Adult Nursing At Uni

[Greg_2492]

Has anyone done adult nursing at uni?

Maybe at a Scottish uni, Glasgow or Glasgow Cali or UWS?

Even you English, Whats your experience's?

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[Moke]

Cue Lacey......

[Furioman]

i wouldnt bother i work in a hospital, there no jobs to be had in nursing, 700 applicants for a single opening at the moment is typical

[Greg_2492]

A couple of my mates are doing it. Unfortunatly ive herd thats the case, but it could open many doors, Move country etc. With a good world wide skill like nursing, surely most conutries would accept you over job blogs the bum looking to move country, hypothetically speaking!

Sure beats being a co-operative employee for the rest of my days!

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[NickJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baSyYyqV2X0

[G_Vtr123]

it might beat the coop but u wont get far with the nursing

[Moke]

Come on guys, try and be supportive not fucking morbid.

Dude, do what you want to do... Researching it online is probably the best!

I'll have a word with Lacey if she'll chat to you about it (not sure if she comes on here much anymore!)

[Lacey_106]

Cheers moke. :)
I would recommend researching the universities thoroughly and finding out what hospitals they are affiliated with.
I chose my university based on the hospital I would be place at as it's the largest trust in the country and also has one of the highest rates of employment of students which have done their training with them.

With nursing it's not really about the university it's about the hospital so definitely choose your course based on the how good the associated hospital is.

Hope this helps.

Oh and for those people who say there are no jobs in nursing... I got offered 7 jobs when I qualified. There are jobs if you are prepared to work hard!

[Mochachino]

Is the Nottingham one any good?

[Lacey_106]

Best universities for nursing are Manchester, Edinburgh, And kings

[Lacey_106]

But its not an easy ride and you have to work really bloody hard. Work horribly unsocial hours which only get worse when you qualify and you don't really get a Uni experience when you work for half the year. But if it's what you want to do then you wont regret it.

Best decision I ever made.


Edit; don't do it. You never get any time off, you will never see your friends and family again. No joke.

[Greg_2492]

Cheers lacey. Im quite certain its where I want to be in the future. Retail is terribly crap, and Ive considered nursing on and off for 2 years now ( since end of school) until I properly looked into it, I wasnt too sure. I have no doubt its gonna be tricky, but I reckon it'll be wworth it! As for the uni experience im not too fussed about that, I work near full time as it is, currentl on 6 nights for 4 weeks of nightshift!

And all you cynisits, if you dont try better yourself your never gonna succeed :D

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[Greg_2492]

Cheers lacey. Im quite certain its where I want to be in the future. Retail is terribly crap, and Ive considered nursing on and off for 2 years now ( since end of school) until I properly looked into it, I wasnt too sure. I have no doubt its gonna be tricky, but I reckon it'll be wworth it! As for the uni experience im not too fussed about that, I work near full time as it is, currentl on 6 nights for 4 weeks of nightshift!

And all you cynisits, if you dont try better yourself your never gonna succeed :D

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[Lacey_106]

Go for it then. I wish you every success.

The English nursing degree let's you work anywhere in the world. Whereas to work here nurses are required to undergo formal training in a university setting despite how many years experience they have. English nursing degree is held in high esteem worldwide.

In some Arabic countries for example, an English nurse can earn 60-70k a year with almost all expenses paid. There are pros and cons to that though obviously.

If you can I would definitely move to a big city to do your training, London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle or Edinburgh. The hospitals will be bigger and have bigger budgets but they will also have more diverse patients which gives you the opportunity to experience the most in 3 years.

Just hope you don't get a complete sadist who is sorting your off duty like I see to have found myself with :(

[jw1325]

I have a few mates who did Nursing a Edinburgh, and one who is still studying. ( I live in Edinburgh)

they seem to enjoy it. My friends that are already qualified walked into jobs as soon as they left, my friend still studying has lots of different placements and is on the nursing bank so even gets odd job while studying.

One of my friends also got £500 a month grant. she lived at home with her parents paying no digs and also had a part time job. she was fecking loaded while she was studying, but she just pissed it up the wall tbh.

[baker556]

i Know people that do it.

Basically Lacey has hit the nail on the head.

You will walk straight into a job.

Un-socaible hours working ~usually 12-13 hour days or nights which can be three days in a row.

