help locking wheel nuts

[craigy_87]

went to the garage today to get a problem fixed but couldnt take the wheels off as i found out i dont have the key for the standard locking wheel nuts, is there anyway at all to get these off or am i going to have to phone up the guy i bought it from see if he still has it or contact citroen??
craigy

[Clouds_mate]

The garage should of been able to get them off mate, A chizel (sp) and a large hammer will be fine

[craigy_87]

see i thought that! dammit i dont think they were wanting to break anything. am home now with my car still not fixed, av left a message on the guys phone that i bought the car from he better have it! think i might take it to another garage in the mean time
craigy

[YM03]

couple of ways to get them off, you can use a threaded impact socket threadid the opposit way so as you tightin it loosins
other way is bray a sockit on that is just smaller than locking nut
and as stated the chisel

[DevilDamo]

Well done to everybody posting this kind of information on a public forum. I'd suggest you ALL see if you still have your wheels on. Haha! :zainy:

Any garage should have been able to remove them unless the bolt is rounded too much. But there's always a way.

[craigy_87]

lol thanks am gonna phone the garage up just now say is there anyway they can take it off without the key am gonna see what they say

[DevilDamo]

If they say no... it means they can't be bothered.

[craigy_87]

well they cant be bothered they said they couldnt
i'll post up some pics just incase am describin them wrong
craigy

[craigy_87]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/craigy_87/180720061360.jpg

[craigy_87]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f68/craigy_87/180720061361.jpg

[DevilDamo]

Go somewhere else...? If they don't want the business then sod them.

Edit:- A reason why some garages say no is that the bolt is too hard to get to (sunk into the wheel). But even in your case, it's literally flush with the rim. No excuse in my opinion. But... there's also the possibility they don't want to get themselves into trouble because if they did manage to remove it and damaged the wheel/hub then you'd want them to sort it.

[Scott]

those are a piece of piss to get off without a locking key i had to do teh same with mine when i couldnt find the key, then when i got them off i foudn teh bloody key:P still usable though

[Scott]

other way is bray a sockit on that is just smaller than locking nut


thats the one, small socket smaller than the sticky out bit of the lockign wheel nut hammer it on, it wont go on easy but hammer it right on, use ratchet/breaker bar to undo. Job done.

Getting the socket back off the locker is fun to:P

[craigy_87]

what a crap garage kept me waitin 2 weeks then just stop once a tiny hurdle appears. they said something like we usually put another socket over it but because of the kind of lockin wheel nut we wouldnt be able to.
how did u do it scott ? any of the ways mentioned above?
EDIT: just read ur last post
craigy

[DevilDamo]

Pop over to Scott mate. He'll sort it for you :cool:

[craigy_87]

lol yeah might do that :Y: lol
i was gettin the wheel takin off to get a new track rod end an drop link fitted
craigy

[craigy_87]

off to another garage to see what they'll say back in 10
craigy

[craigy_87]

well thats me back an the guy basically said piece of piss to take them off
so its booked in for 2morow morning to get new track rod end and perhaps drop link.
thanks guys :Y: would give ya rep but its not letting me gotta spread it around lol
craigy

[YM03]

least you getting it sorted mate.
cheers
Chris

[DevilDamo]

Nice one mate...

[craigy_87]

thanx guys chris i think i was able to give u rep
craigy

[craigy_87]

was in a panic but it was just a lazy garage
i think am getting it all done cheaper now aswell lol :Y:
craigy

[YM03]

yip I got it mate thanx
Chris

[YM03]

was in a panic but it was just a lazy garage
i think am getting it all done cheaper now aswell lol :Y:
craigy
even better for you then, nothing worse than lazzy garrages

[craigy_87]

yeah an even worse they kept me waitin for two weeks sayin not many mechanics so no big jobs
new track rod end hardly a big job am getting mine done an given back 2morow.
least it made me realise i didnt have the key for the wheel nuts so there all comin off 2morow an am givin the mechanic some new ones to put on
craigy

[Scott]

I think i used a 12mm socket, rattled it over the end, undo it. Spend about 20 mins bashing the socket back off of the nut, quick file of the locking wheel nut so it fits the key again and job was a good un

[craigy_87]

not bad scott :Y:
see i woulda done it all myself but its just i needed the new track rod end etc so even if i did get it off i'd have to stick it back on to get the car to the garage
craigy

[YM03]

I think i used a 12mm socket, rattled it over the end, undo it. Spend about 20 mins bashing the socket back off of the nut, quick file of the locking wheel nut so it fits the key again and job was a good un
lol yes it's fun getting socket back off, the best way I found was stick socket in vice, take screw driver and bray it from opposit side worked a treat, if no vice availible use some thing that is big anough for bolt to go thro but not the socket

[Scott]

Aye muchos fun getting it back out, the missus brother appeared on the second wheel so i let him have some fun getting it off:P

[craigy_87]

lol fun for all the family:D:
craigy

[YM03]

lol could turn it into a fun day out there graigy, put bq on bit drink and we'll all have some fun, fun bit worked for scot:zainy:

[craigy_87]

lol what a combination - drink and gettin a socket back off a nut lol :Y:
craigy

[YM03]

makes it that bit more intresting, and it don't hurt as much when you hit your thumb haha