engine difference 96/90bhp

[KrazyDayz]

whats the difference between the 96bhp and 90bhp VTR?

[sam_16v]

silvertop has 98 and blactop is 90 the difference lies within the cams but the 90 bhp (blacktop) is more tuneable bcos you can put a xsi inlet on which has good gains plus the blacktop has a fuel return so its easier to convert to a vts engine

[KrazyDayz]

but the blacktop can still be converted to VTS?

[Ryan1992]

Blacktops have 90bhp
Silvertops have 100bhp

[sam_16v]

they both can be but the blacktop has a fuel return so its easier and i mean full engine conversion block + head you cant put a vts head on vtr block

[KrazyDayz]

mine needs a clutch and shafts.. but i seen a complete VTS setup for £250 including box.. shafts, rad ect.. i may buy this

[sam_16v]

go for it mate it will add 800 pound onto value of your car plus vts is the daddy im doing a vts conversion at the mo i paid £8 for a vts engine have a look a my progress thread on my sig

[Gandi699]

silvertop has 98 and blactop is 90 the difference lies within the cams but the 90 bhp (blacktop) is more tuneable bcos you can put a xsi inlet on which has good gains plus the blacktop has a fuel return so its easier to convert to a vts engine

The black top is more tuneable because of the kind of rockers and valve springs it uses, the later roller rocker type isnt so good as its valve springs are softer as standard. You can put a rallye inlet on an early roller rocker head as the port spacings are the same as the blacktop, its only the mk2 saxo roller rocker engine that you cant as its port spacings are different.

[Quick]

Its not black/silver 90/98, there are three different R engine!
Blacktop 90bhp
Silvertop 90bhp
Silvertop 98bhp (fitted to 2001+ with cat in manifold and three plug ecu)

You can't just stick a 16v head on an 8v block - best to swop the whole engine and all the other bits and bobs!

[JNolan]

Theres a difference in mpg to, i was getting an extra 15 miles or so from a tenner on the 98bhp.

[LSOfreak]

silvertop has 98 and blactop is 90 the difference lies within the cams but the 90 bhp (blacktop) is more tuneable bcos you can put a xsi inlet on which has good gains plus the blacktop has a fuel return so its easier to convert to a vts engine

thats not true

also the silvertop engine can still be tuned (cammed). would just be more beneficial to fit aftermarket valve springs to avoid 'valve float'

Blacktops have 90bhp
Silvertops have 100bhp

thats not true either

mk1's had 2 engines.
the early blacktop ones with distributors and ht leads - 90bhp
later mk1's had a silver top 90bhp with overhead coilpack

early mk2 vtr's had that silvertop 90bhp engine aswell during the chsangeover. after that mk2's then had a 98bhp silver top

go for it mate it will add 800 pound onto value of your car plus vts is the daddy im doing a vts conversion at the mo i paid £8 for a vts engine have a look a my progress thread on my sig

where on earth did you get this figure from!?

to the op: i wouldnt worry too much about 90 or 98bhp tbh i didnt notice a difference between the two. as said though, it would be easier to see more gains if tuning the blacktop though. saying that, why would you want to tune an 8valve engine when the 16valve engine is so cheap these days?

[danny-vts]

go for it mate it will add 800 pound onto value of your car plus vts is the daddy im doing a vts conversion at the mo i paid £8 for a vts engine have a look a my progress thread on my sig

lmao :wall: