How would you remove this.....

[DarylVTR]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/darylrese/drilled2.jpg


Had enough of it now this bolt will come out, problem was my drill wouldnt fit in the gap and the drill bit needed to be sharper and longer. Would you:

Drill it untill the head is removed and extract the thread when bar is out

or.......

drop the whole axel and smack the bolt out .... (im not sure how to do this)

its just getting on my tits now!!! - Ideas please people rlly need to do this

[JohnnyTro]

Is this rear axel/tortion bar ??

[carln]

is it for the torsion bar?

[Scott]

drop the axle, going to have to drill it out now you have royally fucked the head. space is mega tight with that bolt when the axle is on the car, only 4 bolts to drop the axle down

[Scott]

or drop it down and weld a bolt to the bolt and get it off that way

[DarylVTR]

the idea was drop axel out and whack the bolt with hammer and chissle, how do you remove the axel?

The head isnt totally screwed , its still intack around the outside so can still be chissled.


and yes this bolt is holding the torsion bar in

[Scott]

i mean the bit that you would fit even an over size torx in is screwed :P

hammer and chisel would probably work with uber coke and wd40 action the days leading up to it.

4 bolts attach the axle to the car, access them through the rubber/plastic covers in the car

[carln]

its easier to remove the axel, there are 4 bolts that hold the axel on. if you lift up the rear seats and boot carpet you will see 4 black rubber plugs, pull them out and the axel bolts are under them.

[DarylVTR]

sweet is it that easy?

what about all the brake hoses / handbrake cables / calipers etc?


didnt notice these bolts were on the inside! Anywhere near the fuel pump? as i have done this before.

Also if i jack the car up using trolley jacks will it be ok to drop the axel.


Cheers lads very helpful so farr"

[carln]

They are near the fuel pump. it will be ok to drop it with the car on jacks, but it would be better on stands so you can put the jack under the rear axel.
You should just be able to drop the axel enough to get on the bolt without removing all of the cables.

[DarylVTR]

oh really? thats cool , how much should it drop down by then when removing these bolts?

[carln]

If you are not supporting the axel then it will drop straight to the floor. But is best to support it using a trolley jack and then lower the axel down using the jack.

[DarylVTR]

what about all the hoses attached thou?

Technology teacher in school has suggested either to drill the head off and remove the torsion bar or use a stud extractor!?!? but i think it could be too hard to get at using a stud extractor

[Scott]

i would go with hammer and chisel first, last attempt would be to drill the head off it and remove the bar then remove the stud with the bar out

[DarylVTR]

yer i was thinking this aswell bud, cheers for all suggestions so farr lads really helpful

Just 1 thing im unsure of is when i drop the axel down, how farr is it going to drop with all the hoses attached to it? some of the lines are solid metal so i cant see them being very lenient?

[Scott]

once you unbolt the axle its going to hit the floor regardless of whats attached to it, its quite a heavy fucker. When we dropped mine off we couldnt be fucked removing the brake pics and shit, we just dropped it down and shuffled it to the side enough to get access then proceeded to beat the living piss out of the bars until they came out

[DarylVTR]

lol cool

Im really trying to avoid dropping the axel down if i can help it as i dont have a decent trolley jack and doing it on my own could prove hard?!?

So i should if i have to drop the axel down it should be ok for all the hoses to go with it!? i might borrow the tools off a mate and do it myself,

how long did it take you scott?

[Scott]

on my vtr it took nearly 13 hours on a freezing day <brrr>

[DarylVTR]

13hrs?!!??! fuckin hell why so long

[Scott]

various tea brakes, faffing around with forged pistons and other cars that were there, bars were rusted to fucked so we went for dinner then came back before carrying on

[DarylVTR]

ah ok so the process itself wasnt too timew consuming but i think it will be impossible to do on my own!

[DarylVTR]

i could just buy a long drill bit and drill this bugger out.......maybe?

[Scott]

you could do. I wouldnt fancy doing it on my own but it wouldnt be that hard with a decent trolley jack holding the axle in place, unbolt it then lower the jack down

[DarylVTR]

1 jack isnt going to hold a whole axel is it?!!?!?!?

[Scott]

lol if i can lift the whole axel then a 2 tonne trolley jack can hold it:P

[DarylVTR]

lol what im saying is the axel is long so 1 trolly jack wouldnt support it both sides?

By the way scott good rep to your sir for all your help so farr ;)

[DarylVTR]

any1 else wanna put their 2 pence in?

[DarylVTR]

just had a very good idea, hopefully it will work

I have a new tube of tiger seal in my garage i could bond a nut onto the bolt and let it set overnight and then try and use a socket on it?!!?!?

That should do it ive never know an adhesive so strong.... no harm in trying?

[Scott]

no way in hell will it work mate, it might be a strong bond but not that strong. Only thing that would hold in that kind of situation would be a weld

[DarylVTR]

its wirth a try i recon

[Amiee]

a hammer n chisel would be my answer, and id end up with no car....

[saxo_vtr1234]

oxasetaline that will sort it out lol

[DarylVTR]

ok my theory isnt even worth it lol wont bother with that!

had a good look at the axel and it doesnt look hard atall to drop out and hoses look like they are all connected on the axel beam so shouldnt really harm


Will give it a go soon. Bolt will be easily accessable then