My sister newly qualified really, has 30 patients on her ward. She has roughly 1 years experience. Yes one years experience and has to look after 30 patients with someone with even less experience than her 3 months or if that nurse cant make it they bring in some call out person that doesn't exactly know what there doing.

So thats 30 lifes in your hands basically between 2 of you that doesn't have much experience. She said its non stop 12-13 hour days or nights.

She hates it for the fact that, she works on a mens ward. She is in charge basically and only new really. When someone dies she has to sort out telling the family all the reports etc. Apparently after some deaths cpr etc can be quite emotional but you still have another 29 people to look after every second while they ding there buzzers.

You never sit down, never really get a break or lunch.

So theres the facts, go do an english degree...

[Greg_2492]

Once again folks thanks very much! :D it would be glasgow I would go to, and chose a uni from there, going to edinburgh isnt an option if im honest, it does sound a good option nonetheless.

Jw, in scotland thats correct 6,400 bursary and tuttion fees paid, regardless of parentel income etc.i would much rather get a glasgow uni say compared to the paisley uni. As for doing an english degree im not sure how I would go around that tbh, living in scotland and funded by SAAS ( student awards agency for scotland ).

So is a scottish degree any less ' valuable' so to speak? Could I work worldwide with it?

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[Greg_2492]

With regard to the strong stories, I dont doubt it would be mentally and physcially taxing. And I think it could be a struggle but its defo something im re ady to give a try upon. Sure beats the co, I took. Ayear out to work for them since I was unsure what I rreally wanted to do. Despite these facts it still has appeal to me tbh.

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[de51_Hodgey]

My sister newly qualified really, has 30 patients on her ward. She has roughly 1 years experience. Yes one years experience and has to look after 30 patients with someone with even less experience than her 3 months or if that nurse cant make it they bring in some call out person that doesn't exactly know what there doing.




Surely this defies patient care? At Birmingham city hosp where i work there is usually 2 qualified nurses & 2 HCA's on a ward

back to the subject

As Lacey said its a job for life and there is so many ways to go through it, nursing in the army, prisons, police stations, district nursing, night practioners there are a massive array of possibilities.

just research all the universities.. from experience if you decide to come to England dont go to Wolverhampton uni lol

[Lacey_106]

By law you can't look after 30 patients to one nurse. Regardless of their level of needs. not sure on the exact number but it's between 10 and 15.
I work on a high dependency ward where patients require a lot of care so I have between 1 and 5 patients.
In ITU you can only look after with a ratio of 1:1 sometimes it's 2 or more to 1.

Night shifts are slightly different unless like in HDU and ITU they require round the clock nursing observations and assistance. But generally you have less staff on at night than in the day.

And then obviously you have specialties and areas where you can get call outs. So you would be on an on call roster to evenly divide the shifts.
When you work in theatre they do this, I'm about to train as a tracheostomy nurse so that can put me on call should they receive a new tracheostomy patient anywhere in the trust.

Basically what I'm saying is... yes the hours are bad and there is a lot of responsibility that even when you are a student you cannot possibly understand. It is not until it is you signing off for treatment or medication that you realise quite how much of an important role you play in your patients life... BUT nursing can go in any direction you wish to take it.

So many options.

[baker556]

Surely this defies patient care? At Birmingham city hosp where i work there is usually 2 qualified nurses & 2 HCA's on a ward

back to the subject

As Lacey said its a job for life and there is so many ways to go through it, nursing in the army, prisons, police stations, district nursing, night practioners there are a massive array of possibilities.

just research all the universities.. from experience if you decide to come to England dont go to Wolverhampton uni lol

Of course it goes against patience care but with the nhs cuts theres literally nothing that can be done. The whole hospital is under staffed.

[Lacey_106]

To the OP if you need help with your supporting account for your application just let me know :)

[opee]

I'm an adult nurse.

I trained in wales, degree. Though I live in England. I trained in wales because I got 460 quid a month to do so. I didn't have pay it back. Thats a lot when you are a full time student. If I trained in England it would be a grand a year. So consider wales for the bursary!

As for the job. Hmmm. 4 years post reg I've had enough. Though I dont mind the shift pattern. 3 long days a week. Cant complain about that. But given the time again I wouldn't be a fucking nurse.