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wadoryu
27th September 2011, 08:34
There seems to be a lot of people "doing" boost conversions lately. how many do you think will go through with it?
Manu
27th September 2011, 08:35
how long is a piece of string.
Mochachino
27th September 2011, 08:36
7. How many do you think?
Manu
27th September 2011, 08:38
about 12
Mochachino
27th September 2011, 08:40
about 12
Yeh. I suppose you could be right.
Manu
27th September 2011, 08:40
10 for good measure, let's not get too optimistic.
Mochachino
27th September 2011, 08:41
Well im going to say 9 before anyone else does.
moxy89
27th September 2011, 08:42
8... my parts are going, however getting bored of not driving it.....
wadoryu
27th September 2011, 08:43
well i honestly think very few 2 if that will go through with it after they realize the amount of effort needed tbh
moxy89
27th September 2011, 08:54
not effort!! cost is a issue!!
dannygti
27th September 2011, 09:05
not effort!! cost is a issue!!
Cost + effort.
Sadly people do not realise what is involved inaking it all work.
J222JRA
27th September 2011, 09:12
45% will
moxy89
27th September 2011, 09:12
Yeah dont get me wrong! effort is a big factor, however nothing like cost!!! if you want a decent setup anyway
wadoryu
27th September 2011, 09:13
exactly that's why I made the thread, i honestly don't see the point of boosting a saxo. just keep it na running quite high power. once you start boosting you can get better cars for the money imo
J222JRA
27th September 2011, 09:14
You drive a Suzuki Swift that squeaks......... anything you say on here is totally irrelevant.
dannygti
27th September 2011, 09:16
exactly that's why I made the thread, i honestly don't see the point of boosting a saxo. just keep it na running quite high power. once you start boosting you can get better cars for the money imo
Hold on...
What do you class as high power n/a?
I'm guessing you've never been in a decent turbo 106/Saxo?
wadoryu
27th September 2011, 09:23
You drive a Suzuki Swift that squeaks......... anything you say on here is totally irrelevant.
ahhh you see james it doesn't anymore ;)
Hold on...
What do you class as high power n/a?
I'm guessing you've never been in a decent turbo 106/Saxo?
150+ nope never
Tontsy
27th September 2011, 09:25
id say 2.6 :A:
dannygti
27th September 2011, 09:26
I suppose it's all opinion.
I'd class high power n/a as 185hp+ at very least.
Also, there is night and day difference between a high power n/a car and boosted.
For me even though my conversion took much more effort than 90% of conversions it's still been 100% worth it
moxy89
27th September 2011, 09:29
agree... Ryans is a high powered NA car as was tufftys... running 186..
casper123
27th September 2011, 09:30
wicked
Tontsy
27th September 2011, 09:31
wicked
spambot . . .:A:
mangojace
27th September 2011, 09:32
id say 2 and a 1/2 people will go through with these turbo conversions tbh
moxy89
27th September 2011, 09:33
once i get a gearbox i can go and get some bits sorted. mangojace to the rescue
Tontsy
27th September 2011, 09:34
i might boost the Leon . . .
moxy89
27th September 2011, 09:35
exactly that's why I made the thread, i honestly don't see the point of boosting a saxo. just keep it na running quite high power. once you start boosting you can get better cars for the money imo
also you say boost a car you could buy something better, car i ask what you spent on your car, as i can 100% be certain there is better cars out there!!! Its the fun factor of you building a mental car that makes others look very silly!!!
mangojace
27th September 2011, 09:39
once i get a gearbox i can go and get some bits sorted. mangojace to the rescue
thanks mate :D
LeeM
27th September 2011, 09:39
14.7 of them
Tontsy
27th September 2011, 09:41
wunmillium!
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 09:59
Dreamers won't, and sadly most the people you'll meet are dreamers..
LSOfreak
27th September 2011, 10:25
you get so many people who talk out their arse and say theyre doing this and that. nearly all my mates do it. I like to think i usually do what i say im going to do. i do remember at one point last year planning to 'boost' my saxo though. was only going to be a cheap basic conversion with 2nd hand parts, priced it up to about £1500 worth of parts. The problem started when trying to find someone to do the conversion for me. atspeed were quite expensive and most other people wouldnt do it :(
so now ive put the money aside for my next car/project ;)
Ross
27th September 2011, 10:44
you get so many people who talk out their arse and say theyre doing this and that. nearly all my mates do it. I like to think i usually do what i say im going to do. i do remember at one point last year planning to 'boost' my saxo though. was only going to be a cheap basic conversion with 2nd hand parts, priced it up to about £1500 worth of parts. The problem started when trying to find someone to do the conversion for me. atspeed were quite expensive and most other people wouldnt do it :(
so now ive put the money aside for my next car/project ;)
Northern Racing will do it for ya.
14.7 of them
I see what ya did there. ;)
Stissy
27th September 2011, 11:08
if its done right then its fantastic, but cars that small shouldn't be boosted unless people really put the effort into it, it definitely takes the car away from being a daily drive
in responce to OP, i think 2 people will :y:
Tontsy
27th September 2011, 11:14
i heard that OP was going to boost his car . . . :detective:
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 11:27
Northern Racing will do it for ya.
I see what ya did there. ;)
For arguments sake how much would "northern racing" charge Joe bloggs off the street to turbo his vtr to 200hp and/or his vts to 250/300 hp??
LSOfreak
27th September 2011, 11:33
For arguments sake how much would "northern racing" charge Joe bloggs off the street to turbo his vtr to 200hp and/or his vts to 250/300 hp??
was going to ask the same thing. if i supplied everything lets say?
