hub bolt (front)

[Chez99]

i attempted lowering my car at the weekend all other bolts came out without issue till it came getting the hub bolt out, no matter what i tried it wouldnt come loose, and even when some one foot was on the brake, the disk would still spin if i put so much force on it ! :@. perhaphs i need a windy gun on it or can someone explain how they took there's off its bugging me like hell.

[Adamvts03]

Get some of this pal :y:

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[Chez99]

Haha! i dont think force was an issue, when it was in gear and foot on the brake some how the disk would still spin, not easilly but when so much force was on it kinda just would. i even snapped my bar trying to budge it

[Chez99]

bump. pleaase

[devilsadvocate]

You are supposed to loosen the wheel bolts whilst the car is still on the floor and then just undo them fully once jacked up?

[mcjacko1987]

whoever has there foot on the brake isnt pressing hard enough or your brakes are shit, also as said use more strength. im guessing your lowering the front?

[devilsadvocate]

I misread, thought you meant wheel bolts.

You mean the nut which holds the hub itself on!

Someone pressing the brake pedal, a decent breaker bar and a scaffolding pole on the end of that should do the trick.

[holdawayt]

Do you mean wheel nuts as Devilsadvocate has said, or the large hub nut? Can't see why you'd need to remove the hub. (Although I've never lowered the rear of a Saxo so it might be something to do with that?)

[mcjacko1987]

you dont need to remove the hub nut to lower the back, not sure about the front, dont even think you need to do it then.

[saxova]

lol..

Think he's on about the Driveshaft nut.

Ofc you have to take it off.. need to take strut's off to change springs, no point in pulling the shafts out..

Is the car start-able? If so, start it.. then get your mate to press the brake pedal.

[Chez99]

its the front guys, to get the whole strut off you need to take the main Hub bolt out?? i snapped my breaker bar attempting to loosen it off, i probs needed to use a longer bar. tbh my brakes aint the best but even still it was in gear and the foot on the brake. i'll try again with a different longer bar and see if that helps any.

[holdawayt]

I've never had to touch driveshafts when lowering a car. Or the hubs...


Undo topmount, undo drop links, undo the main bolt going through the shock, Job's a good'n.


Just remembered Citroen's fucked up design. Yeah you're right.

[saxova]

Lol yeah the shaft goe's through the hub.

OP start the car so it's got some braking force.. simples.

[mcjacko1987]

where the front disc has the bolts that keep it held on, one has a hole in if irc. did this to a mates 106gti other day, stick a fat screw driver threw it, and it wil turn then lock, then you can use force to undo the hubnut. oh you have prised out the lil recess bits on the hubnut?

[Chez99]

cheers guys, i'll try the above ^^ thanks!

[Chez99]

i'll try it started up and foot on the brake. also i'll give it a shot with the screw driver etc i'll let you know.

[holdawayt]

Very good point above. There will be a little locking tab that goes into a recess on the nut. If you haven't prized it out the way the nut isn't going anywhere.

[mcjacko1987]

lil image i just edited for you, dont know whos it is found the pic on google lol. but a small idea of what i mean:
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g432/mcjacko1987/photokuu.jpg

EDIT: theres only one recess, lil photoshop fail there haha

[Chez99]

great thanks, i'll give it a shot :)

[danny-vts]

it's easier if the wheel is still on the car and not jacked up, then nothing is going to spin.

if you or know anyone with a blow torch, heat the nut up slightly then try it :)

[Chez99]

it's easier if the wheel is still on the car and not jacked up, then nothing is going to spin.

if you or know anyone with a blow torch, heat the nut up slightly then try it :)

Sorry i ment like wheel hub itself not a wheel nut :y:

[danny-vts]

Sorry i ment like wheel hub itself not a wheel nut :y:

yes i know, its still easier to undo the hub nut with the wheel on the car and not jacked up , as long as you have removable centre caps

[Chez99]

nah i got vtr wheels :/

[danny-vts]

you got any other wheels spare other than vtr, if so, fit it then try what i suggested (worked for me plenty of times)
failing that, blow torch, bigger bar with scaffolding pole on end

[Chez99]

great, i'll give them all a shot, its been a big pain in the arse the last two days so hopefully these will sort them out.


you got any other wheels spare other than vtr, if so, fit it then try what i suggested (worked for me plenty of times)
failing that, blow torch, bigger bar with scaffolding pole on end


i've got the standards still ? think they'll work, im sure the hole in the middle is large enough to get the socket on the nut

[danny-vts]

doesn't matter which wheels they are as long as they're not vtr's , bolt the wheel up, drop it to floor and undo hub nut. might need someone to hold the extension bar while you pull down on the bar.
just make sure you have knocked the recess bit out of the hubnut or it wont budge one bit lol

[Chez99]

i think this is the cause why i couldnt budge it tbh, i didnt remove the recess, i wont have time to do it till the weekend as i dont finish work till after dark so. but i'll give it a go and let you know.

[holdawayt]

Invest in a headtorch / headlamp. Absolute belting bit of kit, (although you look a retard whilst wearing one) but the dark will never stop you again!

[Chez99]

I've been meaning too! but everytime im in a garage or somthing i think buy one. then i'll come away and be like shit! didnt get one hha

[Chez99]

Lol yeah the shaft goe's through the hub.

OP start the car so it's got some braking force.. simples.

I managed to get the hub nut off with the advice above, got the whole strut off etc came to getting the coil/spring off. little torx or allen key bit at the top was just spinning when i was turning and i had nothing to hold the bolt in place so the whole shock was just spinning. i basically dont have the kit to do it so im just taking it to a garage and there going to do the back aswell for nice price so :) thanks all!

[mcjacko1987]

Glad to hear you sorted it

[citroen_saxo_vtr]

CBA to read the hole thread but i had this problem with mine, easiest way is to just bung a steel wheel on drop it to the floor handbrake on and a breaker bar with a 4ft scaffolding bar and jobs a goodun. You could get a scaffolding bar and do etc and start the car and put it in gear and do it that way if its really tight but its dangerous lol i have know people to do it and its pulled the car off the stands...........