SAXO TURBO TOP SPEED 160mph

[jaburdas]

a litle test of a great car of portugal.:panic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMKDJtH-0k

[Prickle]

:panic:

[SnakeVTR]

:fcuk:

[sn3ddon]

oh yah fucker :)

[REVO_OTE]

Blimey!

[K17NEY]

Oh my! Listen to that chatter!

[Tontsy]

alright i suppose...

[martyno]

Yes impressive but extremely dangerous. Hope it was just you in the car!

[K17NEY]

Yes impressive but extremely dangerous. Hope it was just you in the car!

Lol, I'd happily go in the passenger seat.:homme:

[Tontsy]

Lol, I'd happily go in the passenger seat.:homme:

id happily go in the drivers seat ;)

[barwell1992]

needs a service ;)

looks fast

[Dyl]

Isnt that kph not mph? Or am i missing something.

[mlawlan69]

it was doing 210kph anyway...

it went way of the clocks as it continued to accelerate

[Chr15]

yeah its in kph

and its not dangerous lol

[Tontsy]

oh aye, good point, its Kph...so its only 130 mph... where on earth did they get 160 from, it clearly wasnt going 160!

[Gareth_R]

Looking at the revs rising, I'd say it makes 240kph which is 150mph

[latza]

imagine doing 160 in a saxo. cant see that felling safe

[Rob_McLav]

that sounds nice!! what power and engine does it have?

[Ross]

need a calendar to measure how "quickly" it got to it's top speed though... :(

Most cammed or TB'd vts's can go off the clock - and probably get there quicker too. I'm guessing that not running that much power?

160mph is fine in a saxo/106. 170mph is where the fun starts ;)

[jpsaxo]

need a calendar to measure how "quickly" it got to it's top speed though... :(

Most cammed or TB'd vts's can go off the clock - and probably get there quicker too. I'm guessing that not running that much power?

160mph is fine in a saxo/106. 170mph is where the fun starts ;)

Lol Ross you nutter!

[Ross]

not to mention the standard speedo is about 10-15% out (reads high) and is only calibrated for it's range of motion. So really (without wanting to look like a cunt to the OP) it's probably doing about 145mph. Get a satnav out for a more reliable test (although even they fuck up at high speeds) :D

I had a 151 out of my gti before it was turbo'd - on gps. 17" wheels y0.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/rossdagley/vlcsnap-2010-01-23-23h29m12s221.png

[Ross]

oh and JP - just finally getting round to sorting the ring photos today mate -sorry it's taken so long - I'll have some up this afternoon :)

[jaburdas]

the car do 8000rpm in 5 gear,the pressor of turbo begin in 0.6 bar,0.8,1, and now are in 1.2,the car is very light,if you put uf turbo in youtube you will see more videos with porches and outhers cars,160mph in gps,300km,the car runs very well at that speed,see with your eyes in outher videos...
bye.

[Prickle]

any pics of the actual car/engine?

bye mate.

[Ross]

the car do 8000rpm in 5 gear,the pressor of turbo begin in 0.6 bar,0.8,1, and now are in 1.2,the car is very light,if you put uf turbo in youtube you will see more videos with porches and outhers cars,160mph in gps,300km,the car runs very well at that speed,see with your eyes in outher videos...
bye.

I'm aware of how light the car is - I have a 800kgs 106 myself, running 2bar of boost ;)

Let me show you a comparison of how it SHOULD accelerate in 5th gear ;)

http://youtu.be/vTGrBHyJPys?hd=1

That was 1.2bar boost last year.

What power is this car making? What engine spec? Turbo etc? As above, do you have any pictures? I'm interested to see :)

[dannygti]

I'm aware of how light the car is - I have a 800kgs 106 myself, running 2bar of boost ;)

Let me show you a comparison of how it SHOULD accelerate in 5th gear ;)

http://youtu.be/vTGrBHyJPys?hd=1

That was 1.2bar boost last year.

What power is this car making? What engine spec? Turbo etc? As above, do you have any pictures? I'm interested to see :)

sorry ross but when was it making 2 bar of boost? on the dyno?

also, no way on earth did you do 151mph before the car was turbo'd dont care if it had 17's or 22's lol.

[Ross]

sorry ross but when was it making 2 bar of boost? on the dyno?

also, no way on earth did you do 151mph before the car was turbo'd dont care if it had 17's or 22's lol.

That screenshot is from an onboard camera with gps overlay. I'm not going to argue with it. Feel free to if you don't like it of course ;)

Boost wise it ran 1.5bar last month on the dyno. I'll be running 2 bar this week when it's remapped.

I also ran 2 bar last year for several months on my old setup.