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 11:36
was going to ask the same thing. if i supplied everything lets say?
Surely if your paying a firm to do it you'd want them to supply the parts other wise they wont guarantee the build.
Ross
27th September 2011, 12:16
Titch (Northern Racing) just charges an hourly rate in the workshop. We (he) don't do "conversions" as such at the moment - it's presumed you have done your own research etc.
The best idea is to get a list of parts you need, try and get AS MUCH as possible (right down to buying lengths of pipe/hose etc) and taking the car and parts to him. I'd say it's possible to do a conversion, with all the parts supplied, in a weekend. Then it'd just need mapping. :) He'd do all the fabrication, welding, fitting etc.
Titch has built a couple of turbo'd 106's/saxo's since mine (and had done 2 complete builds before mine). He works like a mofo speed wise, so I think it's something that could happen quickly - and obviously that's what you want if you're paying by the hour.
Best bet if you're serious about asking the question is to drop him an email - titch@northernracing.net :)
ryanmt
27th September 2011, 12:22
pfft saxos are easy to boost, loads of room and you can even buy adapter plates for the BE box!
Sophia_Bush
27th September 2011, 12:29
who have we got on here thats actually going through a boost conversion ie gathering parts atm? I am going to say pretty much none of them will finish it
Mieran
27th September 2011, 12:42
I find it funny when people claim they're going to build a turbo car then all you see them buy is the intercooler and dump valve or some other shit that should come last.
First thing I would do is find a manifold and turbo
dannygti
27th September 2011, 13:08
I find it funny when people claim they're going to build a turbo car then all you see them buy is the intercooler and dump valve or some other shit that should come last.
First thing I would do is find a manifold and turbo
Thank god someones said that..
WAY too Many people on here with "turbo project" as they have a a picture of a dump valve at their nans....
Ross
27th September 2011, 13:30
It's all about the dump valve.
Or the nan.
I forget.
LSOfreak
27th September 2011, 13:54
Surely if your paying a firm to do it you'd want them to supply the parts other wise they wont guarantee the build.
no becuase on a budget build and me being a tight arse, id be quite happy with 2nd hand parts
Prickle
27th September 2011, 14:18
You drive a Suzuki Swift that squeaks with stripes......... anything you say on here is totally irrelevant.
ahahahah
Ive read a few and not many by the looks of it have went all the way.
They buy quite a few bits, than fuck it. I mean wut!? you spend all that money to decide nah not worth it?
i also rofl at the lists
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list done, pmsl. actually decide if you want to do it rather asw all them bits tbh.
I wouldnt personally do it as its quite costly imo. and its sourcing parts than getting them fitted by a decent chap, than mapping, than what if something fucks up... nightmare.
Ross
27th September 2011, 14:33
than what if something fucks up... nightmare.
thats the expensive bit :p
Quick
27th September 2011, 15:07
http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmps/shops/statesidecandy/images/british-cadbury-s-boost-duo-chocolate-bars-case-of-32-bars-1100-p.jpg
Is as close as some get.....
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 16:01
no becuase on a budget build and me being a tight arse, id be quite happy with 2nd hand parts
Yer but as an example you could spend thosuands on parts, tens of hours putting it togther for it all to melt becuase someone maps it wrong?
Not there fault as they didnt fit/supply the parts..
Ross
27th September 2011, 16:07
What's mapping it wrong got to do with fitting the parts (or using second hand parts)?
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 16:10
Would northern racing garanutee a build that they didnt build them selves, that was built using second hand parts and they only mapped it?
Thaught not...
And mapping as you probably know better than my self, if you run it lean or massively rich your not going to do it any favours..
So in turn dodgey map = fucked engine.
Ross
27th September 2011, 16:17
Northern Racing dont map. They can build a car with whatever parts the customer wants though. If one of those parts breaks, the customer knows he bought it himself, or took the risk on a second hand part.
All mapping for Northern Racing is carried out by Race Engine Calibrations (Steve Greenald). Generally regarded as one of the best engine mappers in the UK. He doesn't make dodgy maps thankfully!
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 16:24
Northern Racing dont map. They can build a car with whatever parts the customer wants though. If one of those parts breaks, the customer knows he bought it himself, or took the risk on a second hand part.
All mapping for Northern Racing is carried out by Race Engine Calibrations (Steve Greenald). Generally regarded as one of the best engine mappers in the UK. He doesn't make dodgy maps thankfully!
Thats my point about supplying the parts your self, if the customer does it then the company has no responablilitys for them.
Im not saying who does or doesent map badly, my point was mainly about saving your self a few coins now can cost you in the long run as if it all went tits up its the customer who'd loose out having bought all the bits with no comback if you see what i mean.
LSOfreak
27th September 2011, 17:32
the price difference between sourcing individual parts yourself from forums, and getting a company to supply everything is huge! ofcourse doing a cheap build will have more risk of partrs breaking. As with everything. its not like you wont buy any 2nd hand parts for a car due to the risk of the part fucking up and you not being able to go back to a company to point fingers at
blackie_2k5
27th September 2011, 18:31
there's an influx phase every year, usually lasts a couple of months, this year seems to have alot of takers, but some stuff has already passed through the sales section a couple of times this year already
i think its good tbh, makes good parts cheaper for the ppl who really do/can boost their car :y:
MiniGibbo
27th September 2011, 18:32
I suppose it all coems down to budget at the end of the day, wed all like a blank check build but to most of us thats just not viable so corners have to be cut.
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