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Carl-h
17th October 2011, 15:31
Can anyone tell me a reason why it's bad to train almost every muscle group every 2-3 days?
I'm not looking to become a body builder or be super fit, just after some better fitness, more power and strength and a better looking body.
Diet is alright, but as I'm not getting too serious I'll still treat myself to a Chinese every now and then.
It may seem I'm not very dedicated but if I go at it 100% I'll get bored in a month and give up.
So yeah, any downsides to just going to the gym 2-3 times a week but working almost everything? I know I can get better results spreading it out but as long as I'm still getting my rest I can't see a problem?
Thanks, Carl
itslikethat
17th October 2011, 15:54
Apparently its good for you to train like that EVERY SO OFTEN. Gains are probable either way mate.
Doing full body work outs all the time can limit the amount of damge your doing to each muscle therefore hindering growth.
Pairing muscles for example, like biceps and back, triceps and chest/shoulders is a very god way of doing a workout, because for example bench press, chest is the primary muscle being worked and the shoulder and triceps are getting worked but not as much. Therefore getting the most out of your workout.
Also if you do go all out every workout it can be hard to maintain the energy to work all your muscles through out the entire workout. So muscles get worked more than others.
Don't so full body workouts all the time, do them every so often in maybe circuit form.
daveg1
17th October 2011, 16:11
im not expert at all but i think it depends how hard you train. At the moment im training very hard 3-4 days a week and wouldnt fancy working the same muscle without at least a 3 day break. If your just wanting a to improve general fitness and strength then go for it. Just remember to switch your routine around so everything gets worked
Carl-h
17th October 2011, 16:24
I go at it pretty hard, pushing till I cant push anymore. I aim for three sets of 12 reps with the last few killing me, then I'll up the weight a fair bit and try and do as many as I can (6 if I'm lucky) then if I have any energy left I'll drop the weight to something very low and do stacks of reps (like, 30 plus). Is there anything bad/pointless in that?
Also, I do about 15 minutes cardio before hand and I cycle 20 minutes a day 5 times a week and on my days off I try to go for a proper off road ride around an hour quite intense.
Not after huge gains and I also use Jack3d so I tend to get what I want out of each muscle group.
McGuire86
17th October 2011, 16:26
Can anyone tell me a reason why it's bad to train almost every muscle group every 2-3 days?
I'm not looking to become a body builder or be super fit, just after some better fitness, more power and strength and a better looking body.
Diet is alright, but as I'm not getting too serious I'll still treat myself to a Chinese every now and then.
It may seem I'm not very dedicated but if I go at it 100% I'll get bored in a month and give up.
So yeah, any downsides to just going to the gym 2-3 times a week but working almost everything? I know I can get better results spreading it out but as long as I'm still getting my rest I can't see a problem?
Thanks, Carl
You need to be more clear with what you're asking. You say you want a better physique but don't want to be a bodybuilder.
I'm not pointing the finger at you personally but it does my head in when people say they want to be bigger or more muscular etc but don't want to be a bodybuilder, suggesting if they train like one they will be looking like some kind of genetic muscle bound freak. Alot of people here train in those ways and are no where near what the average person typically suggests what a bodybuilder is. These things don't happen over night.
What is your goal ? To gain more muscle mass? To get fitter? To drop some bodyfat ?
You need to be more specific to get a more specific answer :y:
Carl-h
17th October 2011, 17:05
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm not too sure, I don't wanna be massive like a body builder, I'd rather look like a rugby player lol. I have a bit of fat on my stomach and chest I'd like to shift, other than that I just want to become fitter and stronger with a bit more size.
I'm not exactly small at the moment, I'm 6'2" and 15 stone. Not fussed about mega ripped abs and huge biceps. Just a gradual build in size, strength and fitness.
e8_pqck
17th October 2011, 17:34
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm not too sure, I don't wanna be massive like a body builder, I'd rather look like a rugby player lol. I have a bit of fat on my stomach and chest I'd like to shift, other than that I just want to become fitter and stronger with a bit more size.
I'm not exactly small at the moment, I'm 6'2" and 15 stone. Not fussed about mega ripped abs and huge biceps. Just a gradual build in size, strength and fitness.
train as hard as you fucking can - you will never look like a body builder.
Dont train everything as a muscle needs 96 (iirc) hours to fully recuperate so this is why people split their bodyparts, amongst other reasons.
Carl-h
17th October 2011, 17:55
I don't mind waiting 96 hours inbetween the gym aslong as cardio (mostly cycling) won't affect it?
Carl-h
17th October 2011, 18:50
What about a post workout supplement to aid recovery so I'm able to train twice a week (Monday and Thursday)? Something like aftershock recovery?
itslikethat
17th October 2011, 20:12
Any whey protein will help mate. You will have to train more than twice a week to see real gains. And have a clean diet.
Pair muscles upa dn work them like that, much more effective.
McGuire86
17th October 2011, 20:36
What about a post workout supplement to aid recovery so I'm able to train twice a week (Monday and Thursday)? Something like aftershock recovery?
If you can only train 3 days a week on the weights then you should look into doing a 3 day split. It will benefit you alot more and you will see much better gains than what you are doing atm, because right now you are just over working yourself.
As for supplements for recovery BCAA and L'Glutamine are extremely good for this
welshy23
18th October 2011, 04:49
What about a post workout supplement to aid recovery so I'm able to train twice a week (Monday and Thursday)? Something like aftershock recovery?
Really, just twice?... i work 65 hour weeks, play hockey on tuesday night and saturday, have a girlfriend i still see very regularly and still go to the gym atleast 5-6 times a week... What are you doing?!
Carl-h
18th October 2011, 05:37
My jobs pretty tyring tbh, I'm a baker but it involves lots of lifting heavy dough to head height or comping up flour (half a ton per cage, usually 2 cages a day). Also, I don't wanna be spending every minute in the gym, I also have a girlfriend I like to see and I like my sleep lol.
daveg1
18th October 2011, 12:35
3 day split mate, it's what I do as I can only get to the gym 3 times a week.
McGuire86
18th October 2011, 12:42
My jobs pretty tyring tbh, I'm a baker but it involves lots of lifting heavy dough to head height or comping up flour (half a ton per cage, usually 2 cages a day). Also, I don't wanna be spending every minute in the gym, I also have a girlfriend I like to see and I like my sleep lol.
Well you can't have it all. You have to make sacrafices. If you're not prepared to put in the work, don't get prepared for the results you're expecting/want.
Bodybuilding and most training for that matter, isn't a hobby it's a lifestyle
welshy23
18th October 2011, 13:40
Well you can't have it all. You have to make sacrafices. If you're not prepared to put in the work, don't get prepared for the results you're expecting/want.
Bodybuilding and most training for that matter, isn't a hobby it's a lifestyle
why make excuses to people... Either make the time, or stop saying you want muscle! simple.
Dizzy
22nd October 2011, 02:34
It works well. Instead of smashing a muscle to bits once a week, you can train it every other day. With smart programming you can get wicked gains in strength, size and loose fat.
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