best bulking product

[saxoclarke]

ok soo im 17 and staring back at the gym to bulk up for summer
last year i gained 3 stone from training i was on whey protein for 2 months didnt see any effects went on animal m stak only seen affects in actual strengh not size went on dianobol gained about 1 stone and turned my testis to raisins for a while , im currently looking for something strong to hit the gym hard with, was looking at growth hormone injections but was wondering if anyone can recomend anything including gear

[JamesR]

Eggs. And good quality meat. And diet in general.

You really don't want to start messing with growth hormones, especially at 17 just to "look good" for the summer, jesus.

Eat well, train hard and avoid injecting nasty man made substances made in a lab somewhere into yourself.

[McGuire86]

Best bulking product ? Food.

[Giraffe]

Wow, 17 and already looking for a quick fix...

Bulk your brain out and educate yourself first, and learn to have patience and do it properly for your age, don't want to be messing about just yet. Looking good for the summer isn't the be all and end all of life mate.

[DusheR]

You need to train your brain first. Do some reading! Concentrate on diet and training! Your being stupid and no one will disagree with me.

Your natural hormones will be raging now! You should be gaining loads naturally.

[DusheR]

Wow, 17 and already looking for a quick fix...

Bulk your brain out and educate yourself first, and learn to have patience and do it properly for your age, don't want to be messing about just yet. Looking good for the summer isn't the be all and end all of life mate.

lol didnt even read yours.

[Giraffe]

lol didnt even read yours.

Cheers mate! Great minds and all that though eh ;)

[saxoclarke]

i eat healthy and even had a diet printed off and stuck to it for a good 4-5 months and wasnt improving anything just had a bit more energy, my build is ment to be skinny anyway no matter how much i eat i burn the weight of quick anyway

[McGuire86]

Then you need to be eating more.

And 4-5 months is hardly anything tbh, especially at 17. You should be consistent for a few years.

What was the diet you followed anyway ?

[JamesR]

i eat healthy and even had a diet printed off and stuck to it for a good 4-5 months and wasnt improving anything just had a bit more energy, my build is ment to be skinny anyway no matter how much i eat i burn the weight of quick anyway

You can't of been eating enough then, EVERYONE can gain

[DusheR]

If you really want to stab needles in yourself, get some vitamin B12. Goes in sub-Q and is leagal. You get get it on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vitamin-B12-1000-mcg-1ml-X-10-/250964676275?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Suppleme nts&hash=item3a6ea90eb3

Dosage Ive heard anywhere between 1000mcg-7000mcg per week.

Increases hunger and energy levels. Perfect for bulking and training!

If you like a good read, look here:

http://www.synthetek.com/synthelamin-appetite-stimulator/

[DusheR]

After a short search for cheaper B12, found some vet grade:

http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Intravit-B12-Injection-100ml/productinfo/INTRA100/

edit: reading on you need to use it in a month after first withdrawl. Still will work out cheaper though

[baker556]

If you really want to stab needles in yourself, get some vitamin B12. Goes in sub-Q and is leagal. You get get it on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vitamin-B12-1000-mcg-1ml-X-10-/250964676275?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Suppleme nts&hash=item3a6ea90eb3

Dosage Ive heard anywhere between 1000mcg-7000mcg per week.

Increases hunger and energy levels. Perfect for bulking and training!

If you like a good read, look here:

http://www.synthetek.com/synthelamin-appetite-stimulator/

No way would i buy anything like that on eBay

[Brettles1986]

If you want to look good for the summer cut off your head ;)

[DusheR]

No way would i buy anything like that on eBay

lol nice input. Care to expand? Even though I was just showing its availability I would still buy it from there without a problem.

Its vitamin B12, used widely.

[baker556]

lol nice input. Care to expand? Even though I was just showing its availability I would still buy it from there without a problem.

Its vitamin B12, used widely.

Used widely maybe. But this is eBay half of the stuff on there is not genuine, you do not know what is it that, the seller had only sold two and thats probably to himself.

[McGuire86]

Used widely maybe. But this is eBay half of the stuff on there is not genuine, you do not know what is it that, the seller had only sold two and thats probably to himself.

It's pretty easy to get hold of it though, not like he's selling something rare is it?
So why would he risk all the bullshit by selling fake products ?

[DusheR]

Used widely maybe. But this is eBay half of the stuff on there is not genuine, you do not know what is it that, the seller had only sold two and thats probably to himself.

Nothing wrong with being cautious, but I think your going a bit ott. Thing about ebay is you have come back if products arnt up to scratch. Think they look the genuine article to me.

But just buy the vet grade stuff below it if your worried.

And to be fair I dont think UGL labs have the equipment to produce ampoules.

