Accident...Who is at fault?

[Sophie123]

Has a little bump in my car today...its kinda hard to explain so i wipped up a diagram on paint.

Would you say the black box on the diagram is at fault, or the blue?

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/SophieP_123/untitled-2.jpg

[Moke]

Both...

[saxoboy91]

Hard to decide by the drawing mate, if black was already moving and blue pulled out infront/behind it then blue.

If blue was already moving then black for going into the side of it.

Well thats what I would think anyway but I may be wrong.

Think it needs a bit more explaining though mate :y:

[ajdsaxo]

You...

[Prickle]

first of all, you're no pr0 on paint.

Both..

[Sophie123]

Ok more of an explanation...

I am in the Black car.
I am reversing out of my space.
I do my usual check behind and to to both sides...nothing else moving.
All of a sudden...Bang.

Blue pulled out of their space (forwards) and the middle of the back of my bumper went into their drivers side wing.
Blues space is in my blind spot while reversing.

Any more info needed?

[haz_pro]

Equal fault. Even if the blue car came out first, and then the black car went into it, unless there is CCTV this wouldnt be proven.

EDIT: Just read your update, I would say it will be put to equal fault i imagine.

[Sophie123]

I was thinking equal or his...the picture isnt properly to scale, i was waaaay more out of my space than he was his...he just got in his car and drove (the exit is straight ahead for him) without looking around.

He wants to get quotes for me to fix his car...should i tell him to fix his own and ill fix mine?

He needs a new wing & i need a new rear bumper.

[saxoboy91]

Ah well looks like I was wrong lol

I thought it might have been the black as it went into the side of the car.

What would happen with insurance if it was equal fault ?

[Prickle]

I was thinking equal or his...the picture isnt properly to scale, i was waaaay more out of my space than he was his...he just got in his car and drove (the exit is straight ahead for him) without looking around.

He wants to get quotes for me to fix his car...should i tell him to fix his own and ill fix mine?

He needs a new wing & i need a new rear bumper.

What car does he have?

[ryanmt]

somebody at work did the exact same thing last week, went 50/50

[Sophie123]

I reversed into their wing because they pulled out behind me while i was reversing.

The back of their car was level with the tip of the line for their space, i was well over a cars distance away from the tip of the line to my space...if that makes sense!

[Sophie123]

What car does he have?

His car is an 05 1.4 civic...with 'P' plates.

EDIT: His dent could probably be pulled out, no chips in the paintwork or anything.

[nicole_]

whoever pulled out last id say is at fault, but i think reversing cars should give way to everything else anyway

[jw1325]

The Honda Driver ... cause they are all Cunts

[Sophie123]

i think reversing cars should give way to everything else anyway

I thought this...but then since i was the one reversing...there was no way i could have seen him until the moment we hit.
As he pulled out forwards, he would have seen me already revrsing if he had looked...

[LouisUK]

It would be 50/50 if it was an insurance claim i would of thought.

[saxowebby]

50/50 mate

[Sophie123]

Thanks everyone...i was worrying that it might be me because i was reversing.

Now to find a way of asking the other party if he wants to fix his & ill fix mine before going through insurance!
Small problem of the language barrier though :-/

[Nathan-HxC]

Hard to tell without any of us being there, I'd say it was equal as it seemed both of you weren't cautious enough to keep a look out for other cars pulling out, it's a car park, it's what you should expect.

I'd try to settle it out of insurance though, the damages can't be that bad surely?

[jw1325]

Small problem of the language barrier though :-/

he is now automatically in the wrong if he can't speak English

[Sophie123]

I need a new bumper, paint chipped and slight crease...
He needs a new wing/dent pulling out of his wing.

Id be ok with not using insurance, my excess is £500 and its not gonna cost me that to replace my bumper.
But from what little conversation i got out of the guy, he was expecting me to fix his car like its my fault...but like i said, he spoke very little english so would be less complicated to go through insurance...

[Sophie123]

he is now automatically in the wrong if he can't speak English

I never said that at all.

I meant he doesnt speak English very well so it will be difficult comunicating to him that it would probably be more beneficial to both of us to fix ourselves rather than going through insurance.

Jeeeez uptight much.

[Prickle]

I never said that at all.

I meant he doesnt speak English very well so it will be difficult comunicating to him that it would probably be more beneficial to both of us to fix ourselves rather than going through insurance.

