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DanJames
28th November 2011, 18:11
Hi all, im 20, 5ft 10', 11 stone and been going to the gym since january. I've got a great workout routine and never miss a gym session.

My big problem is diet which is the most important thing. I have a perfect diet plan written down and in my head but since coming back from holiday in july i have hardly been sticking to it which is probably becuase i now havent got anything to work towards which i did before holiday.

This is my Diet plan

8am - Bowl of porridge with 1% (orange top) milk, glass of orange juice

11am - 2 poached eggs on wholemeal toast, protein shake and a banana

2pm - Chicken/tuna sandwiches, apple & banana,cereal bar

6pm - Cooked tea - Roast dinner/chicken & pasta etc

7 - 8.30pm - GYM

9pm - Protein Shake, cooked chicken,banana.

(and plenty of water)

This is what im eating atm,

breakfast - shreddies/coco pops (sugary cereal)
brunch - poached eggs, toast, chocolate bar
lunch - bagguete, crisps, chocolate bar,/cookies etc
tea - cooked meal.
supper (after gym) - juice,cookies,crisps etc.


(and hardly any water, drinking mostly juice)

I know what i want and need to do, but im finding really hard lately to stick to my diet. Has anyone got any tips or advice on sticking to diets and how to stop giving into temptation (eating junk etc).

Thanks, Dan.

Giraffe
28th November 2011, 18:16
Right, what's perfect about that, and what are you trying to achieve?

DanJames
28th November 2011, 18:48
Whats not?

Strength and definition :)

Giraffe
28th November 2011, 18:54
Whats not?

Strength and definition :)

Protein at breakfast is none existent, get some.

As for sticking to your plan, you either want to be strong and defined, or you don't. If you do, you will have no problem eating properly. It's a choice at the end of the day. Watch the documentary film "I want to look like that guy" ever so kindly posted by McGuire on here. Very inspirational.

McGuire86
28th November 2011, 18:59
If you want it that much then nothing will stop you sticking to your diet.

If you cannot contain yourself from eating shit then maybe you should re-evaluate your goals.

No one is forcing you to do it, you either want it or not, you just gotta put it the commitment.

''Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but don't no one wanna lift no heavy ass weights!''

DusheR
29th November 2011, 11:04
By no means perfect but not the worst Ive seen. And strength and definition dont go together unfortunately. Strength will come with size and hard work, definition with a cutting diet. If anything to will lose strength. Ill alter your diet to suit a sort of cleanish bulk.



This is my Diet plan

8am - 100g oats made with water, banana, protein shake

11am - 3 poached eggs on 4 wholemeal toast

2pm - Chicken/tuna sandwiches, apple

6pm - Cooked tea - Roast dinner/chicken & wholewheat pasta

7 - 8.30pm - GYM
Protein shake Immediately after.

9pm - cooked chicken, white rice

Before bed - Casein shake

(Pint of water with each meal)

Giraffe
29th November 2011, 13:56
By no means perfect but not the worst Ive seen. And strength and definition dont go together unfortunately. Strength will come with size and hard work, definition with a cutting diet. If anything to will lose strength. Ill alter your diet to suit a sort of cleanish bulk.

Strength and size don't always go together either though mate... Look at the olympic lifters, after all, strength is mainly how well you can utilise the muscle fibres available, i.e. the connection between mind and muscle, and I'm sure I read that even the strongest people, i.e. these olympic lifters etc don't use nearly 100% of available fibres. Insane really.

DusheR
30th November 2011, 01:03
Strength and size don't always go together either though mate... Look at the olympic lifters, after all, strength is mainly how well you can utilise the muscle fibres available, i.e. the connection between mind and muscle, and I'm sure I read that even the strongest people, i.e. these olympic lifters etc don't use nearly 100% of available fibres. Insane really.

Totally true mate, was just generalising really. Funny you should mention that, thats what Ive been looking into recently. Ive adopted a form of training called called HIT. Done similar in the past without really knowing, but now Im concentrating all my workout towards this.

My understanding is when lifting a weight your brain decides how many muscle fibers to fire up. This can be changed by different chemical reactions in your body including the presence of adrenaline. Like when your hear them daft stories of a granny lifting a car to rescue someone.

Anyways you basically push yourself beyond failure, this forces your brain to react. It realizes you couldn't push the weight therefore knows to fire more muscle fibers in future and triggers muscle growth in that area.

Honestly kills me but seeing strength gains already. And a by product of some size :p

Dorian Yates was/is the master imo. Love his training partner hahaha

Giraffe
30th November 2011, 19:29
Fuckin LOL, that guy is crazy! Think I'd shit my pants if I had him shouting at me!

I was starting to read up about strength before I packed in and found that not too much is really known about it. I'd read similar to you though that people do crazy things when in intense situations. I'm sure I read that even the highest athletes are only able to utilise something like 35% of their available muscle fibres.

Kinda makes sense when you think about it though, look at monkeys and how close they are to us genetically, but how unbelievably strong they are, same goes for most animals to be honest. And some disabled people, that have freakish strength, I think it's just because they don't suffer the same mental distractions that the majority of people do in day to day life and the fact we aren't constantly using our muscle for stuff...

All about making stronger mental connections, which is a bit freaky really... Makes it seem more like mental training than physical training.