like coke and all the other shite
Yes but as said there is a major difference between hard and soft drugs.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:51
Is weed a drug just like coke and all the other shite
No not really, have a lok at the second post on this thread if your glasses work old man. Enjoy smoking tobacco mate, you're reducing your life more so than weed smokers. Less likley to quit than a weed smoker too.
adjy90
10th April 2011, 21:52
All,
Just sat here wondering, what are your views on smoking of illegal substances ?
Should the law be changed, for better or worse ?
opinions please guys and gals :)
couldnt give a monkeys what other people do there lives and such
i personally never have and never would try illegal drugs :A:
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 21:55
like i said wheather hard or soft druggs once a druggy always a druggy
adjy90
10th April 2011, 21:56
like i said wheather hard or soft druggs once a druggy always a druggy
:y: agreed
Rudpud
10th April 2011, 21:57
Love is my drug.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 21:58
like i said wheather hard or soft druggs once a druggy always a druggy
So you're a druggy then as you take a medium compound drug? Harder than weed, but softer than heroin.
Bound
10th April 2011, 21:58
- Cannabis is not physically addictive
- The only possible harmful outcome is psychosis to a tiny minority of those already susceptible from their genetics to the illness
- Tobacco leads to lung cancer, alcohol leads to liver failure, overeating and obesity leads to heart failure.. So lets ban food? Seeing as both tobacco and alcohol are also addictive and cannabis is not.
Oh wait, what about moderation?
Your sensibility and self awareness is not nearly as comprised, I understand this is subjective, but I have never had a fight or fell about the town smashing stuff up from smoking weed, the worst thing I'm capable of doing is ordering everything on the dominoes menu..twice.. Other effects? - Lethargy.. Giggles, relaxed, happiness, hunger etc etc.. as everyone knows. It's not a partying drug.. It's something you do in the comfort of your own home before wacking a film on and winding down. I don't understand how it hurts anyone either? I've never heard of anyone robbing someones house for a bag of weed, heroin and crack - sure.. But weed? No. Personally I could go for a couple of weeks of smoking weed everyday, then stop for a couple of weeks and not miss it at all.
As far as 'wasting money'... This is not possible. That's totally subjective, imo pissing your money against the wall down the pub is a waste of money, but to many people it's not, how is this any different?
You do of course get your JSA wasters that smoke weed all day and do fuck all, but would they do that if weed didn't exist? Is that cannabis's fault, or their mentality from how they've been brought up to find that acceptable and that the benefits systems fault for allowing them to get away with it.
I really don't think recreational use of a almost harmless drug is going to be the downfall of any Country if it was legalised.. In fact, the money wasted on enforcement on a useless prohibition which clearly doesn't work seeing as how popular and easy it is to obtain would be better saved, legalised, and taxed. The revenue gained from taxing cannabis would be immense. Would certainly help the deficit.
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 22:01
So you're a druggy then as you take a medium compound drug? Harder than weed, but softer than heroin.
what a prick
RabarSaxo
10th April 2011, 22:03
All i have to say is.. some people do stuff to rebel against something.. i remember ages ago.. a teacher telling the class "you can talk" and no one talked.. until they went to a class with some strict teacher.. i know people that do drugs for the sake they think it makes them "bad" or "hard" If the law made things like weed legal i wonder how many people would do it knowing they aint gonna be classed as Bad people.. That just in my area anyway xD hehe
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 22:04
- Cannabis is not physically addictive
- The only possible harmful outcome is psychosis to a tiny minority of those already susceptible from their genetics to the illness
- Tobacco leads to lung cancer, alcohol leads to liver failure, overeating and obesity leads to heart failure.. So lets ban food? Seeing as both tobacco and alcohol are also addictive and cannabis is not.
Oh wait, what about moderation?
Your sensibility and self awareness is not nearly as comprised, I understand this is subjective, but I have never had a fight or fell about the town smashing stuff up from smoking weed, the worst thing I'm capable of doing is ordering everything on the dominoes menu..twice.. Other effects? - Lethargy.. Giggles, relaxed, happiness, hunger etc etc.. as everyone knows. It's not a partying drug.. It's something you do in the comfort of your own home before wacking a film on and winding down. I don't understand how it hurts anyone either? I've never heard of anyone robbing someones house for a bag of weed, heroin and crack - sure.. But weed? No. Personally I could go for a couple of weeks of smoking weed everyday, then stop for a couple of weeks and not miss it at all.
As far as 'wasting money'... This is not possible. That's totally subjective, imo pissing your money against the wall down the pub is a waste of money, but to many people it's not, how is this any different?
