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laurence
20th November 2011, 18:35
i was just think about it what metal are saxo bonnets made off?

cuz saxos dont really rust.

danny-vts
20th November 2011, 18:45
i was just think about it what metal are saxo bonnets made off?

cuz saxos dont really rust.

what you smoking??

opee
20th November 2011, 18:46
judging by what happens when they crash I will say kitkat foil.

john-paul
20th November 2011, 18:48
Might as well be tin foil

Prickle
20th November 2011, 18:49
:detective:

ops a troll.

Viper
20th November 2011, 18:49
Corrugated steel :y:

J222JRA
20th November 2011, 18:50
:detective:

ops a troll.

You're rated far higher on the troll-o-meter John.

naz_loz_vtr
20th November 2011, 18:51
saxo's dont rust u having a laugh
my gf's ('00(W plate) has rust near chevrons at front of bonnet under, the lip and at the top of bonnet near wiper arms
theres more rust on that 1 panel than was on the whole of my 97' corsa sport

laurence
20th November 2011, 18:56
really i dont have any rust you get some under the car but i was talking about body work

wolf_gsxr
20th November 2011, 18:58
It's just cheap low carbon, wafer thin steel. It rusts because it's thin and has a higher iron percentage than others. That and our wonderful weather doesn't help.

Tontsy
20th November 2011, 19:17
mine had no rust / corrosion atall!

then i painted it matte black and it was even more pretected! win!
but, then again does tin foil rust ?

stevo67
20th November 2011, 19:51
I`ve had have no rust on the body panels,just underneath the car where i`ve had a little welding done.

Mr_P
20th November 2011, 19:56
It's galv steel. Hence the low rust.

Will only rust in places where the galv coating has been damaged/removed and then comes into contact with water.

SnakeVTR
20th November 2011, 20:02
i once thought mine was Invincible from rust, but come Mot time i found a mahooosive hole under the ECU :fcuk: no other rust what so ever on the car :y:

SnakeVTR
20th November 2011, 20:03
It's galv steel. Hence the low rust.

Will only rust in places where the galv coating has been damaged/removed and then comes into contact with water.

I thought they used Titanium on the Vtr/s models :homme:

f13sta
20th November 2011, 20:07
just normal steel. the pugs are suppose to be galv steel.

it's just got a protective coat similar to underseal all over the body underneeth.

and they do rust once that get damaged and allows water to get in. i've had to weld under the ecu and on the front drivers inner arch on the back bit. if they were galv steel you wouldn't have rust at all on any of the non removeable panels.

Mr_P
20th November 2011, 20:18
just normal steel. the pugs are suppose to be galv steel.

it's just got a protective coat similar to underseal all over the body underneeth.

and they do rust once that get damaged and allows water to get in. i've had to weld under the ecu and on the front drivers inner arch on the back bit. if they were galv steel you wouldn't have rust at all on any of the non removeable panels.

So the two shells that are identical are made out of different materials?

If they were normal mild steel they would rust at all sorts of random places.

But they don't. They rust where stuff has been mounted, hence holes, hence damage to the galv coating.

They're galv steel.

f13sta
20th November 2011, 20:25
So the two shells that are identical are made out of different materials?

If they were normal mild steel they would rust at all sorts of random places.

But they don't. They rust where stuff has been mounted, hence holes, hence damage to the galv coating.

They're galv steel.

the galvanising is just a coating, before things are bolted the whole shell is submerged.

and they do rust in random places.
for example behind the rear bumper bar. no stone chips up there but still rust.

sills on kitted cars same no stones hit them and they still rust round there.

up on the rear pillar dfo no stone chipps there but one again seen loads that have had holes once you take the cover off inside.

where as pugs don't if they were gavanised then they wouldn't rot at all apart from the thins not apart of the original pressed shell. look at caravan chassis that are galvanised they have no paint on them either and never rust

belive me mate they are not galvanised would be too expensive process. thats one reason why the same equlivant peugeot was more expensive to buy. and demand a higher premium than the saxo eqivilant

rick_VTR
20th November 2011, 20:35
i think what Mr P is saying is that the shell is galv steel, not the chasis?

Ben_SaxoForte
20th November 2011, 20:39
Don't really rust? christ my old 1.1 saxo was a total rust bucket lol

f13sta
20th November 2011, 20:39
shell and chassis is the same thing now mate the mono chassis ect unless there is some new way of spraying a gavanising coat before paint

rick_VTR
20th November 2011, 20:43
shell and chassis is the same thing now mate the mono chassis ect unless there is some new way of spraying a gavanising coat before paint


yeah, i always thought galvanising was a dipping process.

its very rare you do find a saxo with rust on body pannels unless its had the paint scraped away.

but all saxos ive seen are rusty somewhere underneath.

Mr_P
20th November 2011, 20:45
the galvanising is just a coating, before things are bolted the whole shell is submerged.

and they do rust in random places.
for example behind the rear bumper bar. no stone chips up there but still rust.

sills on kitted cars same no stones hit them and they still rust round there.

up on the rear pillar dfo no stone chipps there but one again seen loads that have had holes once you take the cover off inside.

where as pugs don't if they were gavanised then they wouldn't rot at all apart from the thins not apart of the original pressed shell. look at caravan chassis that are galvanised they have no paint on them either and never rust

belive me mate they are not galvanised would be too expensive process. thats one reason why the same equlivant peugeot was more expensive to buy. and demand a higher premium than the saxo eqivilant


Weld a 106 and weld a Saxo then. In all the same places. The 106's were only slightly more expensive because they had more creature comforts.

Stone chips aren't the only thing that cause holes. As you've pointed out, the shells are submerged, usually after welding. So the holes that stuff is bolted too are drilled prior to this. This is indeed looking at things as best as possible.

Considering this is a saxo the holes were probably drilled after they were galvanised. Considering coils of steel uually leave the steel works either galvanised or not, often passing through the CAPL(line) The higher quality steels then go on to car manufacturing.

And even if the holes were drilled prior to submerging, you obviously know that the galv coating doesn't adhere to a lip of steel as well as a large surface.



Source: Had both saxos and 106's for 5 years. 5 years experience in a steel works with a capl line, worked in both the heavy end and the rolling and finishing mills and my father has 32 years experience in the steel industry and he's a pretty good source of knowledge about anything concerning steel.

laurence
20th November 2011, 20:50
my car has NO! rust anywhere :) had all the engine bay painted and under the car has been painted :) there wasnt really any rust anyway

cookiee
23rd November 2011, 00:01
its not metal its paper mache