Just a thought...

[Randyransford91]

It was my grandmas funeral today (may she rest in peace). Upon following the hearse to the church I did notice a few people remove hats as a mark of respect. Even had a police biker salute as he rode pass. Just wondering if any of you guys do it on here?

[Cam]

I do :)

[ha_x3]

Not that i wear hats, but if i did then yes, as a sign of respect

[Manu]

You should always take your hat off if wearing one as a sign of respect.

[Goose]

I didn't know that rule.. I will follow it!

I never overtake hurses though, bad luck + disrespectful.

R.I.P to your Grandma!

Grandmas are the best people in the world IMO.

[GolfJay]

I'll be honest, I don't. Purely because I'd never thought of it before.

A good friend of mine decided to end his life a couple of years ago. The council closed the local skatepark (He was a popular skater there) for two days and allowed people to graffiti on his memory. Even to this day when they pressure wash the park, the graffiti in his name is never touched by them.

[holdawayt]

I'll always kill the revs too and turn my radio off.

People who wear hats - you should also remove them indoors, that's another sign of respect that people seem to have forgotten lately.

[Randyransford91]

There not just taking a hat off. There were people that crossed their hearts and stopped what they were doing and that. I never overtake them we had a van that tried and ended up splitting the convoy up with the hearse (I hope he rots in hell!).

[Manu]

we had a van that tried and ended up splitting the convoy up with the hearse (I hope he rots in hell!).

How rude

[Randyransford91]

For the sake of an extra 5min journey time? What a wanker!

[Manu]

5 minutes? more like 5 seconds, what a twat

[Goose]

I tell you something that it 100000 times worse than that..

Cunts who destroy gravestones and vandal graveyards.

Absolute tossers.

[Randyransford91]

I tell you something that it 100000 times worse than that..

Cunts who destroy gravestones and vandal graveyards.

Absolute tossers.

+1 :y:

[D--R--E--W]

Cant say I take a hat off tbh, but not really walking about alot when I see them, usually drive by them and dip the clutch to quieten the car though.

[Randyransford91]

Cant say I take a hat off tbh, but not really walking about alot when I see them, usually drive by them and dip the clutch to quieten the car though.

It's the little things like that, that count :y:

[Barry123]

This was years ago at a funeral I went to when I was about 15 I noticed people doing it as well. I've been doing it since. It's nice to think some random strangers show their respects still.

RIP Granny Randyransford91

[jw1325]

If we're out with the horses, and we pass a funeral procession it IS proper ettiquite to remove your hat and hold it to your chest and bow your head, but that was more for when they used to wear top hats / bowlers. Now we all wear proper harnassed helmets, it's correct to bow your head and touch the peak of your hat.

TBH, somem of us nod and touch our hats even if another road user has slown down to pass us. it's just respectful.

In the car, slow right down, music off, and a nod of the head.

[Randyransford91]

This was years ago at a funeral I went to when I was about 15 I noticed people doing it as well. I've been doing it since. It's nice to think some random strangers show their respects still.

RIP Granny Randyransford91

+1 :y:

It's nice to know we still have some respect today.

[GolfJay]

I'll always kill the revs too and turn my radio off.

People who wear hats - you should also remove them indoors, that's another sign of respect that people seem to have forgotten lately.

I was always told this. Why is it a sign of respect to take a hat off indoors? If I want to wear a hat I'll wear it for the whole day, not just when I'm outside. I don't see how it's disrespectful to anyone.

[Barry123]

unofficial law of the land Jay :chinese:

[Jamb0]

i can remember an old man at a bus stop doing it with my grandads funeral, that image will always be with me.

[0rang3peel]

I was in one of the cars following my grandma awhile back, a car came screaming along the side and overtook when we were in a 30 zone, I thought what an absolute tosser!

[Saxologist]

I think any motion/ gesture is a sign of respect.

If I wore a hat, i'd take it off and bow my head. Otherwise its a hand on heart and head down.

Remove a hat at the dinner table is etiquette, not sure about indoors in general.

[K17NEY]

I accidentally pulled into the middle of a funeral convoy a few weeks ago in my van, Felt so bad and pulled over straight away. Probably wouldn't of been so bad if id been in the Volvo aka, Kitney's hearse.

But if i pass one in the car i always slow right down, Music off, clutch dipped and give a nod.

[Giraffe]

I don't do anything... Just make sure I'm not being a tosser, i.e. loud music, high revs, driving fast etc, and make sure I don't split a convoy up. Other than that, I just go about business as usual...

[holdawayt]

I was always told this. Why is it a sign of respect to take a hat off indoors? If I want to wear a hat I'll wear it for the whole day, not just when I'm outside. I don't see how it's disrespectful to anyone.

