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jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 15:49
So me, alex and my brother have just been to weigh our cars at mallory...

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/6f195039.jpg

Car 1: mark1 mango Saxo westcoast, 16v engine, stripped completely, 20kg cage, carbon roof & boot, 25litres of fuel (roughly)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/8bf3f60e.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/63b753b9.jpg

Car 2: mark2 Banana 106gti, 16v engine, full interior (bucket recliner front seats), soundeadening removed & rear seat belts removed, 25litres of fuel (roughly)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/fc12fc48.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/a3258fe8.jpg

Car 3: mark1 blue 106, 8v 1.4 iron block engine, rear completely stripped & carbon front seats, 20litres of fuel (roughly)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/dd3b0a91.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/jpsaxo/efc8cab2.jpg

How much do you think they weigh?

Car:

1
2
3

Mochachino
27th June 2011, 16:00
1. 870
2. no Idea 970?
3. 820ish

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 16:10
1. 870
2. no Idea 970?
3. 820ish

Well 16v standard (Alex's is 960kg's) mine standard with a 16v is about 940kg ish and sams (106xsi) standard is 860kg's....

AlexB
27th June 2011, 18:51
I know :P

Proper unimpressed i need to find more to chuck out

dannygti
27th June 2011, 19:02
i reckon sams is under 800kgs

i know alex's

and i have no idea what yours is

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 19:39
i reckon sams is under 800kgs

i know alex's

and i have no idea what yours is

Take a guess Danny :D

dannygti
27th June 2011, 19:49
dont know mate tbh.. 800kg? just a wild guess

titchster
27th June 2011, 19:51
1. 875kg
2. 950kg
3. 800kg

AndySAXO
27th June 2011, 20:00
Oo I know ;) very good weights IMO.

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 20:01
dont know mate tbh.. 800kg? just a wild guess

Well yours was 800kg with nothing in including lightened bumpers. Mine has cage but then also has carbon fibre...

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 20:02
1. 875kg
2. 950kg
3. 800kg

Close with 3, miles out on 1 and 2 :D

dannygti
27th June 2011, 20:05
Well yours was 800kg with nothing in including lightened bumpers. Mine has cage but then also has carbon fibre...

mine was 790kgs with a little fuel in..

so about the same??

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 20:35
Mine had half a tank in it...

dannygti
27th June 2011, 20:38
id say mine is a fair bit heavier now.. probably 30kgs heavier. and the cage will add around the same again.

are you going to tell me now or what lol?

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 20:46
id say mine is a fair bit heavier now.. probably 30kgs heavier. and the cage will add around the same again.

are you going to tell me now or what lol?

Lol, yeah,

Car1(mine): 821kg (saving 140kgs ish)
Car2(alexb): 884kg (saving 80kgs ish)
Car3(Sams xsi): 812kg (saving 50kgs ish)

I'm really happy with that tbh considering my cage has added at least 20kg's so in theory I've saved over 160kgs!

I thought sams would be slightly less tbh, and alex's is a decent saving considering its not had that much lightening done so far...

dannygti
27th June 2011, 20:53
thats a GREAT weight mate, got to be happy with that.. i know i would.
its a seriously light car.

i thought sams would be a tad lighter but still fucking light lol.
good stuff.

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 20:59
Yeah i agree mate, im really happy with that

Once i get my carbon bonnet and will be down to my target weight of 800kg's or there abouts :D

dannygti
27th June 2011, 21:09
true, you could easily lose more weight without compramise though mate. well have a chat about it next mash up

Viper
27th June 2011, 21:22
I'm tempted to say fuck all for all three.

Dave_P
27th June 2011, 21:28
Bloody heavy cars those! :p

unreal106
27th June 2011, 21:39
lol dave-

very nice weights everyone suprised how light alex's is!

sam come on your ardly trying but lets face it that is one light car!

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 21:46
Ok Danny sounds good mate, when are you next back? staying NA so need to loose as much as possible without losing my creature comforts ;)

lol dave-

very nice weights everyone suprised how light alex's is!

sam come on your ardly trying but lets face it that is one light car!

I thought sams would be sub 800kg but then he hasn't done that much weight saving with the xsi tbh, it still has all the soundeadening in at the moment lol!