You do of course get your JSA wasters that smoke weed all day and do fuck all, but would they do that if weed didn't exist? Is that cannabis's fault, or their mentality from how they've been brought up to find that acceptable and that the benefits systems fault for allowing them to get away with it.
I really don't think recreational use of a almost harmless drug is going to be the downfall of any Country if it was legalised.. In fact, the money wasted on enforcement on a useless prohibition which clearly doesn't work seeing as how popular and easy it is to obtain would be better saved, legalised, and taxed. The revenue gained from taxing cannabis would be immense. Would certainly help the deficit.
brilliantly said :) however i think the smokers amongst us would rather it be a small tax. however we may actually end up getting proper weights for once :)
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 22:04
what a prick
See, you dont like being branded as a druggy do you. Yet you're harming yourself more than what you call a 'druggy' maybe its time to put the cancer sticks down mate.
Barry123
10th April 2011, 22:08
I use Mkat on track days for extra focus.
hahaha
RabarSaxo
10th April 2011, 22:09
See, you dont like being branded as a druggy do you. Yet you're harming yourself more than what you call a 'druggy' maybe its time to put the cancer sticks down mate.
What is the point insulting someone.. People are who they are, Accept it or leave the thread.. This is for people's thoughts on the subject not to start pointing out people for who they are... Just saying..
saxovtsmad
10th April 2011, 22:11
See, you dont like being branded as a druggy do you. Yet you're harming yourself more than what you call a 'druggy' maybe its time to put the cancer sticks down mate.
at least when i have a smoke i dont want to take the world on or want to steal from people thats my opinion of a person who smokes druggs not normal cigarettes
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 22:12
What is the point insulting someone.. People are who they are, Accept it or leave the thread.. This is for people's thoughts on the subject not to start pointing out people for who they are... Just saying..
Sorry mate, I was just replying to him insulting users of weed by calling them theiving twats, smack heads. He seems abit narrow minded, although I wasnt insulting him, just educating him on the effects of smoking compared to cannabis.
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 22:14
at least when i have a smoke i dont want to take the world on or want to steal from people thats my opinion of a person who smokes druggs not normal cigarettes
LMFAO ! i do not know even one person that will smoke drugs and go about smashing things up and stealing, personally for me when i have a smoke i couldnt give a shit about taking on the world all i am doing is relaxing.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 22:14
at least when i have a smoke i dont want to take the world on or want to steal from people thats my opinion of a person who smokes druggs not normal cigarettes
Again depends on which drugs, weed smokers would probably fall asleep rather than take the world on, thats a ciggerette smokers job, imoo
Stereotypes. Bloody saxo drivers hey, theyre all chavs.
RabarSaxo
10th April 2011, 22:14
Sorry mate, I was just replying to him insulting users of weed by calling them theiving twats, smack heads. He seems abit narrow minded, although I wasnt insulting him, just educating him on the effects of smoking compared to cannabis.
Im sure by now he knows what type of effects he is dealing with, Maybe i misunderstood the points of your posts slightly so i am therefore also sorry, i just dont like seeing people victimised because of their lifestyle..
TomT
10th April 2011, 22:16
Is weed a drug just like coke and all the other shite
Not really.
like i said wheather hard or soft druggs once a druggy always a druggy
Also not true..
I use to smoke bud every single day of my life, a lot of it 2. (I guess that makes me a druggy from what you're saying)
Don't smoke at all now and haven't for about a year.
Cal
10th April 2011, 22:16
I have a smokers pipe which blows bubbles. Makes me feel like a big man.
Mochachino
10th April 2011, 22:18
Im sure by now he knows what type of effects he is dealing with, Maybe i misunderstood the points of your posts slightly so i am therefore also sorry, i just dont like seeing people victimised because of their lifestyle..
My posts towards him are trying to show that his stereotype of drug smokers is not true. Read his posts and you will see pointless uneducated stereotypical reponses! Coool thoughh!
adjy90
10th April 2011, 22:18
I have a smokers pipe which blows bubbles. Makes me feel like a big man.
Cal you are my idol :fcuk:
NobbyClarke
10th April 2011, 22:19
I have a smokers pipe which blows bubbles. Makes me feel like a big man.
LOL:smoke:
RabarSaxo
10th April 2011, 22:19
I have a smokers pipe which blows bubbles. Makes me feel like a big man.
Unless that was a joke or sarcasm my point has just been proven :) People sometimes do stuff to look better etc :) Look up to see my post ^^^^
Cal
10th April 2011, 22:21
Unless that was a joke or sarcasm my point has just been proven :) People sometimes do stuff to look better etc :) Look up to see my post ^^^^Me? Sarcastic???