It's just old fashioned manners lol. I never really notice it anymore because people don't follow it. But it used to be a big deal!

Lots of hattish bullpoop here - http://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/A045cpCivility_Hats.htm

[qrty]

i can remember an old man at a bus stop doing it with my grandads funeral, that image will always be with me.

I had this on the way to my Great Grandma's funeral! An old man was just walking down the road, he stood still, took his hat off and bowed his head until we past! Stays with me as well!

[wassy78]

Yeh if walking should always take your hat off if got one . It's been said but I do same when in my car music come off and kill the revs free wheel if I have to :( hope your ok m8

[danny-vts]

I'll be honest, I don't. Purely because I'd never thought of it before.

A good friend of mine decided to end his life a couple of years ago. The council closed the local skatepark (He was a popular skater there) for two days and allowed people to graffiti on his memory. Even to this day when they pressure wash the park, the graffiti in his name is never touched by them.

same near me, graffiti on the stand/shelter on a lads memory, been there for quite a few years.

There not just taking a hat off. There were people that crossed their hearts and stopped what they were doing and that. I never overtake them we had a van that tried and ended up splitting the convoy up with the hearse (I hope he rots in hell!).

you always get a lowlife trying it, when my uncle died there was about 20 cars following the hearse on the motorway, due to heavy traffic we was allowed to use hard shoulder, we got one car cut in front of me.
direspectful bastard.

sorry to hear about your grandma

[tingaling]

As above, always turn the radio off and lift off the revs don't even know where I got it from tbh, just know it as a sign of respect. Sorry for your loss

[Liamm]

I'm usually driving if i pass one (or stood in work carpark, I work at a care home and we all go out if one of the residents funeral car is coming past)
I lift off the revs and turn down my music when i do pass them.
I remember at my grandma's funeral, there was a group of builders working away in someones garden, they stopped what they were doing and took their hard hats off. :)

RIP to your grandma.

[GolfJay]

unofficial law of the land Jay :chinese:

It's just old fashioned manners lol. I never really notice it anymore because people don't follow it. But it used to be a big deal!

Lots of hattish bullpoop here - http://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/A045cpCivility_Hats.htm

Meant in the nicest possible way - Fuck that?

Why would I take my hat of just because I'm sat down? Why would I take it off to greet a lady that will no doubt just spit on the ground as I go by.

I don't wear a hat as a symbol of my status or reputation. I where a hat because I can't be fucked to do my hair in the morning or because it's a little bit of protection when I accidentally smash my skull against the floor skateboarding.

At a funeral? Damn right I'd take it off! Because a funeral car goes by? No. Do you want me to take my shirt and trousers off too? They're just items of clothing too.

[D--R--E--W]

Meant in the nicest possible way - Fuck that?

Why would I take my hat of just because I'm sat down? Why would I take it off to greet a lady that will no doubt just spit on the ground as I go by.

I don't wear a hat as a symbol of my status or reputation. I where a hat because I can't be fucked to do my hair in the morning or because it's a little bit of protection when I accidentally smash my skull against the floor skateboarding.

At a funeral? Damn right I'd take it off! Because a funeral car goes by? No. Do you want me to take my shirt and trousers off too? They're just items of clothing too.

Its commonly known as a mark of respect man, you're not getting asked to strip.... Its been that way for years, morals and that....

[GolfJay]

Its commonly known as a mark of respect man, you're not getting asked to strip.... Its been that way for years, morals and that....

I agree with paying respects and being respectful bit some times it's daft. A hat to me is an item of clothing. That is all. Personally I don't find removing it respectful or otherwise.

[vts-dave]

Lol saxoJay88 if you were to come into my pub with your hat on and wouldnt remove it you would be swiftly asked to leave, its just disrespectful

[CraigLovelock]

Always turn the music down when going past my uncles crematorium place and stuff like that.

No hats on my head tho!

[Granty312]

a hat is a hat, it's not like your chucking the V's or middle finger to them is it ¬¬

[GolfJay]

Lol saxoJay88 if you were to come into my pub with your hat on and wouldnt remove it you would be swiftly asked to leave, its just disrespectful

In that case if you come into my shopping centre wearing a jacket you'll be asked to leave. A hat is an item of clothing. Nothing more, nothing less.

[holdawayt]

Some people ay. And there was me thinking Jay was a well brought up individual with basic manners. Oh how wrong i was. Thank god you're not having kids.

hur hur hur

[GolfJay]

Some people ay. And there was me thinking Jay was a well brought up individual with basic manners. Oh how wrong i was. Thank god you're not having kids.

hur hur hur

Whoa, I've been brought up perfectly fine but jesus christ, it's a fucking hat, not a baloclava(sp?)