Jeeeez uptight much.

shes just knarked the new owners are having secks in her old gti. :hug:

[Nathan-HxC]

I need a new bumper, paint chipped and slight crease...
He needs a new wing/dent pulling out of his wing.

Id be ok with not using insurance, my excess is £500 and its not gonna cost me that to replace my bumper.
But from what little conversation i got out of the guy, he was expecting me to fix his car like its my fault...but like i said, he spoke very little english so would be less complicated to go through insurance...

Is the crease in the bumper or the bodywork?

I'm guessing you've got his contact details, drop him a call asking to save hassle and just worry about each other's own damage?

[Sophie123]

Crease is in the bumper.
Yea i have his phone number and he lives in the same apartment complex as i do.

He speaks very little English from the little i have spoken to him so far.

Im stressing out a bit though because he said to me 'not insurance' so i think he doesnt want to use insurance...but i think he wants me to pay for his damage, which i wont do.

Im going on holiday on Sunday, and i dont want to not tell my insurance incase he tells his...but then, he might not tell them thinking im going to pay for his, then when he finds out im not, tell his insurance.
Or he might agree to each pay our own...but i dont know how to communicate this to him.

If i tell my insurance will it 100% have to go through them as soon as they are aware?

[Sophie123]

he is now automatically in the wrong if he can't speak English

I never said that at all.

I meant he doesnt speak English very well so it will be difficult comunicating to him that it would probably be more beneficial to both of us to fix ourselves rather than going through insurance.

Jeeeez uptight much.

Ive just read that again and maybe im the uptight one?

You could have meant it in a none sarcastic/automatically taken offense way. :fcuk:

Im confused!

[Nathan-HxC]

Crease is in the bumper.
Yea i have his phone number and he lives in the same apartment complex as i do.

He speaks very little English from the little i have spoken to him so far.

Im stressing out a bit though because he said to me 'not insurance' so i think he doesnt want to use insurance...but i think he wants me to pay for his damage, which i wont do.

Im going on holiday on Sunday, and i dont want to not tell my insurance incase he tells his...but then, he might not tell them thinking im going to pay for his, then when he finds out im not, tell his insurance.
Or he might agree to each pay our own...but i dont know how to communicate this to him.

If i tell my insurance will it 100% have to go through them as soon as they are aware?

Ahh that's alright then, only a bumper :y:
Just say to him if he doesn't want to go through insurance then the only way to settle it is to sort your own damages out, if he is adamant that you fix it just threaten to claim off his insurance as it was him at fault for not paying attention considering he had a full field of view as he was going straight forward.

Can't imagine he'd be happy with that if he's a new driver (P plates?) and will settle!

[Prickle]

if there wasnt anyone else/cctv in the carpark to witness it and no white marks on his car from yours, theres fuck all he can to tbf? :D

ignore him.

[dt_]

If it goes down to insurance then it'll be 50/50 no questions asked insurance companies love this. I'd pay outside of insurance for your own damage and he would be better off doin this. How much of your details has he got? Was there any witnesses? When he says 'no insurance' it might mean that he does not have any

[wicked-vtr]

We all know in reality it was his fault, you where already moving and he tried to quickly dash behind you even though he had full view. If insurance will go that way is a different matter.

Don't pay him though, coming over here, taking our jobs ect ect

[MartiVtr]

Obviously not sticking to rules of the road either ... Mirror Signal Manoevre :A:

[Prickle]

Don't pay him though, coming over here, taking our jobs ect ect

opened a can of worms there boi

[RDKells]

whoever pulled out last id say is at fault, but i think reversing cars should give way to everything else anyway

It's easier to see things that are coming towards you. I.e if you are going forwards, he evidently wasn't looking at the time. Sounds like a moron to me, I'd be suing him for whiplash aswell :)

[Mr_X]

Does he have insurance????

[RDKells]

Does he have insurance????

Bwahaha, nice one :P

[Sophie123]

I checked on the ask mid website and his car is showing as insured.

The details we swapped we're just reg no and took pics of the cars. He lives at no 23 in the apartment block, I live at 15, and we swapped phone numbers.

I have just been home and taken a picture of the car park, I'll upload it in a sec.

[Sophie123]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/SophieP_123/be50fac2.jpg

My car is the white car at the top.
His car is the dark silver one in 23 at the bottom.

I had reversed down to be with the rear of my car past the edge of number 11.

The other guy pulled straight forward.

[Prickle]

pmsl.

he did the "oh shit i didnt mean to pull the clutch up" fail and done so hes went into you imo

[Mr_X]

My car is the white car at the top.
His car is the dark silver one in 23 at the bottom.