[jpsaxo]

oh and JP - just finally getting round to sorting the ring photos today mate -sorry it's taken so long - I'll have some up this afternoon :)

Awesome Ross :D

[dannygti]

That screenshot is from an onboard camera with gps overlay. I'm not going to argue with it. Feel free to if you don't like it of course ;)

Boost wise it ran 1.5bar last month on the dyno. I'll be running 2 bar this week when it's remapped.

I also ran 2 bar last year for several months on my old setup.

its not that i dont like it.. if it was true id be over the moon for you.
i know that theres no way a n/a car with under 180hp(at very least) would pull 150mph+ on gps.

ah right, how much power did your 28rs make at 2bar?

i dont see the point of running massive boost unless you are going to use it properly.especially when 400hp+ would most likely be unsuable when driving properly most places (apart form drag)

[titchster]

What were you revving to Ross, to get 151mph N/A? Since the GTi box (on 195/45/15, admittedly) is apparently only geared for 151.9mph if the engine's revving to 7800rpm. 141mph if only revving to the OEM 7200rpm.

[Ross]

That was on the (7250) limiter Titch (205/40/17).

Danny - just to correct myself, I've just been reminded we did actually run 2 bar on the rollers last month - we then dialled it back as we didn't make any more power at 29psi over 26psi due to restrictions on the inlet and exhaust side of things (which are now sorted thankfully).

Power wise we never found out how much we made at 2 bar - we only dyno'd it up to 23psi (then I bottled it!). But about a month before the start of this years build I just maxed it out - 29psi and didn't care if we blew the '28 :p At 23psi we made 283hp. My guess at 29psi would be around 300hp.

RE the top speed stuff - that was on a flat bit of (very very long) road - I have obviously blanked out the photo as got in trouble for posting it the first time round with the full details in, but a bit of use of google should tell you where it was (Hint: GPS co-ords still on photo) ;) It really did make that speed - promise! At least that's what the GPS said.

The GPS unit I use is this:
http://www.blackboxcamera.com/pic-osd/gps_units.htm

[titchster]

Fair enough, does look like it's geared to make that. Pretty surprised you managed to get it to pull right round to the limiter though, since it seems you'd need to actually have kissed the limiter to make that.

[Ross]

Fair enough, does look like it's geared to make that. Pretty surprised you managed to get it to pull right round to the limiter though, since it seems you'd need to actually have kissed the limiter to make that.
Tailwind? ;)

We're having issues with hitting the limiter (7800) in 5th now frequently with the new spec - which is why I've bought a diesel box to play with the FD and 5th gear to see if we can sort that. Time will tell what the results will be but I'm aiming to take part in vmax next year as we missed it this year :(

[prior_vtr]

love the dumpvalve sound

[Ross]

Edited. You know what, I'm over it. Move on :)

[timmythechef]

Tis an impressive video!

[martyno]

yet another thread where ross turns it into all about his car..:clapping:

and you saying you did that speed n/a ross what bullshit that is

Yet another thread where Shaun has a moan and cry at Ross even when completely unprovoked. :clapping:

[Ross]

Back to the OP - do you have the specs etc of the car? Any blog or photos? I'd like to see more :)

[tweeqd]

I'm aware of how light the car is - I have a 800kgs 106 myself, running 2bar of boost ;)


dam thats heavy, perhaps its the weight of them extra 8 valves :homme:

[Ross]

dam thats heavy, perhaps its the weight of them extra 8 valves :homme:

haha :D

One day you'll see the light and get some more valves dude ;) You're just skimping on parts basically - valve guide, cams, all sorts. Tight is what it is ;)

[ChAdS]

160 mph in a saxo? it would fall to bits mate, Impossible!

[Oc2]

160 mph in a saxo? it would fall to bits mate, Impossible!

140... there goes the wings
150... there goes the doors
160... ???

[ChAdS]

I think 160 mark is life

[martyno]

not at all i was making a point,funny thing is other users have noticed how its all about him an his car on other peoples threads...

Well i suppose he does have kind of a cool car tho - wouldn't you? lol Not as good as mine though obv!

[Ross]

It's hard to give an opinion on something without first hand experience - in fact, one shouldn't in my mind...

If you're giving an opinion about something WITH first hand experience, it's frequently because that first hand experience comes from something you own. If you ask about carbon door cards, I'll tell you what ones I've had and like the most. If you talk about the top speed of a 106 or saxo, I'll tell you about what I've had out of mine. :)

Forums would be a pretty dull place if we couldn't comment on our own experiences - and if we cant comment using our own experiences the forum in question would be full of inaccuracies as we'd be guessing :)

This is after all, the nature of a internet forum. Sharing information, getting opinions and discussing peoples experiences.