[DeanAngell1234]

I was on protein for 2 months and didn't notice much difference, then again I'm naturally stocky so to build muscle is easy for me. Personally I eat a good diet with a mixture of all my valuable nutrients (protein, carbs etc)

[Venns]

I would stay clear of steroids atleast until your 20 until you gain a few years experience. I was suprised you had already done dianabols as they are lethal on your liver and if not taken properly will destroy them quickly, I'm assuming you were using pct and organ protection products?

As for getting bigger I would reccomend a weight gainer, I used testostone boosters at 19 and have had great results but I think my levels were low in the 1st place.

Take care mate, dont jump straight onto roids as your not fully developed yet and it could give you some crappy future implications

[TwiggyMK]

Creatine will bulk you up

[saxoclarke]

i think im going to try a creatine powder for a few weeks if not im going on a cycle of test eth. and yeah the guy i got the dianobol off recomended me to a site and said before i take any get this protection stuff

[DusheR]

i think im going to try a creatine powder for a few weeks if not im going on a cycle of test eth. and yeah the guy i got the dianobol off recomended me to a site and said before i take any get this protection stuff

Well sounds like you want the quick fix. So if thats the case make sure you do it safely!

Do you know about PCT and AI's?

You know about all side effects?

- Inhibition of Natural Hormones
- Lower HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol)
- Gynocomastia (Development of breast tissue in males)
- Acne
- Progression of male patterned baldness
- Possible high blood pressure
- Growth of Excessive Body Hair
- Water Retention and Bloating
- Sterility
- Erectile dysfunction

[Brettles1986]

Why not just do it properly, surely a few weeks on something is not enough time to see if its working for you.

[Giraffe]

Well sounds like you want the quick fix. So if thats the case make sure you do it safely!

Do you know about PCT and AI's?

You know about all side effects?

- Inhibition of Natural Hormones
- Lower HDL cholesterol (good cholesterol)
- Gynocomastia (Development of breast tissue in males)
- Acne
- Progression of male patterned baldness
- Possible high blood pressure
- Growth of Excessive Body Hair
- Water Retention and Bloating
- Sterility
- Erectile dysfunction

That to me, at 17, seems to be worth not doing it for... Take stuff, look good, pull woman, can't get hard... Waste.

[saxoclarke]

suppose you lot are not worth my future for looking good while young ill just some creatine and do the good old fashion work my ass of in the gym cheers all, glad people who may have been in the same situation were here to help.

[Giraffe]

suppose you lot are not worth my future for looking good while young ill just some creatine and do the good old fashion work my ass of in the gym cheers all, glad people who may have been in the same situation were here to help.

At the end of the day fella, you're only 17, where's the rush? I've got 7 years on you, and if you worked your arse off for 7 years, you'd look good, and I don't feel in a rush yet or old or anything...

Just take your time and don't worry about all that shit of looking good yet, just enjoy life!

[DusheR]

That to me, at 17, seems to be worth not doing it for... Take stuff, look good, pull woman, can't get hard... Waste.

Yup and Ive known this to happen to many people (referred to as deca dick ha). Youve got to know what to do to counter all of the sides.

[Brettles1986]

Yup and Ive known this to happen to many people (referred to as deca dick ha). Youve got to know what to do to counter all of the sides.

This worries me, have these people proved it to you :homme:

[Gabbastard]

As someone else said, at 17 you should be wanting to shag anything that moves and some things that dont due to being so full of hormones. And youll have an appetite like a horse, so eat right and youll get big enough imo.

I know when I was 17 I piled on muscle without really doing anything like going to the gym.

[DusheR]

This worries me, have these people proved it to you :homme:

Erm no they just told me. And asked what they could do to get it back to normal. Im not a fucking doctor you know, I dont ask them to drop their pants :wacko:

[Killeybh]

Mate, your 17. you dont want to be doing prohormones or any gear at all. Your endocrine system is still developing. Even a prohormone can mess you up. Also unless you have full knowledge of the cycle and (more importantly) pct, you can end up in a right mess and loose everything youve worked for. Its not worth it at your age. Go for creatine and keep changing your workouts every month. I wouldnt advise prohormones or any gear.

[DeanAngell1234]

You're 17 mate, your body is not ready to build muscle yet, wait until you're 19-20

[r33c3]

Eat BIG!
Lift BIG!
Grow BIG!

[Hewsly]

ok soo im 17 and staring back at the gym to bulk up for summer
last year i gained 3 stone from training i was on whey protein for 2 months didnt see any effects went on animal m stak only seen affects in actual strengh not size went on dianobol gained about 1 stone and turned my testis to raisins for a while , im currently looking for something strong to hit the gym hard with, was looking at growth hormone injections but was wondering if anyone can recomend anything including gear

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