I had reversed down to be with the rear of my car past the edge of number 11.

The other guy pulled straight forward.

wtf, is he blind? so he drove straight into you whilst you reversed?

[logic_guy]

I would say their fault

Assuming there are other cars parked next to you, you wouldn't get a good vision down the isle of the car park to see if you can carry on reversing. I assume you slowly reversed out while looking all around you?

The other guy would had seen a car moving, would had seen the reverse lights and thre back end of your car starting to stick out.

It would be no different if the car reversing out in front of him was a kid running into the road.

[Rudpud]

It's easier to see things that are coming towards you. I.e if you are going forwards, he evidently wasn't looking at the time. Sounds like a moron to me, I'd be suing him for whiplash aswell :)

No, are you Amerian? Theres no need for it and doing that is exactly the reason insurance prices are so high.

Imo, tell the foreign prick its his fault as you was moving first.

[Sophie123]

Wasn't a fast enough accident for whiplash, plus I'm not into false claims.
The momentum in the accident was all my car.

I was reversing at a normal speed, checking all 3 of my mirrors as I always do.

Cars and vans often come into the car park (only way in and out is bottom left on the picture) so I know to be careful.

There were cars parked in 11,12 and 14, no others across the top where my car is, and 1 car on the other side of his car which is empty in the pic.

I found a clip from my bumper about a foot away from space 11 in the direction of the exit.

[Mr_X]

so, he was stationary?

[Sophie123]

No he was moving, but he was moving in a way that would have caused scratches so the dents came from my momentum.

[cyne]

His fault looking at that picture and your diagram. He pulled out in front of you and you hit him, when I reverse down a road past a junction I don't stop and let people out. You probably wouldn't question it if you where going forward. Is it on cctv?

Though how you didn't see him I do not know, guessing c pillar blocked your vision of him or you are one of these people who can't reverse for shit and use there mirrors instead of turning around and looking out the back window.

[Sophie123]

My car does have big c pillars and large blind spots.

I was using my mirrors, but even if I had been looking out of the back I still wouldn't have seen him because he would have been behind me.

[Mr_X]

why not just leave it,he repairs his, if you can be arsed repair yours.

[cyne]

My car does have big c pillars and large blind spots.

I was using my mirrors, but even if I had been looking out of the back I still wouldn't have seen him because he would have been behind me.

Need cctv to prove anything really, he could have been there for quite some time but you didn't see him as you where checking your passenger side mirror in order to not hit the car in bay 11.

[Sophie123]

I don't want to risk him telling his insurance and me getting in trouble for not telling mine.

I would be bothered to fix it! My car is my baby!

[Rudpud]

Surprised no one has come out with, its your fault, you're the female :P

[Sophie123]

The CCTV is only on the entrance/exit to the car park.

The door to my apartment is by the edge of the line for space 24.
I have to walk over where the bump happened to get to my car so he hadn't been sat there ages.

[cyne]

Surprised no one has come out with, its your fault, you're the female :P

Was just about to get that :(.

Oh well, I would just do what you said and just suggest that we both fix our own cars and avoid the hassle and cost of insurance. If hes english is that bad then get his friend/partner/family to translate or something.

[Rob-6]

I would ring my insurance and tell them that he ran into you which he did as you were moving 1st

[Sophie123]

My only problem with that is that his car can't travel sideways...the damage to his car is on the drivers wing.

[Sophie123]

Grrr I'm so annoyed!
I've just been round this blokes flat.

His stance is...I hit him, I pay to fix his car.

Not a chance.

We have agreed to go tomorrow to get quotes, if he doesn't pay for his own, or half of the total bill, it will be going through insurance.

It's such a pain in the ass though, I'm going on holiday on Sunday so only have tomorrow to look at sorting it!

[Nathan-HxC]

Sounds like a tosser tbh.

I don't get why he's willing higher premiums for the sake of replacing a wing? :S

[Prickle]

Grrr I'm so annoyed!
I've just been round this blokes flat.

His stance is...I hit him, I pay to fix his car.

Not a chance.

We have agreed to go tomorrow to get quotes, if he doesn't pay for his own, or half of the total bill, it will be going through insurance.

It's such a pain in the ass though, I'm going on holiday on Sunday so only have tomorrow to look at sorting it!

if nobody seen it etc like i said, id ignore the fag. ;)

just repair yours sharpish and voila...