[Ryan]

Enough of the derailment please ladies.

As for the 106moaners lot if people want to bring arguments onto here from there expect a ban for wrecking treads and constant bitching.

[moita_106]

Sorry for bumping old thread..
This car has more than 1.5 bar boost, with a built gearbox, not 1.5d, it does 380 kph at 8000 rpm, of course it can't reach those speed but it's the final speed of the gearbox.
top speed around 300-305 kph, with nos a little more than 320
The owner says it has been running more than 100k kilometers since the installation without any problem, the reason to make this gearbox is to avoid high rpm launches and consequently avoid engine damage, so he don't need to left the gas pedal and run miles and miles..
Some tests against 911 turbo, r8, civic turbo, just search at youtube (saxo uf)..

[NismoSteve]

Quality bumpage! Just as a side note, my vts which is completely standard aside from a filter, standard wheels and tyres wil go off the clock. At 7200 its showing 135mph.
However. According to GPS its only doing 124 mph. The speedos are so far out above 70 mph its unreal lol!
I'm amazed that my my tired 112k engine happily sat at 6k rpm. Just goes to show how good these engine are.
This was done on a private road btw.

[VinceVTS]

lol fuck that, doin those sort of speeds in a car that folds like a paper bag, no thanks, i loved my saxo but thats just insane hahaha, props to the guy for an epic car though

[mcjacko1987]

Saxo UF turbo vs Honda EV EJ2 Patricio - YouTube
does pull well

[Ali123]

look at this! saxo turbo kotsidas - YouTube

[mcjacko1987]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pKyG37kehhY#!

[e8_pqck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pKyG37kehhY#!

is that his car?

Masive wheelspin in those vids, not much traction in the wet, but its a bit misleading just how quick it is.

[Ross]

Sorry for bumping old thread..
This car has more than 1.5 bar boost, with a built gearbox, not 1.5d, it does 380 kph at 8000 rpm, of course it can't reach those speed but it's the final speed of the gearbox.
top speed around 300-305 kph, with nos a little more than 320
The owner says it has been running more than 100k kilometers since the installation without any problem, the reason to make this gearbox is to avoid high rpm launches and consequently avoid engine damage, so he don't need to left the gas pedal and run miles and miles..
Some tests against 911 turbo, r8, civic turbo, just search at youtube (saxo uf)..

Just re-read this.

I'm sorry, 200mph?

At least keep it believable.

[Gandi699]

Torque steer central. Bet its a hoot though

[moita_106]

Just re-read this.

I'm sorry, 200mph?

At least keep it believable.

yes sir, top speed in this car is 200 mph, in 4th gear does 185 and the 5th just a little more, I'm not playing with you it's true..
the gearbox is not 1.5d, costs to the owner 3000€ to make a custom one


some movies you guys post is not from this saxo, the only one is the race with the honda, I'm gonna put here more for you

[moita_106]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9VVQWOUxUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgIiDS9_zOU
(here the first time racing with just 0.5 bar, you can hear them telling to raise the pressure on regulator)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8BETtPR1XE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hXFFrW4hSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBSmsi4hINc

none of them have the last setup, the first post has the actual setup

[Ross]

yes sir, top speed in this car is 200 mph, in 4th gear does 185 and the 5th just a little more, I'm not playing with you it's true..
the gearbox is not 1.5d, costs to the owner 3000€ to make a custom one


some movies you guys post is not from this saxo, the only one is the race with the honda, I'm gonna put here more for you

Can you/he post a VBOX / datalogger photo, or any kind of proof? Very interested to see this.

[Jamie]

200 MPG IN A SAXO...

Surely it would leave the ground and orbit the sun.

[Jack]

200 MPG IN A SAXO...

Surely it would leave the ground and orbit the sun.

No, that's just economical.

[Jamie]

No, that's just economical.

Obvious typo.

Skimming, hit G instead of H ;).

[Jack]

Obvious typo.

Skimming, hit G instead of H ;).

I guessed, just messing. ;)

[moita_106]

Can you/he post a VBOX / datalogger photo, or any kind of proof? Very interested to see this.

the owner doesn't wan't to show any dyno/gps information, he just said he passed the 300 kmh barrier on gps
in my opinion it has 400hp more or less, but surely close to that
he's builting a supra turbo setup

[Bean]

the owner doesn't wan't to show any dyno/gps information, he just said he passed the 300 kmh barrier on gps
in my opinion it has 400hp more or less, but surely close to that
he's builting a supra turbo setup

Why do all that work, spend all that money, claim such high outputs/speed then not want to show off your figures? That's just retarded and backing everyones susspision that it's a load of lies, tell him to man up and show or gtfo

[RickP]

I used to have a s14a 200sx with just breathing mods and boost controler a few years back (around 220-250bhp) that would do 160mph+ on the clock. Why would a boosted saxo not do the same? (with the right gearing).
Even my current Mini JCW (around 220bhp) does a good 155mph on GPS and i'm sure with a long enough run would creep to 160mph.
You do not need 400bhp for 160mph.