Lacey_106
10th April 2011, 22:28
Me? Sarcastic???
No Cal really is just a prick ;)
CHIP
10th April 2011, 22:32
at least when i have a smoke i dont want to take the world on or want to steal from people thats my opinion of a person who smokes druggs not normal cigarettes
Lol, who's the dick? Really do make me piss with your comments in here :homme:
Cal
10th April 2011, 22:33
Can't argue with that Lacey... PS; in relation to the thread, I saw your 2 page spread in CrackWhore magazine.
Very nice.
Futurism
11th April 2011, 00:29
This is a topic that will never be resolved, more specifically to weed as people experiences and knowledge of it are so digress. Starting with the main reason weed was made illegal as paper companies pushed the case through court as hemp is a more economical and "green" way of making paper than using trees.
I read in a book that Once made illegal a case was made to legalise it as burning the waste product from the plant gives off more energy than burning fossil fuels and that by farming the plant could rapidly reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and produce a vast amount of jobs, yet the answer to this was "but it's illegal".
This will never change the stereotype the middle class have that all weed smokers are hooded yobs that are going to break into their precious homes And steal there possessions to fund their "habit" and this is where a large preportion of the political vote so what party is going to adopt this policy?
Even though it's proven that THC isn't actually addictive and that it's no worse for you than most of the things we already do,
But these arnt positive points just reasons why if this is banned then so should this. They will never be able to stop it completely but soo much has gone in to drugs campaigns they arnt going to change that now.
I enjoy it now and again and havnt got a problem with anyone that does do it, all the people I've met that have are really nice people. Keep your self to yourself about it and I don't see the problem
CHIP
11th April 2011, 11:38
Keep your self to yourself about it and I don't see the problem
Nail on the head regard's weed. Yes, heroin is a different level. But as Danny showed, tobacco is more addictive than weed. Yet people who smoke aren't considered druggy's. Alcohol, some folk's go out and get hammered every weekend... Yet they aren't considered in the same way.
Same as anything, in moderation... (No, i don't smoke weed or take any other drug's before that's what people think lol)
twoga
11th April 2011, 12:38
doesnt matter if its a hard drug or soft drug
its a drug at the end of the day and you will allways get stereotyped as scum or a druggy because you use drugs
NobbyClarke
11th April 2011, 12:53
doesnt matter if its a hard drug or soft drug
its a drug at the end of the day and you will allways get stereotyped as scum or a druggy because you use drugs
not true as alcohol, tobbacco & caffiene are all drugs, and as harmful if not more so than weed.
jw1325
11th April 2011, 12:57
If people want to take drugs thats their choice, as is smoking and drinking.
although the government should legalise it, produce the shit, put a hefty tax on it, sell it, and
(a) make lots of factory / driving/marketing/ admin jobs for some of Britains huge unemployed workforce
(b) use the tax money from it to bail them selves out of the fucking debt were in, and lower petrol.
/thread.
twoga
11th April 2011, 13:27
not true as alcohol, tobbacco & caffiene are all drugs, and as harmful if not more so than weed.
yes but they are all legal and you do not get labeled if you use then unlike weed
1991Tom
11th April 2011, 13:31
Ive been smoking weed for 4 years... in fact im stoned now lolz
Check out a documentary called: The Union (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#) ...i think it might still be on google video. Shows the propaganda face that cannabis has in modern society and how wrong it is illegal for all the wrong reasons (More government/War based).
If you have strong views on the plant (Drug) do have a look at the documentry which is hugely underground but many have seen it and had a different view.
NobbyClarke
11th April 2011, 13:48
Jen i agree with your post.
twoga, i understand that they are legal but they are still drugs are they not so therefore users are as you put it 'scum and druggies'
Tom, there are many documentaries and depending upon which ones you watch the opinions are all different. i personally havent seen the union but i shall have a watch this evening as i am at work atm and would prefer to watch it with a nice big fat long cone :)
Rotrex_Rallye
11th April 2011, 14:33
All I can say is, each to their own. I have mates that wouldn't even touch a spliff with a barge pole and some who dabble in pretty heavy stuff. At the end of the day it's their choice and I don't judge them for that. Me personally, smoking a bit of weed is nothing. I have a mate thats been dealing weed for several years now and some of the people who buy it off him you just wouldn't beleive. I even know a copper that doesn't mind the odd toot now and again, which says it all really.