[Moke]

if nobody seen it etc like i said, id ignore the fag. ;)

just repair yours sharpish and voila...

What a faggot thing to say... :homme:

[blackie_2k5]

What a faggot thing to say... :homme:

i think he did it^^^

[Prickle]

What a faggot thing to say... :homme:

it would be a nightmare, the lass knows it herself.

either ignoring the cunt and doing a ninja repair and carrying on or fucking about for months on end with insurance, with a fella that cant speak propealltye..

what would you do? i know what i would do...

[Moke]

it would be a nightmare, the lass knows it herself.

either ignoring the cunt and doing a ninja repair and carrying on or fucking about for months on end with insurance, with a fella that cant speak propealltye..

what would you do? i know what i would do...

Yeah and then when you find out you've been spotted on camera and you've ignored the dude?

Just as bad as being spotted doing a hit and run.

OP, just go through the normal procedure, don't just "ignore it", unless the other party agree to.

[Sophie123]

I know for a fact that there are no cameras at the back.
My problem is he lives in the same block, ignoring him isn't an option. Fix my car and then he might just damage it again.
Plus I couldn't do anything quickly as I'm on holiday from Sunday.

Really peed me off that he is saying he won't go 50/50.

I hit him so my fault as far as he is concerned, but had he been going a fraction faster, or me for that matter, it would have been his front end and my rear quarter.
It's both of our faults. We should have seen each other.

[Prickle]

Yeah and then when you find out you've been spotted on camera and you've ignored the dude?

Just as bad as being spotted doing a hit and run.

OP, just go through the normal procedure, don't just "ignore it", unless the other party agree to.

lol mike.




lol mike.

I know for a fact that there are no cameras at the back.

Really peed me off that he is saying he won't go 50/50.

I hit him so my fault as far as he is concerned, .

op said theres no cameras :detective:

its a sticky situation Sophie. just say, fuck it, we will sort it our selfs and carry on. end of story. if he says no. just say. sssh mate.

[Moke]

lol mike.




lol mike.



op said theres no cameras :detective:

its a sticky situation Sophie. just say, fuck it, we will sort it our selfs and carry on. end of story. if he says no. just say. sssh mate.

One word.............

Cunt :homme:

[blackie_2k5]

doesnt matter what he sais, your word against his, just tell him that

then tell him insurance will also settle it 50/50 and so youll both lose you NCB, best to just take it on the chin and get it fixed,

if he doesnt see sense and do that, have one of your mates burn his car out, then when you see him, just smile and say "see, youve not got a full payout, an can get a new car "

then walk away laughing :y:

[Prickle]

One word.............

Cunt :homme:

LOL.

mike srsly, are your wheels declared? Cunt.. ;)

fucking irony eh...

doesnt matter what he sais, your word against his, just tell him that



andy knows it.

budweiser/calrsberg ftw.

[Moke]

LOL.

mike srsly, are your wheels declared? Cunt.. ;)

fucking irony eh...



LFMAO, fucking got me there! :detective:

I mean, of course they are declared :homme:

[Prickle]

LFMAO, fucking got me there! :detective:

I mean, of course they are declared :homme:

HAHAHA. :kiss:

[Moke]

HAHAHA. :kiss:

Taxi for Moke!

[Prickle]

Taxi for Moke!

il order you a merc one...

cant be ordering a kia for our moke.

[Sophie123]

Well I personally feel like I have been more than fair to say he can choose if we repair our separate cars, or pool the bill and split it 50/50.

My mom seems to think if he won't agree to split I should just pay...I'd rather cut my nose off to spite my face and make him lose his excess and any ncb.
My ncb is protected so I don't really care.

[blackie_2k5]

lmao @ the crack, serioulsey though sophie, it sounds like IMO, neither one of you were paying any attention at all :fcuk:

but dont let him bully you, thats what he wants, just tell him to get fucked, he run into you and thats your story :y:

explain my previous post to him, if he still doesnt aggree to it, then go through ins, but dont admit anything, stick to your story, least if hes a cock youll both suffer rather then just you :y:

EDIT- if your protected then your in even better position, tell him to get fucked, itll go knock for knock anyway :y:

[Sophie123]

Well, the plan for tomorrow is to get quotes for how much it will cost to fix both...then if he still refuses to split the bill...insurance it is.
I'm so flipping angry!!