[greyjasper51]

What you prob find is at 7250 with that gearing and rolling tyre circumference it could reach 300kph but the aero drag on the car coupled with the high rpm power means that itll prob hit 150 and then go so slow youll run outta fuel before getting to the 160, its totally possible to do 200mph with that gearing... The diesel box has prob got a final drive of 28-32 mph/1000rpm, and they max out at 4k maybe... So with a boosted vts reving 3-4k higher thats an increase of 90-120 mph over the derv thatll prob do 95-100... Plus the rolling diameter of the wheels... Blah blah blah... Yes its in theory possible in practice youll be running so long to get to 170+ the engjne temps would just start to melt everything...

[RickP]

the owner doesn't wan't to show any dyno/gps information, he just said he passed the 300 kmh barrier on gps
in my opinion it has 400hp more or less, but surely close to that
he's builting a supra turbo setup

Sorry, just realsed your talking about 300kph not 160mph. Yes I too think this would take around 400bhp.

[Ross]

Were not saying it doesnt do 160mph - thats totally possible.

He says it does 200mph, and we're asking for proof :)

My car does 300mph so I don't care what you think. I don't want to post any proof though so you just have to believe me.

[greyjasper51]

Were not saying it doesnt do 160mph - thats totally possible.

He says it does 200mph, and we're asking for proof :)

My car does 300mph so I don't care what you think. I don't want to post any proof though so you just have to believe me.

That was my proof that it wont on a road/track/airfield

[wadoryu]

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108006

This thread disproves all

[chris205]

I'm not sure why people are so bothered tbh, if it does 200mph congrats, however it's not the type of car I'd fancy doing that sort of speed in.

If it's geared to do the speed, it could well do it, however I suspect the aerodynamics will have a large effect on the top speed and doubt a saxo with 400bhp will hit 200mph, maybe 600-700bhp and you'd be on your way

[wadoryu]

For anyone too lazy to read, you'd need a theoretical 456bhp so get to 200mph.
By you're have fun getting there in a saxo lol

[sje00]

Got to admit in full boost mine hits 145 on GPS like a brick wall! Actually throws your head forwards when you hit the limiter.
I've got no doubt it would fly past 170-175 like Ross says.

[RickP]

I don't believe there's a Saxo on this planet that can do 200mph (I would love to be proved wrong!)

[RickP]

I'm not sure why people are so bothered tbh, if it does 200mph congrats, however it's not the type of car I'd fancy doing that sort of speed in.

If it's geared to do the speed, it could well do it, however I suspect the aerodynamics will have a large effect on the top speed and doubt a saxo with 400bhp will hit 200mph, maybe 600-700bhp and you'd be on your way

We were talking about 300kph with around 400bhp NOT 200mph :)

[Ross]

We were talking about 300kph with around 400bhp NOT 200mph :)

yes sir, top speed in this car is 200 mph, in 4th gear does 185 and the 5th just a little more, I'm not playing with you it's true

No, he's claiming 200mph.

Given what MTM had to do to their A1 to get 200mph (from a 2.5l 500bhp 5 pot engine, right down to wheel trims made specifically for top speed/drag reduction), I don't think we'll ever see a 200mph saxo tbh.

[RickP]

No, he's claiming 200mph.

Given what MTM had to do to their A1 to get 200mph (from a 2.5l 500bhp 5 pot engine, right down to wheel trims made specifically for top speed/drag reduction), I don't think we'll ever see a 200mph saxo tbh.

Ok, I'll rephrase. I was talking about 300kph with around 400bhp. Which I made clear in my post! I never said 200mph

[sje00]

300kph - 186mph. I think that's capable, 500bhp, some aero mods, like splitter, flat belly, diffuser, wing mirrors. Reckon you could stretch it.

[Gandi699]

Be interesting to see this, look how much trouble that cosworth had on fifth gear a few years ago and that corolla with 600+ bhp

[e8_pqck]

saxo's are really aerodynamically inefficient with a cd of 0.36, 106's are slightly better at 0.34, so not the best design for a top speed run.

[moita_106]

the owner is not a 20 yo kid, he has 40 yo and doesn't want talk or show on the internet, he just want be undercover and race when get's invited..

a simple saxo with 170/190 bhp can do a little more than 160 mph gps, so it's really impossible that a car with 2x hp do more 25 miles? with nos 40 miles?