Cheap Motoring - Retro Hot hatch?

[Jordysport]

Looking for a car for some cheap motoring but still a fun little car, insurance isn't too bad as i am 20 with 3 yrs NCB and i'm in an A area postcode. thinking of something small and different to anything i've had really, thought so far,

- 205 Gti 1.9 - 148.57 Bhp/ton Insurance: £586.63
- Clio Williams - 143.56 Bhp/ton Insurance: £745.63
- R5 GT Turbo - 138.01 Bhp/ton Insurance: £645.38
- 306 Gti-6 - 137.56 Bhp/ton Insurance: £578.15
- Clio 172 - 135.14 Bhp/ton Insurance: £773.19
- 205 Rallye - 130.37 Bhp/ton Insurance: £404.31
- Proton Satria GTi - 123.77 Bhp/ton Insurance: £768.95
- Daihatsu Charade GTti - 122.5 Bhp/ton Insurance: £570.73





and they don't have to be french :P . cheers folks. :y:

[Mochachino]

Mk1 Clio valver?

[Jordysport]

Mk1 Clio valver?

lol not really sure what you mean by that, is that the williams or just the 1800?

[Mochachino]

Just the 1800, that known as a valver :p

[Giraffe]

Valver is such a stupid term...

Don't you already have like a million cars already or am I getting you confused with someone else?

[Jordysport]

Valver is such a stupid term...

Don't you already have like a million cars already or am I getting you confused with someone else?

yeah i have loads of cars, did think about just using the 16v Rallye i have but its the derivative of all saxo's 106's etc just want something a bit different. i'd rather just have a cheap car to motor about in and not worry about the mileage racking up, whereas if i rack it up in my Twingo it will depricaite alot!! more than it has already anyway.

[Giraffe]

yeah i have loads of cars, did think about just using the 16v Rallye i have but its the derivative of all saxo's 106's etc just want something a bit different. i'd rather just have a cheap car to motor about in and not worry about the mileage racking up, whereas if i rack it up in my Twingo it will depricaite alot!! more than it has already anyway.

I know it's not fun, but I'd just get a shitty diesel and make do...

[Jordysport]

I know it's not fun, but I'd just get a shitty diesel and make do...

:panic: :panic: :panic:

Good idea, but i won't be able to "make do" for long, i will just get fed up. i'd happily get a fabia vrs though but thats a bit dear.

[Giraffe]

:panic: :panic: :panic:

Good idea, but i won't be able to "make do" for long, i will just get fed up. i'd happily get a fabia vrs though but thats a bit dear.

Sounds as if you already have a fair few fun cars already though and I can't see any other cars being drastically different, especially if it's just to potter about in... Sounds like you will just get bored of ANY car.

[Mochachino]

- Proton Satria GTi then turbo

[BBM]

Get a 205 GTi or a Mk1 Clio Williams.

[Giraffe]

If you want a retro hot hatch, I'd suggest a Polo G40?

[BBM]

G40's cost mental amounts, clean one up here is up for £3500

[Quick]

Mk1 or mk2 Golf Gti?

What's your budget?

[Jordysport]

Mk1 or mk2 Golf Gti?

What's your budget?

dunno really on budget probably around 2k or so, am pretty flexible, but its supposed to be cheap motoring.

[BertieG]

dont get the diahatsu. a friend has one, they are shockingly slow and do not deserve a GTI badge.

[Jordysport]

dont get the diahatsu. a friend has one, they are shockingly slow and do not deserve a GTI badge.

its a Gtti not a gti lol, there not slow 100bhp and very light.

[TypeRDavid]

MG Metro turbo, won't get any more retro than that, Very good A series engine, just get the gearbox uprated though lol.

Much rarer than any of the others and in my eyes a real classic ,such as the 205.;)

http://youtu.be/1vF-Mc_HAXs

[Tommo87]

Civic EF9 roughly 180BHP/tonne, plenty of things available too.

[MiniGibbo]

Are those figures fact, ie the 205 1900 being 148hp per ton?

@Tommo87, good luck even finding a ef9 let alone one this lad could afford ;)

[craig180]

Get an E30 320. You'll have more fun/£ in that than with any of the others mentioned

[MiniGibbo]

Get an E30 320. You'll have more fun/£ in that than with any of the others mentioned

318is*

320's are for little old men with boxes of tissues on the rear parcel shelf :homme:

[craig180]

318is*

320's are for little old men with boxes of tissues on the rear parcel shelf :homme:

320s are cheaper at the moment though ;)

[MiniGibbo]

Theyres good reason for that :P

A good 318is is 3.0-4.5k..