Boothy_UK
11th April 2011, 14:38
I blaze zoots.
adjy90
11th April 2011, 15:27
yes but they are all legal and you do not get labeled if you use then unlike weed
in a way you are correct but you may get called a binge drinker even if you only got out once/twice a month
Bound
11th April 2011, 15:28
Ive been smoking weed for 4 years... in fact im stoned now lolz
Check out a documentary called: The Union (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#) ...i think it might still be on google video. Shows the propaganda face that cannabis has in modern society and how wrong it is illegal for all the wrong reasons (More government/War based).
If you have strong views on the plant (Drug) do have a look at the documentry which is hugely underground but many have seen it and had a different view.
There are no good reasons for cannabis prohibition and alcohol and tobacco to be permitted. Horrendous double standards.
It stems from countries being founded on religious morality, in this cause - Christianity, or suppression of the hemp industry. I'm the first one to vehemently ridicule conspiracies and the like, but the facts are there, if there was some objectivity instead of the same opinionated pseudo scientific bullshit and what ifs and maybes that people churn out time and time again any time cannabis comes up we'd be getting somewhere.
Boothy_UK
11th April 2011, 15:31
+1 ^^
Bound wins :y:
Newtz07
11th April 2011, 15:40
i dont do drugs... anymore.
i smoke weed ofcourse, what kind of new age hippy doesnt!
but thats it.
oh, i drink aswel.
and all you who say drugs are shit, and still drink and smoke cigs, you are hypocritical bastards!
cigarettes and alcohol kill more people each year than crack, smack and meth combined
they are seen as the bad guy because we are programmed against them at an early age as they make no cash from there sale.
Bound
11th April 2011, 15:45
+1 ^^
Bound wins :y:
I guarantee someone will quote me, tell me my judgment is compromised, tell me I'm an idiot, make a remark about me smoking weed, blah blah blah, then end on some 'irrefutable' point.
i dont do drugs... anymore.
i smoke weed ofcourse, what kind of new age hippy doesnt!
but thats it.
oh, i drink aswel.
and all you who say drugs are shit, and still drink, you are hypocritical bastards!
cigarettes and alcohol kill more people each year than crack, smack and meth combined
they are seen as the bad guy because we are programmed against them at an early age as they make no cash from there sale.
It's the same as the 'don't smoke' mentality they teach children.. It's pretty much bordering on "if you have 1 puff you will DIE".
If I was a councilor I would be like "..so yeah theres some down sides.. But I'm banging 7 gram rocks and fucking a porn star, while you've got your mondeo and your 2.5 children".
Exciting.
They should just tell kids the truth - The reason people do drugs is because they are fun and enjoyable, and sometimes because they become addictied to the hard ones, how retarded do you have to be to teach kids never to try anything.. That will work for some but lots will just be encouraged.
PEER PRESSURE.
Newtz07
11th April 2011, 16:45
I guarantee someone will quote me, tell me my judgment is compromised, tell me I'm an idiot, make a remark about me smoking weed, blah blah blah, then end on some 'irrefutable' point.
It's the same as the 'don't smoke' mentality they teach children.. It's pretty much bordering on "if you have 1 puff you will DIE".
If I was a councilor I would be like "..so yeah theres some down sides.. But I'm banging 7 gram rocks and fucking a porn star, while you've got your mondeo and your 2.5 children".
Exciting.
They should just tell kids the truth - The reason people do drugs is because they are fun and enjoyable, and sometimes because they become addictied to the hard ones, how retarded do you have to be to teach kids never to try anything.. That will work for some but lots will just be encouraged.
PEER PRESSURE.
thats it man.
the thing is, Alcohol is legal. Cigarettes are legal.
yet cannabis is not.
it grows naturally, all over the planet, serves a million purposes, 90% of them positive.
dont you think the idea of making nature against the law seem a little paranoid?
its like admitting God was wrong (from their eyes, i dont believe in god, but this country was founded on religious beliefs)
this guy knows mate, listen to him,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZqYV9KKOZQ&feature=related
cant figure out how to embed :S
he is the way forward
i personally think all drugs should be legal. make hefty sentences for dealing, growing etc without a permit.
the world would be a better plae to be.
tax the shit out of them, and make them available via prescription, other than cannabis, that is a recreational drug. but have that available for prescription aswel as it has massive medical advantages to most of the drugs on the market.
the UK's debt would be cut in half in the 1st 5 years without job cuts.