[johnr32]

Why was you reversing for so long...you had about 5-10m of space so should of turned the car around and not drive in reverse, TBH from the pictures it looks like a very simple situation and someone could of easily avoided this mess. I really do think its your fault, insurance being the idiots they are would probably disagree with me and say 50/50

[Prickle]

I'm so flipping angry!!

i think a night in the sheets (and a few tins) will sort it out for the night. ;)

let us know how you get on though... (srsly)

[Moke]

i think a night in the sheets (and a few tins) will sort it out for the night. ;)

let us know how you get on though... (srsly)

Tinnies FTW!

[Sophie123]

Why was you reversing for so long...you had about 5-10m of space so should of turned the car around and not drive in reverse, TBH from the pictures it looks like a very simple situation and someone could of easily avoided this mess. I really do think its your fault, insurance being the idiots they are would probably disagree with me and say 50/50

it's not really long to reverse down there...it's either reverse to the bottom where it's open and turn there, or do a 5 point turn when there are cars parked either side.

[Prickle]

Tinnies FTW!

mokes after my heart...

actually i gave you one.

[Mochachino]

How tight is your turning circle on your Swift, even my car could do it in less than 5 turns!

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/SophieP_123/be50fac2.jpg

Also, he drove straight forward, so basically he drove into your line, if you had been driving forward would he have still driven straight out and into you. If I see someone reversing or moving I let them get on with it, I dont randomly drive into their obvious path theyre going to drive. The guys a fool and needs glasses. But you also could have easily turned around in that area, it was jut more conveinient for you to reverse all the way.

[Moke]

mokes after my heart...

actually i gave you one.

Gave me what?! :wacko:

[Prickle]

Gave me what?! :wacko:

:homme:

see my wall you homo.

replied.

[Sophie123]

Yes it probably is more convenient for me to reverse all the way, can't really start turning until I'm in like with no14 or I would scuff my alloys on the curb.

He did drive straight into the path I was clearly taking, I have checked and my reverse lights definitely work.

I don't think he looked before pulling out. The exit is straight ahead so I think he just got in the car and went.

Another reason he peed me off is because he obviously thinks I am a new driver as he said 'how long drive for' and seemed shocked when I said 7 years!

[mcjacko1987]

id go threw insurance as your ncb is protected. stick to the story of it being his fault and that you was moving first, and just stick to your story. get in there before he does seriously or it will just be you who pays and not that none English speaking twat. never know he mite have already spoke to insurance and hes stringing you along so you dont claim then insurance will see that your taking the blame.
foreigners are sly as fuck with situations like this, they know how to play the system. dont let him do it.

[Prickle]

Yes it probably is more convenient for me to reverse all the way, can't really start turning until I'm in like with no14 or I would scuff my alloys on the curb.

He did drive straight into the path I was clearly taking, I have checked and my reverse lights definitely work.

I don't think he looked before pulling out. The exit is straight ahead so I think he just got in the car and went.

Another reason he peed me off is because he obviously thinks I am a new driver as he said 'how long drive for' and seemed shocked when I said 7 years!

dont let him push you over... etc etc rawr.

just keep it right.

end of the day he literally drove into a reversing car LOL.

only a fucktard would do that.

a car thats reversing, il press on and ram the cunt.

hes at fault. end.

[sebring]

/insurance will just be more hastle imo

[Moke]

paki vs woman - and look what happend :homme:

luff you sophie

ps

drop him

Reported.

No need for that sebring.

[Prickle]

lol moke

/sober post

[Moke]

lol moke

/sober post

What a cunt though.

Blatent racism doesn't go far on Sax-P tbh.

[cyne]

How much is it going to costtttttttttt

[sebring]

What a cunt though.

Blatent racism doesn't go far on Sax-P tbh.

LOL! 21st centuary for you enitt? You mention 'racism' yet not 'sexism' - both as bad as each other imo.

For something to be racist it has to be discriminating to a person in particular. Racism is say, punching a black person for the colour of his skin etc. Not a word.

For all you know I could be from indian descent or even female.

Also note the time of post and it being friday night/sat morning, you could of put 2 and 2 together and assumed that I waasnt exactly sober - if you had you would of been correct.


As for being a 'grass', you moke, have lost respect points from me.

kool x

[Sophie123]

Well, today I have been to a bodyshop, they said I need A new bumper, and that the brackets for the bumper are twisted but could be straightened.

The other car needs a new wing, front bumper & light.
The bloke is also trying to claim that I damaged his alloy.

We will receive the quotes by Tuesday, but I am going to Ibiza tomorrow so can't do anything until I am back.