In an ideal world youd want a 320is, mmmm s14 :A:

[craig180]

Theyres good reason for that :P

A good 318is is 3.0-4.5k..

In an ideal world youd want a 320is, mmmm s14 :A:

Are you talking e36 or am I getting my wires crossed???

[MiniGibbo]

e30's..

Wouldbt buy a e36 318is :homme:

Not many people know the 320is, its a italy/portugal only type affair with a midly detuned s14 straight out of the m3.

[MiniGibbo]

For a good read

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=10

[Jordysport]

Are those figures fact, ie the 205 1900 being 148hp per ton?

@Tommo87, good luck even finding a ef9 let alone one this lad could afford ;)

I can afford an 11k car outright, but don't want to spend that tbh, prefer it just to sit there in premium bonds or something, for a rainy day.

BMW's now i can't really afford the insurance on them and it doesn't really float my boat, i quite fancy a small engined turbo'd ie 1.0 > 1.4 Turbo cars

[Jordysport]

Updated with insurance costs. any other ideas?

[Giraffe]

Fiat Uno Turbo?

[BBM]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/3008726.htm

[Jordysport]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/3008726.htm

get that junk off my screen. :homme:

[Giraffe]

Suzuki Cappucino?!

[Gandi699]

those figures seem an awful lot of bhp/tonne for the 205 gti?

[BBM]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3022710.htm

[Jordysport]

Suzuki Cappucino?!

Wow, pretty funky car, loving the 679kg but not loving the 63 hp, but its still 93bhp/ton :y:

[BBM]

Engine's easy to tune in a Cappucino.

[Giraffe]

Turbo'd as well aren't they?

[Jordysport]

those figures seem an awful lot of bhp/tonne for the 205 gti?

130 bhp and the weight is roughly 880kg (some say less some say more)

[0rang3peel]

You hate that mk1 golf, but you are impressed with a suzuki cappucino...

oh gawd.

[Jordysport]

You hate that mk1 golf, but you are impressed with a suzuki cappucino...

oh gawd.

yeah cos there boring, run of the mill etc, if you saw a mk1 golf on the road i wouldn't notice it.

[Mochachino]

Im confused at what you actually want now.

You started off by saying something thats fun to drive that isnt a saxo/106.

Then you want retro, now you want something that catches the eye on the road.

Throwing random figures and prices about lol

All the cars you named are around the sameprice to insure, and if you got 11k for a rainy day insurance difference of £100 for these cars shouldnt be a factor. Id spend £100 more on insurance for a better example of a better car anyday.

Not sure what you want out this thread now tbh lol probs change again in a sec.

[Tommo87]

That crx is nice.

Oh and if that MK1 is the one I'm thinking it is then it's immaculate.

[Mochachino]

Also is it worth paying £2700 to save the miles on your twingo?Is your twingo going to depreciate by £2700 for the miles you would do on this next car?

[0rang3peel]

I'm confused aswel.

It's very rare to see a mk1 golf on the road, it's a proper car enthusiast/drivers car, fair enough if you arn't a fan but getting impressed by a suzuki capposhitto is strange as it meets none of your criteria lol.

Crx is a cool shout

[Vtr_Cam]

When you say retro hot hatch, first thing i think of is a mk1/2 golf.

[Jordysport]

Just want a car thats cheaper to buy than my twingo, around £2000 or less in price to buy and not extortionate insurance. just comparing performance as like anyone else i'd like more performance for the same price.

vtr-cam, the first thing that comes into my head is Lotus Sunbeam.

[0rang3peel]

What about a nova, with some ridiculous engine?

[M1TTJ]

POW job done ;)

all tho maybe a tad over budget!
http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/193714/fs_citroen_visa767.jpg

[M1TTJ]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4025/dsc00081qu.jpg

[tichy]

Old metro 1.3 turbo ftw

[the_mighty_booosh]

Punto Gt

Escort Rst

[dunno]

Mk1 or mk2 Golf Gti?

What's your budget?

Try a mk2 GTi 8v, Good fun to drive in and around town and the mileage isnt a big worry on them.

Plus you can pick up a nice one for about a grand these days!