short time at work

[stevo1600]

hi all, ive been put on short time at work, well i say me i mean everyone in the entire company has been put on four days a week as were losing to much money.

is there a limit to how long we are on it before theres any changes? im well in with my work so not looking for another job, unless i have to.

i did ask my boss but he wouldn't give me a straight answer, kept saying we will review it in march...

[Moke]

They might not be able to answer it as they don't know how everything's going to turn out...

Things could pick up or you could go into administration.

We did. Luckily, we got new ownership.

[swampy]

Plenty of it happening.
Who do you work for?

[stevo1600]

i work for a company called H. schrieber who specialize in roofing fixings, so its building related, even though i work in the warehouse, if no ones building, then we have no work as theres nothing to send out etc.

hope it picks up, just want to know if there is a law/legislation about staying on four days for to long?? as some one on here may have more info on.

[Mr_X]

hi all, ive been put on short time at work, well i say me i mean everyone in the entire company has been put on four days a week as were losing to much money.

is there a limit to how long we are on it before theres any changes? im well in with my work so not looking for another job, unless i have to.

i did ask my boss but he wouldn't give me a straight answer, kept saying we will review it in march...

?

What would you rather 4days or no days...

It isnt really worth pushing.

[stevo1600]

true mate, but still the 1 who owns the companys is, well doesnt do things by the book by far. dont want to be on four days if theres some kind of legislation that prevents only 4 days pay even though the companys open for 5 days a week, he'd have us doing it all year if he could. were on a rota so everyone is now massively stretched.

[Mr_X]

true mate, but still the 1 who owns the companys is, well doesnt do things by the book by far. dont want to be on four days if theres some kind of legislation that prevents only 4 days pay even though the companys open for 5 days a week, he'd have us doing it all year if he could. were on a rota so everyone is now massively stretched.

it should have all been agreed before hand, if not you can argue constructive dismissal. Which may or may not be awarded, possible court appearance etc. And all in you will get very little back. poss a months wage, however dont know your situation. (oh, and be out a job)

Bite the bullet im afraid.

Useful post +1

[stevo1600]

just found this.

What is short-time working?
• Short-time working occurs when employees are laid off for a number
of contractual days each week, or for a number of hours during a working
day.
• As in the case of a lay-off, the employer must have an express or implied
power in order lawfully to reduce the amount of pay.
Normal practice would be for the workforce or their union to agree to
short-time working as an alternative to redundancies

thats all ACAS can offer, nothing on a limit of how many weeks or anything. i reckon its aslong as the company can show were not making any profit..

edit : thanks MR - X

[Mr_X]

just found this.

What is short-time working?
• Short-time working occurs when employees are laid off for a number
of contractual days each week, or for a number of hours during a working
day.
• As in the case of a lay-off, the employer must have an express or implied
power in order lawfully to reduce the amount of pay.
Normal practice would be for the workforce or their union to agree to
short-time working as an alternative to redundancies

thats all ACAS can offer, nothing on a limit of how many weeks or anything. i reckon its aslong as the company can show were not making any profit..

edit : thanks MR - X

No problem, Yeah sounds about right. Not much worth doing and its very easy to make it appear you are making very little profit.

[Moke]

?

What would you rather 4days or no days...

It isnt really worth pushing.

This was what I was trying to say too.

When we were told the company was in trouble, we all shat ourselves... Then when we were offered 4 days a week, we were buzzing!

Luckily, things picked up and people took voluntary redundancy, so we didn't have to change our hours.

[b0t13]

id get applying for other jobs, dont sit on it, even if you dont get another job its worth covering your own arse incase they lay people off, a company that reduces days isnt a safe bet in the long term..

[Manu]

i did ask my boss but he wouldn't give me a straight answer, kept saying we will review it in march...

tax period. You will get an answer in April, my bet is that they will lay off some staff. We're still in a deep, really severe recession and it's very likely to get worse.

id get applying for other jobs, dont sit on it, even if you dont get another job its worth covering your own arse incase they lay people off, a company that reduces days isnt a safe bet in the long term..
Exactly this

it should have all been agreed before hand, if not you can argue constructive dismissal.

That would be very hard to prove.

[Quick]

I'd start looking for a new job, even if you don't actually apply you get an idea of what is out there!

Working one less day is the same as a 20% pay cut!