I don't ask people to leave the shopping center because they wear a hat. It's an item of clothing, that is all

[vts-dave]

In that case if you come into my shopping centre wearing a jacket you'll be asked to leave. A hat is an item of clothing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Its part of the oubs rules it is a royal british legion that funds our soldiers so its the least you could do to show some respect

[Giraffe]

I love how nobody can say why wearing a hat is disrespectful, other than it just is... People need to learn to think for themselves...

[D--R--E--W]

I love how nobody can say why wearing a hat is disrespectful, other than it just is... People need to learn to think for themselves...

Bowing your head with a hat on is just strange

[Tontsy]

i dont know why but ill remove my hat...and i never remove my hat.
if im riding, ill lift my visor and slow the fuck down.
if im driving, ill turn the player off and slow down.

[Giraffe]

Its part of the oubs rules it is a royal british legion that funds our soldiers so its the least you could do to show some respect

Exactly how is removing ones hat a sign of respect? How does the act of wearing a hat actually disrespect anyone? Its a hat. A garment. Inanimate object. Doesnt symbolise or represent anything, just material, that people put on head.

[vts-dave]

Just part of the rules of the club i didnt make them up but im not going to be a dick and say no to someone when they ask me to remove my hat, as you say end of the day its only a hat.

[Tontsy]

In that case if you come into my shopping centre wearing a jacket you'll be asked to leave. A hat is an item of clothing. Nothing more, nothing less.

i was asked to leave our shopping mall for wearing a hat.
after saying something along the lines of asking someone else to leave due to wearing clothing that covered their face (but in a not so respectful manner) i was then removed by the po po.

hurhurhur.

[Tontsy]

Just part of the rules of the club i didnt make them up but im not going to be a dick and say no to someone when they ask me to remove my hat, as you say end of the day its only a hat.

if someone says, can you take your hat off. then do it, its polite. certainly if you are in somones house, ect.
dollys mum doesnt ask me to take mine off, if she does then i will.

fuck everyone else mind :A:

[vts-dave]

if someone says, can you take your hat off. then do it, its polite. certainly if you are in somones house, ect.
dollys mum doesnt ask me to take mine off, if she does then i will.

fuck everyone else mind :A:

so if you walked into the pub my mum and dad run and they said would you please remove your whilst inside would you take it off?

[GolfJay]

so if you walked into the pub my mum and dad run and they said would you please remove your whilst inside would you take it off?

I'd ask why

[vts-dave]

you would be told that its part of the clubs rules

[GolfJay]

you would be told that its part of the clubs rules

Then I'd leave. I'm not just saying that, I really would

[vts-dave]

pretty pathetic then if you ask me, your going to leave cos they asked you to remove a hat

[GolfJay]

pretty pathetic then if you ask me, your going to leave cos they asked you to remove a hat

If you're going to ask me to leave because I wear something on my head, that to me is pathetic.

I go out every weekend with my hat. I am never asked to remove it regardless of what club I go to.

If you're willing to let my custom go due to a hat then that is your loss, not mine.

[Manu]

pretty pathetic then if you ask me, your going to leave cos they asked you to remove a hat

That's because some thugs and thieves use hats to hide their faces from CCTV. Ask any security staff.

[jw1325]

the custom of removing hats and shaking hands goes back to medival times where knights would lift their visors and show they were carrying no weapons by holding out their hands.

In time, this evolved to removing your hat and shaking hands as a way of greeting.

[Brettles1986]

That's because some thugs and thieves use hats to hide their faces from CCTV. Ask any security staff.

Or because they have a hideous hairstyle :P

[GolfJay]

That's because some thugs and thieves use hats to hide their faces from CCTV. Ask any security staff.

I said exactly this last night to my girlfriend. If I went into a club and was asked to remove my hat so I could be identified I'd do it.

If I'm say in some poxy social club with a load of coffin dodgers then I wouldn't.

Again, I don't ask people to remove their hats when they enter my shopping centre so why should I for a pub? I went out last night to Revolutions and Wahoo and wasnt asked to remove my hat.

Some people are so anal about prehistoric ways of living it is unreal. I suppose I should call all females "My Lady" that I deal with today to keep them happy too!

[Manu]

Again, I don't ask people to remove their hats when they enter my shopping centre so why should I for a pub? I went out last night to Revolutions and Wahoo and wasnt asked to remove my hat.


You own a shopping centre?

Now why would you in a pub etc... I can answer that: it is a sign of respect for the host (at a house) or the building owner (at a business). No one should EVER continue to wear an informal hat, such as a baseball cap, indoors. That just shows a lack of etiquette skills and manners.

http://askandyaboutclothes.com/Clothes%20Articles/etiquette_for_hats_and_caps.htm

it's just basic manners, I don't understand what the big deal is. No point in wearing a hat indoors, unless you're trying to hide a bad haircut or a bad looking wound.