I have called my insurance company to notify them so that If this bloke calls his insurance, mine are already aware.

I also noticed today that this blokes rear light is selotaped on and his rear bumper is hanging off! He is clearly not a great driver!
He also took his 'P' plate off for some reason.
Left the sticky smudge there though.

He is being really pushy saying he wants it fixed ASAP. At the bodyshop he was pushing the bloke for an idea of price even though they had a power cut & couldn't use their computers for parts prices!
He suggested speaking again tonight, I said no because we don't have any more information!

[baker556]

]I reversed into their wing because they pulled out behind me while i was reversing.[/B]

The back of their car was level with the tip of the line for their space, i was well over a cars distance away from the tip of the line to my space...if that makes sense!

Tbh you've kind of admitted liablilty here, although after looking at the picture and what you have said and everyone i could say it was his fault but more likely go for 50/50.

Please don't put this down in the insurance document, as you have to draw a picture write detail etc.

Not being funny but thats quite a way to reverse so he could clearly see you were there on the drivers side of his car also !! He must of been tuning the radio or getting his phone out his pocket etc.

Go through insurance immediately, if he can't speak much english he obviously can't read/write much english so won't be able to write a detailed description say it was his fault and claim through him.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you could do a 5 point turn or not its not going to insurance to judge what could have been done better to avoid the collision its based on what happened at the time of the incident.

Get on the phone to the insurance, then draw a diagram take pictures and leave a good description saying it was his fault. Its quite clear that the reverse maneuver was long so that any car could have seen you coming he should have looked across the car park to see if anyone was coming. If he had looked he would have seen your car reversing with the reverse lights on, say you stopped as soon as you saw the honda accelerate out of the space resulting the car scraping the side of your back bumper.

Seriously though you have a longer distance to drive before the collision, he had a shorter distance, he should have seen your car reversing and as a result stopped and waited.

Also add he had P plates so obviously has little experience. He may also not have fully legit insurance so may try to avoid the insurance. I would personally ring insurance and say it was his fault and you want it repaired.

[Sophie123]

My car hit into his car, there is no denying that. BUT, had I Been driving any faster, or he any slower, it would have been the front of his car going into my rear quarter.
It was both of us, just looks bad that it's back of mine and side of his.

EDIT: also, the bloke at the bodyshop saw the pictures of the car park, and said his opinion was that it would be the other drivers fault, but obviously he won't be a decider.
The bodyshop man said his advice would be to go through insurance since the other bloke is being so stubborn with the 'you hit me, you pay'

[baker556]

If you say its his fault, claim its his fault.

[Rudpud]

LOL! 21st centuary for you enitt? You mention 'racism' yet not 'sexism' - both as bad as each other imo.

For something to be racist it has to be discriminating to a person in particular. Racism is say, punching a black person for the colour of his skin etc. Not a word.

kool x

Relating to my sexist post here? As I said, im surprised it didnt come sooner :D As for not being racist, I dont know anyone that hasnt been racist at some point in their life.

Saying 'Paki' would have nothing to do with you being of Indian descent seeing as they are different...

[Moke]

LOL! 21st centuary for you enitt? You mention 'racism' yet not 'sexism' - both as bad as each other imo.

For something to be racist it has to be discriminating to a person in particular. Racism is say, punching a black person for the colour of his skin etc. Not a word.

For all you know I could be from indian descent or even female.

Also note the time of post and it being friday night/sat morning, you could of put 2 and 2 together and assumed that I waasnt exactly sober - if you had you would of been correct.


As for being a 'grass', you moke, have lost respect points from me.

kool x

You have a PM.

[Sophie123]

I have notified my insurance company. Stating I believe the third party was to blame for the accident.
I haven't put a claim into motion yet, I'll wait to see costings for repair then make a decision after my holiday.

Over my dead body am I paying a penny to fix his car though!

[wicked-vtr]

I hate people like that, he obv thinks he can push you around because your female. Tell him to do one and go through insurance just to spite him.

Then when its all done and forgotten in a few months, take a dump on his bonnet

[MiniGibbo]

Going by the detailed description and the cctv evidence providived in the first post im going to hazard a guess its both your faults as car park accidents 9/10 settle with "both at fault"..

[cyne]

Also park your car in view of cctv when you go away unless you're leaving it at the air port otherwise it might have a few extra dents and scratches added to it.

[Sophie123]

My car will be left at my mom and dads house while I am away!