Alright Dave alright, I'd love an s1 but as I said to steve the other day they didn't do them in mango :p lol

AlexB
27th June 2011, 22:29
I need to sort my fibreglass bonnet (single sheet 4 aerocatches and a pin in the badge to stop it flapping) and rear 3 polycarbs out theres a few other bits too but im not 100% on doing them

There sat in the garage ready haha

was impressed at joshs and sams i didnt realise still had a fair bit under the carpet so its not bad tbh will be under 800 with very little effort

Pretty good to see

Love that mines happily over 200hp/ton with full interior as that was my initial aim when i started the motor build tbh

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 22:32
211bhp per ton so way over 200per ton with full interior is just nuts alex tbh! :D

Ross
27th June 2011, 22:42
That's pretty good weight saving guys :)

Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly :)

Did it cost much/anything?

jpsaxo
27th June 2011, 22:47
That's pretty good weight saving guys :)

Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly :)

Did it cost much/anything?

Nah all free as my dad is friends with the manager at mallory park ;)

This ones accurate to the nearest 0.5kg so is really good :)

Ross
27th June 2011, 23:10
Nah all free as my dad is friends with the manager at mallory park ;)

This ones accurate to the nearest 0.5kg so is really good :)

My new best friend - Jp ;)

Jay_
27th June 2011, 23:56
800kg = what BHP per tonne for you JP?


EDIT - I didn't read the thread...Never mind!

titchster
28th June 2011, 01:13
Holy shit, that light!


Although, that means my 106 must have been pretty bloody light then. I think the mango's probably stripped a bit more, but has a heavier cage than I was running. Fuck, that' upsetting...

jpsaxo
28th June 2011, 07:45
My new best friend - Jp ;)

Haha, when I next up there I'll let you know, prob be next year sometime though!

Jay - Currently it's 200 per ton using 165bhp as a power figure, with 800kg it would be around 210per ton roughly.

Titch - what spec was your 106?

AlexB
28th June 2011, 08:22
Tithes was a 1.1 with a 16v stripped with a half cage and buckets

Mochachino
28th June 2011, 09:12
Thats a pretty good weight with interior etc alex, id be chuffed with that!

Very light also Josh. I agree though, im surprised Sams aint a little bit lighter. I guessed 820kgs for his as thats what my old 1.4 weighed at with them two Corbeau Recliners I got off you guys years ago. + I didnt go to town with insulation behind the dash etc

AlexB
28th June 2011, 09:17
I am chuffed but i know theres a lot more come off potential sub 875 with my new bits

Id love sub 900 full interior and cage would be nice haha

dannygti
28th June 2011, 10:54
That's pretty good weight saving guys :)

Mine came in at 820 last year (on a public Weighbridge so give or take!) - was aiming for 500bhp/ton which I finally got this year as I think the cars lost a little weight this year (lighter rad, intercooler, some interior parts, etc). I'd really like to get it weighed properly somewhere like that though so you know exactly :)

Did it cost much/anything?

if that was when it was turbo'd then theres no way im believing that! you have BE box, cage, all turbo gear etc and only 30kgs heavier than my car was with throttle bodies...colin says his car is 900kgs.. how is your 80kgs lighter? i wanna know so i can do it, should get mine down to below 700kgs ;)



josh, im back a week on wednesday mate. when ive got my clutch sorted and the car mapped ill take a ride up to yours :)

KamRacing
28th June 2011, 11:03
To get a car below 700kg you have to go pretty drastic. I'm cutting and chopping lots on my 205 to get that low.

titchster
28th June 2011, 17:16
Titch - what spec was your 106?

Tithes was a 1.1 with a 16v stripped with a half cage and buckets

Yeah, similar to what Alex said, but it wasn't a 1.1 to start with. Pretty much a base spec shell with sports suspension/the brace bars that go from the bulkhead to the wishbone kidney mountings etc. Handbook said ~895kg to start with.

dannygti
28th June 2011, 19:27
To get a car below 700kg you have to go pretty drastic. I'm cutting and chopping lots on my 205 to get that low.

i was being sarcastic kam :D

KamRacing
28th June 2011, 20:52
why? :D I've got an aim to get mine nearer 600kg. Not sure its really possible but I'll have a good crack!

dannygti
28th June 2011, 20:54
why? :D I've got an aim to get mine nearer 600kg. Not sure its really possible but I'll have a good crack!

cause ive now got a big heavy turbo/intercooler/exhaust to lug around lol.. im sure an extra 150hp will make up for it though :P

jsdvtr
29th June 2011, 07:12
This makes me want to start getting rid of more weight from the saxo, Id like to know what it weights atm.

axsaxoman
29th June 2011, 13:45
why you wieghing them with a spare wheel in?

titchster
29th June 2011, 13:56
Probably because that's generally how they're driven? Gives a good idea of the weight of the car as it's used, opposed to the weight if it had various parts removed.

jpsaxo
29th June 2011, 14:48
John - I removed my spare wheel as when on track days I normally remove it anyway.