[holdawayt]

I'm off out for a ride on my Penny Farthing, later I shall indulge in some anvil lifting with my dear fellow Wincley. I shall discuss housekeeping with the wench and wish my children merry splendour.

But seriously, I'm shocked that this is new to some people! Eating with your mouth shut and keeping your elbows off the table is still old fashioned manners. But we still abide by them. I hope.....

[Manu]

Eating with your mouth shut

that one still makes me cringe, people eating with their mouth wide open with chewed food on display being rolled around like when you're looking at a washing machine. While violently expelling air through the nostrils like a dragon.

[Giraffe]

I'm off out for a ride on my Penny Farthing, later I shall indulge in some anvil lifting with my dear fellow Wincley. I shall discuss housekeeping with the wench and wish my children merry splendour.

But seriously, I'm shocked that this is new to some people! Eating with your mouth shut and keeping your elbows off the table is still old fashioned manners. But we still abide by them. I hope.....

I understand mouth closed, nobody wants to hear you eat or see unsightly sights such as chewed food in ones mouth, but tell me, what exactly is bad about putting elbows on the table? I don't do it, but what's actually bad about it?

[holdawayt]

I think it makes you bring your head down to the fork, rather than bringing the fork up to your mouth.

Looks like you're bobbing for food lol

[Manu]

but tell me, what exactly is bad about putting elbows on the table? I don't do it, but what's actually bad about it?

that's because it makes you lock your arms on the table, then your mouth has to reach the fork instead of the fork reaching your mouth: when you eat with your elbows on the table, your upper spine is bent forward, your ribs are pushed inwards and your stomach is squeezed between the two. It isn't good for your digestion.

[Giraffe]

So what if you've finished eating and put your elbows on the table...

[holdawayt]

That's fine lol. In our house anywho

[GolfJay]

I still don't see the issue with hats. It's an item of clothing. I don't wear baseball caps, I wear more of a snowboard style beanie bat (Not the stupid "Dappy" hats)

Manu, I don't own a shopping centre but I do work security here.

Either way, wearing a hat indoors isn't disrespectful in any shape or form. And so I shall wear my hat indoors. If a pub is so up itself that they'd rather not have my custom due to something I wear then that's fine, happily go somewhere else.

[holdawayt]

It's just an old ettiquette thing Jay. You're thinking about is as a piece of clothing on top of your head. Just as important as a T-shirt or shoe.

But in certain areas it's seen as a mark of respect, just like a handshake is a mark of respect. Look at the handshake for example. Why should I reach out, touch a man's hand that I don't know and move it up and down a few times? It seems weird and is completely old fashioned. But it's just good manners. Same as the hat thing.

If you don't like it, you could spend your time growing chickens from supermarket eggs? :D

[GolfJay]

It's just an old ettiquette thing Jay. You're thinking about is as a piece of clothing on top of your head. Just as important as a T-shirt or shoe.

But in certain areas it's seen as a mark of respect, just like a handshake is a mark of respect. Look at the handshake for example. Why should I reach out, touch a man's hand that I don't know and move it up and down a few times? It seems weird and is completely old fashioned. But it's just good manners. Same as the hat thing.

If you don't like it, you could spend your time growing chickens from supermarket eggs? :D

1. You're a dick for the last comment lOlZ!

A hand shake is one thing but let's face it, this day in age a hat is a piece of clothing. Hand shakes originally came from the medieval era and it was to stop the other guy from reach for his sword.

In my view, if it isn't causing a problem then what's the issue? Some people need to modernise I think.

[holdawayt]

I'm stuck in the 1800's I'm afraid. I'm the Midlands vesion of Amish.

[jw1325]

1. You're a dick for the last comment lOlZ!

A hand shake is one thing but let's face it, this day in age a hat is a piece of clothing. Hand shakes originally came from the medieval era and it was to stop the other guy from reach for his sword.

In my view, if it isn't causing a problem then what's the issue? Some people need to modernise I think.

So did the removal of hats! it comes from knights lifting up their visor so their faces weren't obscured and could be indentified.

Handshake / removing hats are both medival traditions that still hold a very important place in the meaning of 'respect' in this country.

If you agree with handshaking, your being hypocritical not agreeing with hat removal.

[TomT]

I don't wear hats but I always turn my car radio down if I drive past etc

[Giraffe]

So did the removal of hats! it comes from knights lifting up their visor so their faces weren't obscured and could be indentified.

Handshake / removing hats are both medival traditions that still hold a very important place in the meaning of 'respect' in this country.

If you agree with handshaking, your being hypocritical not agreeing with hat removal.

Thing is, handshakes are still tactile and provide a certain level of warmth in a greeting and their meaning has definitely evolved... A hat is a hat, and has really just stayed the same forever without being questioned