Mochachino
11th April 2011, 17:04
Would be kinda funny if it was made legal and taxed. On your insurance: Occupation - Weed Dealer
nicole_
11th April 2011, 17:10
i dont like it after seeing it bring out schizophrenia in an ex. was really scary :sad:
Bound
11th April 2011, 17:20
thats it man.
the thing is, Alcohol is legal. Cigarettes are legal.
yet cannabis is not.
it grows naturally, all over the planet, serves a million purposes, 90% of them positive.
dont you think the idea of making nature against the law seem a little paranoid?
its like admitting God was wrong (from their eyes, i dont believe in god, but this country was founded on religious beliefs)
this guy knows mate, listen to him,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZqYV9KKOZQ&feature=related
cant figure out how to embed :S
he is the way forward
i personally think all drugs should be legal. make hefty sentences for dealing, growing etc without a permit.
the world would be a better plae to be.
tax the shit out of them, and make them available via prescription, other than cannabis, that is a recreational drug. but have that available for prescription aswel as it has massive medical advantages to most of the drugs on the market.
the UK's debt would be cut in half in the 1st 5 years without job cuts.
Of course, there is so much money wasted on prohibition.. and for what.. for money to go into dealers pockets rather than a respectable seller A prohibition that never has and never will work. What right does any government have to ban one plant for recreational use but allow barley and hops for beer and grapes for wine etc.. Fucking arseholes.
If you don't like the law, don't obey it. Then you can be awesome like me. :afro:
Mochachino
11th April 2011, 17:22
And garden centers are allowed to sell silvia :S
bfc2dabone
11th April 2011, 17:44
nothing wrong with a lil smoke in my eyes, done it for years, im 41 now and it has neva lead to anything higher classed, as db says, i can go weeks without having a J, and have no effects at all, love a smoke b4 i go to bed, if you have a bird with u, ur going for ages, and if your by urself ur asleep before your head hits the pillow win/win lol
Newtz07
11th April 2011, 18:02
Would be kinda funny if it was made legal and taxed. On your insurance: Occupation - Weed Dealer
hahaha, yer, think that would increase the premium. i would put horticulturist down!
Of course, there is so much money wasted on prohibition.. and for what.. for money to go into dealers pockets rather than a respectable seller A prohibition that never has and never will work. What right does any government have to ban a plant for recreational use but allow barley and hops for beer.. Fucking arseholes.
If you don't like the law, don't obey it. Then you can be awesome like me. :afro:
Yer, they know i smoke weed, i have been arrested enough times for it lol
the census man knocked on my door on saturday afternoon, and opened it with a massive joint hanging out of my mouth, thought it was one of my mates, lol, he looked shocked, like "what are you doing?" it is saturday afternoon man, what the hell you think i am doing! the xbox is on, and i am getting baked to the slow vibration of The Rolling Stones, care to come in?
And garden centers are allowed to sell silvia :S
just an idea... and firm PRAYER!
i dont like it after seeing it bring out schizophrenia in an ex. was really scary :sad:
it can affect different people in doifferent ways. like some people can drink, and not get liver/kidney failure. its the rough with the smooth.
personally i am 26, and have smoked it since i was 15. i am fine. its all to do with how your mental state is to begin with i think
Bound
11th April 2011, 18:07
personally i am 26, and have smoked it since i was 15. i am fine.
That's questionable. LOL.
Newtz07
11th April 2011, 18:13
That's questionable. LOL.
hahaha, cheeky bastard!
but yer, you got me their
ok, i am maybe not 'fine' to the normal persons parameters... but define normal?
i am not talking to myself, i dont get paranoid, and such.
i am free, i try to love everyone, and i try to get through this shit with a smile on my face.
lol
Morgan_VTR
11th April 2011, 20:10
I replied in the older thread.
I agree with Bound, he always has the whole picture in mind. I was going to write more on the subject, but I just finished a cheeky bit of hash and feeling rather too relaxed and I can't be bothered : P Oh yeah that's right, the only harm I can see from harm is indirect, in terms of people suffering elsewhere in order for that product to be brought and bought to you. Firmly indirect, but you have to be of a mundane mindset to conceive those sorts of thoughts.
DBsax, couldn't agree more with your input tbh. Has anyone seen 'super high me'? Quite informative on this subject and you can watch it on youtube.
For the record I'm against hard drugs, cocaince - tried and never saw the attraction... ironic being of Colombian heritage. Maybe it wasn't 'pure'. Anyway, weed smokers are just as diverse and non weed smokers.
Live and let live, peace and unity. We all related y0!
PS: Distant Relavtives - Damien Marley+Nas. Worth a listen.
Morgan_VTR
11th April 2011, 20:18
Newtz, inevitable you were going to post in this thread ;) Lol to the story.
Newtz07
12th April 2011, 06:39
Newtz, inevitable you were going to post in this thread ;) Lol to the story.
hahahaha, Morgan, your a legend!
you know how i like to toke up the finest bro. i am guessing you hear me over xbox live, starting the night really cheery, and bright, then gradually throughout the night going more and more stoned. LOL
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